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One of these days, the Turks will show him the door.
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I am not quite confident, he jailed half and brainwashed the other half.
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for now nothing
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his dream project Is about to kickstart
Turkey, Azerbaijan inaugurate gas pipeline project
TANAP to supply 16 billion cubic meters of Azeri natural gas to Turkey, Europe, says President Erdogan - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
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Turkish F-16 warplane shoots down Armenian SU-25 fighter jet, Defense Ministry in Yerevan claims
Turkish F-16 warplane shoots down Armenian SU-25 fighter jet, Defense Ministry in Yerevan claims
A Turkish F-16 fighter has shot down an Armenian Air Force Su-25, Yerevan has announced. It comes three days after a military conflict between Armenia and neighboring Azerbaijan broke out over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.
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Everything We Know About The Fighting That Has Erupted Between Armenia And Azerbaijan
Renewed fighting over a long-standing territorial dispute could have broader implications, with Russia and Turkey supporting the opposing sides.
Everything We Know About The Fighting That Has Erupted Between Armenia And Azerbaijan
Renewed fighting over a long-standing territorial dispute could have broader implications, with Russia and Turkey supporting the opposing sides.
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Turkish F-16 warplane shoots down Armenian SU-25 fighter jet, Defense Ministry in Yerevan claims
Turkish F-16 warplane shoots down Armenian SU-25 fighter jet, Defense Ministry in Yerevan claims
A Turkish F-16 fighter has shot down an Armenian Air Force Su-25, Yerevan has announced. It comes three days after a military conflict between Armenia and neighboring Azerbaijan broke out over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.www.rt.com
Turkey has officially denied this, but one thing for sure this is no longer a limited skirmish, looking more like war of attrition contained to that disputed territory.
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Armenia Releases Images Of Su-25 Wreckage. Continues To Claim It Was Shot Down by Turkish F-16
September 30, 2020Tom Demerly
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Armenians Allege Su-25 Was Downed at Long Range by Turkish Viper. Turkey Denies.
Multiple news outlets, many in proximity to the conflict, started reporting that, “A Su-25 jet of the Armenian Air Force was shot down by a Turkish F-16 fighter in the airspace of the Republic of Armenia” on Sept. 29, 2020. Reports in Russian media claimed the F-16 was “60 kilometers inside Azerbaijan’s air space” when the intercept took place.
Public Radio of Armenia reported that Press Secretary of the Armenian Ministry of Defense, Shushan Stepanyan, confirmed that the Su-25 was shot down. The single crewmember was killed in the incident.
Stepanyan also Tweeted that, “Today, at around 10:30 am, F-16 fighters of the Turkish Air Force took off from the “Ganja” airport from the Republic of Azerbaijan and ensured the delivery of bombing and missile strikes against settlements and ground units of the Armenian Armed Forces”.
According to Greek news outlets and social media accounts, “Turkish F-16 jets were deployed to Ganja Airbase in July/August under the pretext of joint exercises, but remained there. A week ago, they were seen flying over Ganja city by locals.” At the time of writing it is still not clear whether there are Turkish F-16s still deployed to Azerbaijan or not.
Reminder that Turkish F-16 jets were deployed to Ganja AB, Azerbaijan in July/ August under the pretext of joint exercises, but remained there. A week ago they were seen flying over Ganja city by locals (pic 3). pic.twitter.com/TEsbfwzswu
On Sept. 30, the Armenian Government also released some images of the crash site of the downed Su-25:
While the images may indeed show what remains of a Frogfoot, details are not enough to confirm the downing.
Turkish officials have rejected the accusation, stating that the claim an F-16 was involved in the incident is false.
Someone said that the Su-25 was indeed shot down, but by an Azerbaijanis MiG-29 Fulcrum and not by a Turkish Air Force F-16:
As of late on Monday, September 28 in the region, Armenian media outlets claimed 49 remotely piloted aircraft (RPAs), 4 helicopters, 80 armored vehicles, 1 aircraft and 82 un-armored motor vehicles belonging to the Azerbaijanis have been destroyed by the Armenian military during the clashes in the disputed Nagorno-Karabah region.
The involvement of Turkey in support of the Republic of Azerbaijan in their clash with Armenia would signal additional escalation in the conflict and if reports of Turkish involvement in the escalating conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan are accurate, there could be additional involvement from other countries, including Russia. Three days ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed “serious concern about the renewal of large-scale military conflict”. Putin went on to call for a halt to hostilities in a phone call with Nikol Pashinyan, Prime Minister of Armenia, according to an official statement from Russia’s Kremlin.
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Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict: Azerbaijan president vows to fight on
Published 11 minutes agoArmenia's defence ministry has published photos of an SU-25 jet it claims was shot down by a Turkish warplane
Azerbaijan's president has vowed to fight on until Armenian forces leave disputed territory, on the fourth day of fierce fighting in the region.
"We only have one condition: Armenian armed forces must unconditionally, fully, and immediately leave our lands," President Ilham Aliyev said.
More than 100 deaths have been reported in the heaviest fighting in years over the Nagorno-Karabakh region.
Officially part of Azerbaijan, it is governed by ethnic Armenians.
The two former Soviet republics fought a war in 1988-1994 over the territory. Although Armenia backs the self-declared republic it has never officially recognised it.
It is unclear what caused the renewed fighting, which is the heaviest since the 1994 ceasefire, and there are growing fears international powers could be dragged into the conflict.
On Wednesday French President Emmanuel Macron said he was "extremely concerned by the warlike messages" coming from Turkey, a staunch ally of Azerbaijan.
Turkey says it is "fully ready" to help Azerbaijan recover the enclave.
Meanwhile, Armenia's defence ministry released a picture of an Armenian SU-25 jet it said had been shot down by a Turkish F-16 on Tuesday. Turkey has rejected the allegation as "cheap propaganda" and Azerbaijan says Armenia is lying about the cause.
And one fighter has told BBC Arabic he was recruited in northern Syria last week and sent via Turkey to fight in the conflict. Ilnur Cevik, an adviser to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, dismissed the report as "completely unfounded".
What's happening on the ground?
Dozens of soldiers and some civilians have died since fighting broke out on Sunday.Both sides accused the other of shelling across the so-called Line of Control, separating forces in Nagorno-Karabakh.
On Wednesday, Azerbaijan published footage of what it said was the destruction of two "enemy" tanks and said an Armenian battalion had fled the area around Tonashen.
Armenian reports said three civilians had been killed in an Azerbaijani air attack on the town of Martakert in Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenian state news agency Armenpress said seven civilians and 80 service personnel had been killed since the fighting began.
Azerbaijan's prosecutor general announced on Wednesday that 14 civilians had been killed and 46 injured.
BBC Arabic, meanwhile, has spoken to one man who was recruited in northern Syria "to guard military points" on Azerbaijan's borders for $2,000 (£1,550).
Abdullah - not his real name - said he was flown to Azerbaijan via Istanbul with other Syrian men. They received no training, but were sent to Nagorno-Karabakh "wearing Azerbaijani uniforms" when fighting broke out.
"The car stopped and we were surprised to find ourselves on the front line," he said. "Then the bombing began, people were crying in fear and wanted to go home."
President Erdogan's adviser Ilnur Cervik called the accusation "a kind of disinformation campaign".
"We are not recruiting anyone. Where is the proof that we're recruiting these people along with the Syrian opposition sending them Azerbaijan [sic]? This is completely false," he said.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reports that about 320 Syrian mercenaries have been transported to Azerbaijan by Turkish security companies. But they add that Armenian-born fighters in Syria have also been transported to Armenia to join the fight.
'This could lead to a wider war'
Analysis by Laurence Broers, South Caucasus expert at Chatham HousePrevious escalations between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces have been contained after a few days - but the intensity of the current fighting indicates that this may not be possible this time.
Populated areas within the contested territory of Nagorno-Karabakh have been hit by missile strikes and bombardments for the first time since the 1990s. Civilian targets in Armenia and in Azerbaijan have also been hit.
Both sides appear to be digging in for a longer conflict. Azerbaijan has rejected renewed negotiations with Armenia, and unlike in previous escalations it has a greater degree of Turkish support to count on.
The danger is that a longer, protracted conflict will see increased involvement by outside powers, risking a wider regional war.
Read the full analysis here
What's the international situation?
On Wednesday French President Macron warned Turkey about "warlike comments... which essentially remove any inhibitions from Azerbaijan in what would be a reconquest of Nagorno-Karabakh. That we will not accept."Turkey is an ally of Azerbaijan, and even closed its border with Armenia in 1993 in solidarity over the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute.
Mr Macron meanwhile appeared to promise greater support to Armenia in the coming days: "I say to Armenia and to the Armenians, France will play its role."
Hundreds of thousands of French citizens are of Armenian descent. France is also a chair of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Minsk Group, created in 1992 to resolve the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
Mr Macron made the comments on a trip to the Baltic states
In recent weeks Nato allies France and Turkey have been on opposite sides in a dispute over energy claims in the Eastern Mediterranean. They have also been at odds over the power struggle in Libya.
Turkey has said it will do "what is necessary" to back Azerbaijan, and Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu accused the French president of, in effect, supporting occupation.
But there has been international concern that Turkey may back a bigger military operation. Mr Cavusoglu has already said Turkey will support Azerbaijan "both on the field and at the negotiation table" and a presidential aide has spoken of Turkey's commitment "to helping Azerbaijan take back its occupied lands".
Mr Macron said he would speak to Russian President Vladimir Putin later on Wednesday about the conflict.
Russia is part of a military alliance with Armenia, and has a military base in the country. However, it is also close to Azerbaijan's rulers, and has called for an immediate ceasefire, offering to mediate in the conflict.
On Wednesday, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said he had not yet discussed Russia's possible involvement in the conflict, given their alliance. "Armenia's armed forces are capable of defending the country's security," he told reporters.
Nagorno-Karabakh - key facts
- A mountainous region of about 4,400 sq km (1,700 sq miles)
- Traditionally inhabited by Christian Armenians and Muslim Turks
- In Soviet times, it became an autonomous region within the republic of Azerbaijan
- Internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan, but majority of population is ethnic Armenian
- Self-proclaimed authorities are not recognised by any UN member, including Armenia
- An estimated one million people displaced by war in 1988-94, and about 30,000 killed
- Separatist forces captured some extra territory around the enclave in Azerbaijan
- Stalemate has largely prevailed since a 1994 ceasefire
- Turkey openly supports Azerbaijan
- Russia has a military base in Armenia
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Those videos of tanks hit and brewing up, are very sccary
I feel sorry for their crews.
I saw similar videos on Al Jazeera
But it never said whose tanks they were.
Does anyone have any more info on these two tank's destruction?
I feel sorry for their crews.
I saw similar videos on Al Jazeera
But it never said whose tanks they were.
Does anyone have any more info on these two tank's destruction?
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Oh boy, so the war is spreading to the capitals now, hopefully this doesn't devolve into prolonged war but it looks like it will.
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Crews might be fine but tanks could be disabled. It is war though and the troops are gonna die. Lots of grad rocket artillery strikes too on each side. They are causing equal damage to each other it seems. They are more equally matched than I had thought.
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Interesting, Pakistan and Israel converging on a common position on this conflict. While Iran and Russia standing on other side of the ring.