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JF17 -Blk3 CHENGDU REPORTEDLY ACHIEVES MILESTONE

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Will this be incorporated into the nose? Not like it has anymore space to waste on its wings.
That’s my question. Rumours suggested nose hp
 

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Pakistan used the Russian card to press for more f-16 from the US. I think, EF, Dassault Rafale would be great alternatives.

In 2018 only Pakistan received the following:


China
. . Red Arrow-8 Anti-tank missile 1989 1990-2018 (24350) Pakistani designation Baktar Shikan
. . QW-1 Vanguard Portable SAM (1993) 1994-2018 (2250) Pakistani designation Anza-2
(530) Type-90-2M/MBT-2000 Tank (1998) 2001-2018 (340) Al-Khalid and Al-Khalid-I (or Al-Khalid-1) versions
(50) JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 FGA aircraft (2011) 2015-2018 (50) JF-17 Block-2 version
(50) JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 FGA aircraft (2012) JF-17 Block-3 version; delivery planned from 2020
2 Azmat Corvette (2013) 2017 1 Delivery planned 2017-218
2 CSTC-1500 OPV 2015 2018 1 Designation uncertain (reported as '1500t patrol vessel' from Chinese company CSTC); for coast guard; incl 1 produced in Pakistan; Pakistani designation Hingol; delivery probably planned 2018-2019/2020
4 CSTC-600 OPV 2015 2016-2018 (4) Designation uncertain (reported as '600t patrol vessel' from Chinese company CSTC); for coast guard; incl 2 produced in Pakistan; Pakistani designation Hingol
8 Type-041/Yuan Submarine (2015) Probably S-20 version; incl 4 produced in Pakistan; delivery 2022-2028
JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 FGA aircraft (2016) 2018 (13) JF-17 Block-2 version; incl JF-17B version; produced in Pakistan
(600) PL-12/SD-10 BVRAAM (2006) 2010-2018 (425) For JF-17 and possibly modernized Mirage-3/5 combat aircraft
(1000) PL-5E SRAAM (2006) 2009-2018 (860) For JF-17 combat aircraft; PL-5E-II version
(100) C-802/CSS-N-8 Anti-ship missile (2008) 2012-2018 (70) For JF-17 combat aircraft
(750) LS-3 Guided bomb (2008) 2010-2018 (650) For JF-17 combat aircraft
(1000) LS-6-500 Guided bomb (2008) 2010-2017 (625) For JF-17 combat aircraft
(750) LT-2 Guided bomb (2008) 2010-2018 (625) For JF-17 combat aircraft
(150) WMD-7 Aircraft EO system (2008) 2009-2018 (95) For JF-17 combat aircraft
(30) C-802/CSS-N-8 Anti-ship missile (2013) 2017 (15) For Azmat FAC
(80) C-802/CSS-N-8 Anti-ship missile (2015) For 6 Type-041 (S-20) submarines
(100) SET-65 Yenot-2 ASW torpedo (2015) Yu-3 version; for Type-041 submarines
(100) Yu-4 533mm AS torpedo (2015) For 6 Type-041 submarines
(4) Type-054A/Jiangkai-2 Frigate (2017) Option on 2 more

France

R: Pakistan 2 MESMA AIP engine 2007 For modernization of 2 Agosta-90B submarines

Germany

R: Pakistan 8 MTU-595 Diesel engine (2018) For 4 MilGem frigates from Turkey

Italy

R: Pakistan 245 M-109A1 155mm Self-propelled gun 2015 2017-2018 (120) Second-hand; M-109L version
(79) Puma APV 2015 2018 79 Second-hand; 6X6 version
() AW139 Helicopter 2017 2016-2017 3
(15) AW139 Helicopter 2017 2017-2018 (15)
4 Super Rapid 76mm Naval gun (2018) For 4 MilGem frigates from Turkey

Netherlands

R: Pakistan 2 OPV-1800 OPV 2017 From Romanian production line

Russia

R: Pakistan (220) RD-33 Turbofan (2004) 2007-2018 (157) RD-93 version; for JF-17 combat aircraft from China
4 Mi-35M Combat helicopter 2015 2018 4 Possibly second-hand Mi-24 rebuilt to Mi-35M before delivery

Sweden

R: Pakistan . . RBS-70 Portable SAM (1985) 1988-2018 (1475) Probably incl RBS-70 Mk-3 version; produced in Pakistan
4 Saab-2000 Transport aircraft 2016 2016-2018 4 Second-hand

Turkey

R: Pakistan 1 Moawin Oiler 2013 2018 1 $80 m deal; produced in Pakistan; Pakistani designation Moawin
4 MilGem Frigate 2018 Incl 2 produced in Pakistan; delivery planned 2023-2025
16 ASELPOD Aircraft EO system 2017 2018 (16) $25 m deal; for JF-17 combat aircraft
30 A-129C Mangusta Combat helicopter 2018 $1.5 b deal; T-129 version; delivery planned by 2022/2023

Ukraine

R: Pakistan 110 6TD Diesel engine 2013 2014-2018 (90) $50 m deal; for Al-Khalid (Type-90-2 or MBT-2000) tanks from China and Al-Khalid ABL produced in Pakistan; incl spare engines
200 6TD Diesel engine 2016 For Al-Khalid (Type-90-2M or MBT-2000) tanks from China and Al-Khalid ABL produced in Pakistan; incl spare engines

United Kingdom

R: Pakistan 1 Sea King HAR-3 Transport helicopter 2016 2018 1 Second-hand; Sea king HAR-3A version
2 Seaspray MP aircraft radar (2016) 2018 (1) Seaspray-7300 version; for use on ATR-72 maritime patrol aircraft
4 Sea King/Commando Transport helicopter 2017 2017-2018 4 Second-hand (2 more delivered for spare parts); Commando HC-4+ version

United States

R: Pakistan 2 King Air-350 ISR AGS aircraft (2011) 2013-2018 (2) King Air-350 ISR version; aid
(1000) AGM-114K HELLFIRE Anti-tank missile 2015 For AH-1Z combat helicopters
12 AH-1Z Viper Combat helicopter 2015 Delivery delayed after USA suspends military aid for Pakistan in 2018
(30) MaxxPro APC 2016 2018 (10) Second-hand; ARV version
4 LM-2500 Gas turbine (2018) For 4 MilGem frigates from Turkey
Brought this here to this thread as my question is relevant here. You quoted 220 RD-33 out of which 157 RD-93 which leaves 63 RD-33. But what for? Are we planning to upgrade engine in near future?
 

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That’s my question. Rumours suggested nose hp
Still too early to conclusively say anything.
Lets wait and see.
More details will be revealed hopefully in the coming month.
More significant in my opinion is the revelation by the respected PDF member @messiach, that Block-3 would be having fly-by-optics rather than fly-by-wire.
 

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I think this is some sort of a optical device.
 

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@Signalian @AliYusuf @Khafee @HRK interestingly, this is not a chin mounted IRST pod of which rumours have been floating since ages especially quwa. If chin hp isn’t implemented, would that be a setback for block 3 as it will limit the operational built-in capabilities as chin hp was supposed to be dedicated for IRST?
PT-6 in terms of air frame is blk-I ..... but now it support upgraded avionics, below is latest pic with LKF601E air cool radar
LKF601E.jpg

source: LKJ86 ....
 

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PT-6 in terms of air frame is blk-I ..... but now it support upgraded avionics, below is latest pic with LKF601E air cool radar
View attachment 11725
source: LKJ86 ....
This is BIG!!!!! I always thought that B1 and B2 thunders might get upgraded to air cooled AESA LKF601E while B3 and Dual seaters will start afresh with KLJ7A. I don’t think KLJ-7A could fit on B1 & 2
 

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I don’t think KLJ-7A could fit on B1 & 2
Issue is about the liquid cooling plumbing accessories and power access points that are not present in Block 1 & 2 and would incur a modification cost that is not insignificant. The LKF601E is a more or less a replaces existing radars and plug-in with minimal modification.
 

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Issue is about the liquid cooling plumbing accessories and power access points that are not present in Block 1 & 2 and would incur a modification cost that is not insignificant. The LKF601E is a more or less a replaces existing radars and plug-in with minimal modification.
Exactly why i believe
 

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So jF-17 B has been delivered to customers like Myanmar and Nigeria!

@Mastankhan you were right sales of thunder were hampered due to missing B variant.
 
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For A2A role at least block 2 should be upgraded with AESA radar and IRST even if in poded form. if their is a possibility then we should also arm them with 2 PL-15 and 2 PL-10 each to make them relevant in coming high threat situation. Further if some one can guide if all F7 s have been retired or not, if not how many JF17s are required to retire them.
 
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