Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang

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Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang
Dec 17, 2015




Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang, crew eject safely.

A People’s Liberation Army Naval Air Force (PLANAF) from the 4th Division, 12th Air Regiment, crashed this evening in Zeguo town, Taizhou city, Zhejiang Province. Both pilots ejected safely.

Postings on Chinese Internet suggests the aircraft’s Russian AL-31F engine failed in mid-air.

The Chengdu J-10 ( Known in the West as the “Vigorous Dragon“, or by the NATO Reporting Name Firebird) is a lightweight multirole fighter aircraft capable of all-weather operation, configured with a delta wing and canard design, with fly-by-wire flight controls, and produced by the People’s Republic of China’s Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF).
Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang | Defence blog

 

[Lieutenant]

Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang
Dec 17, 2015




Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang, crew eject safely.

A People’s Liberation Army Naval Air Force (PLANAF) from the 4th Division, 12th Air Regiment, crashed this evening in Zeguo town, Taizhou city, Zhejiang Province. Both pilots ejected safely.

Postings on Chinese Internet suggests the aircraft’s Russian AL-31F engine failed in mid-air.

The Chengdu J-10 ( Known in the West as the “Vigorous Dragon“, or by the NATO Reporting Name Firebird) is a lightweight multirole fighter aircraft capable of all-weather operation, configured with a delta wing and canard design, with fly-by-wire flight controls, and produced by the People’s Republic of China’s Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF).
Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft crashed in Zhejiang | Defence blog

Was it a malfunction issue?

 

[vash]

Actually the details of the crush was never released by the military. In fact, they did not even mention the model of the jet. J-10 was just a speculation.

One thing it proves, the Chinese air force has upped the game of night training. They used to never train at night, but that was already history. They are getting more capable every year by improve both the hardware and training.

On a side note, the place of the crush is in a military region that faces not only Taiwan strait, but also disputed islands with Japan.

 

[silentwarfare]

In other news, the People's Republic of China are claiming that Japan is responsible for the construction and malfunction of their military planes, and denies training at night, any wrong doing, or that those islands are in fact not theirs at all.

They may train at night, but they're not like the US or Russia who knows what they are doing when they do.

 

[vash]

In other news, the People's Republic of China are claiming that Japan is responsible for the construction and malfunction of their military planes, and denies training at night, any wrong doing, or that those islands are in fact not theirs at all.

They may train at night, but they're not like the US or Russia who knows what they are doing when they do.

Did you just make it up? <---- Yes, I think so.
I'd like to see the source of your "other news".

China never made such claim.
First, the government had reported the crush took place at night, but withhold information on the model of the plane, and the cause of the crush.

So your "deny" part was inaccurate.

Second, if it was a J-10, it is manufactured in China. If it was a J-11, it was assembled in China. If it was a Su-27 or Su-30, they were imported from Russia. Everyone knows it, and they know everyone know it. Why the heck would they say Japan made their jets?

So your second point was also not true.


Third, the disputed islands Diaoyu/Senkuka are 170km off Taiwan, 310km off mainland China, 440km from the nearest habiable island of Okinawa. Japanese mainland is on the opposite side of Okinawa another 1,000 miles up north. Well, I just Googled the distances. On the top of the fact, Okinawa was Kingdom of Ryukyu until Japan invaded and renamed them to Okinawa in 1879. So the ownership of these islands are indeed in question. How can China was not able to owns something so close to them (Taiwan was a part of China in 1879 under Qing Empire, as well as hundreds years before it), while Japan was owning the islands on the other side of another (Ryukyu) kingdom?

We can all be biased based on misinformation, but at least please do not create your own misinformation.

 

[remnant]

Part of the causes of these crashes is the obsession of the military defense industry's obsession with hi-tech warplanes which which would inevitably malfunction judging by their complex avionics and the fast track programs used to induct pilots. It is the same case with the ill fated Russian submarine the Irkursk which rank during launch. Sophistication should not take precedence over over functionality.

 

[vash]

Part of the causes of these crashes is the obsession of the military defense industry's obsession with hi-tech warplanes which which would inevitably malfunction judging by their complex avionics and the fast track programs used to induct pilots. It is the same case with the ill fated Russian submarine the Irkursk which rank during launch. Sophistication should not take precedence over over functionality.

With or without details from the official statement, we can only speculate what has happened. You can't really trust what the governments say.

Anyway, the cause of the crush could be a malfunction in the engine. J-10 uses imported Russian engines, at least for the early batches. The later batches were said to use China's own engines reverse engineered from the Russian engines, which is even worse in performance and reliability. It also can be so many different causes... we can only guess.