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Only 2 managed to get through. Where are the rest?
I have no idea - I just read that it was 7. Official Saudi position is that there were only 2 drones, or that the rest were shot down?

Even for 2 primitive drones to get through 800km of Saudi territory to near Riyadh and then release their munitions is very severe, hence I'm curious about Saudi radar coverage and potential SHORAD deficiencies.
 

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I have no idea - I just read that it was 7. Official Saudi position is that there were only 2 drones, or that the rest were shot down?

Even for 2 primitive drones to get through 800km of Saudi territory to near Riyadh and then release their munitions is very severe, hence I'm curious about Saudi radar coverage and potential SHORAD deficiencies.
Not primitive, pretty sophisticated bomb drones. They were suicide drones, who were the payload themselves. I posted a pic on the forum somewhere.
 

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Not primitive, pretty sophisticated bomb drones. They were suicide drones, who were the payload themselves. I posted a pic on the forum somewhere.
Qasef 1 are loitering munitions yes, but they are very small and primitive drones based on Ababil drones - which were Iran's very first drones developed in the 1980s! [I don't want to divert this topic so I will make a new thread]

Probably the size of them was the issue combined with KSA south regions being huge and sparsely populated, but for sure lack of SHORADs is a big problem for KSA in my opinion.
 

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Qasef 1 are loitering munitions yes, but they are very small and primitive drones based on Ababil drones - which were Iran's very first drones developed in the 1980s! [I don't want to divert this topic so I will make a new thread]

Probably the size of them was the issue combined with KSA south regions being huge and sparsely populated, but for sure lack of SHORADs is a big problem for KSA in my opinion.
 

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I have heard only of two drones, 7 seems to be an exaggerated number. We still have no idea about the drones, from when the launch was. It is hard to escape RSAD radars.
 

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I have heard only of two drones, 7 seems to be an exaggerated number. We still have no idea about the drones, from when the launch was. It is hard to escape RSAD radars.
I think it is very possible that Saudi radars detected them (Saudi radar coverage is pretty good and indeed covers all of KSA), but the fact they got through suggests two things to me - (i) lack of effective SHORADs meant KSA could not shoot them down, but this doesn't explain (ii) if radars detected them, they could pass the info to Saudi air force to call jets/helis to shoot them down 'manually' (although in 2016 Israel tried this unsuccessfully with 2 patriot missiles + f-16 failed interception: Israel unsuccessfully tries to intercept drone that breached its airspace, so perhaps it is plausible).
 

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I think it is very possible that Saudi radars detected them (Saudi radar coverage is pretty good and indeed covers all of KSA), but the fact they got through suggests two things to me - (i) lack of effective SHORADs meant KSA could not shoot them down, but this doesn't explain (ii) if radars detected them, they could pass the info to Saudi air force to call jets/helis to shoot them down 'manually' (although in 2016 Israel tried this unsuccessfully with 2 patriot missiles + f-16 failed interception: Israel unsuccessfully tries to intercept drone that breached its airspace, so perhaps it is plausible).
It could be. Although I still don't believe the drones travelled 800 km all the way to the heart of Saudi Arabia. I still think they were launched from inside the country from a place close to ARAMCO oil facilities.

Saudi defense forces do operate many SHORADs and I expect such sensitive areas to be secured by SHORADs.
 

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It could be. Although I still don't believe the drones travelled 800 km all the way to the heart of Saudi Arabia. I still think they were launched from inside the country from a place close to ARAMCO oil facilities.

Saudi defense forces do operate many SHORADs and I expect such sensitive areas to be secured by SHORADs.
Saudi internal defence is pretty strong, how could Houthis launch it from inside KSA (near the border regions inside KSA maybe, but beyond that I don't know about)?

I don't know of Saudi SHORADs, to my knowledge KSA does not have much high-level SHORAD systems, only the French Crotale from the '70s.
 

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Saudi internal defence is pretty strong, how could Houthis launch it from inside KSA (near the border regions inside KSA maybe, but beyond that I don't know about)?

I don't know of Saudi SHORADs, to my knowledge KSA does not have much high-level SHORAD systems, only the French Crotale from the '70s.
You think the Houthies has no sleeping cells inside Saudi? We have millions Yemeni living in the country. It only takes a group of four people to assemble and launch the drones.

The Crotale has gone through recent upgrade. I don't think the system is outdated. Saudi Arabia operates others air defense systems too. Forget about shooting down the drones, the question is how did the drones escape radar detection. My answer is that the drones were launched from inside.
 

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Saudi internal defence is pretty strong, how could Houthis launch it from inside KSA (near the border regions inside KSA maybe, but beyond that I don't know about)?

I don't know of Saudi SHORADs, to my knowledge KSA does not have much high-level SHORAD systems, only the French Crotale from the '70s.
Croatle Shahine Mk3- the latest version.
 

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You think the Houthies has no sleeping cells inside Saudi? We have millions Yemeni living in the country. It only takes a group of four people to assemble and launch the drones.

The Crotale has gone through recent upgrade. I don't think the system is outdated. Saudi Arabia operates others air defense systems too. Forget about shooting down the drones, the question is how did the drones escape radar detection. My answer is that the drones were launched from inside.
I would not think the Houthis can launch a drone from inside KSA, even though it is quite a small and primitive drone, it is still quite advanced for the standards of non-state-actors (especially if it a loitering munition variant).

It is possible that the drone evaded radar, Israeli loitering munitions in Syria have been a nightmare for Syrian AD (which is relatively advanced and much more concentrated than in KSA).

Hopefully we find more news about this soon.

About SHORADs and Crotale, I can only find online that Saudi ordered the R460 SICA (Shahine) in the '90s, but nothing about the latest Mk.3 - is there a source I can read for the Mk.3? Thanks
 

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I would not think the Houthis can launch a drone from inside KSA, even though it is quite a small and primitive drone, it is still quite advanced for the standards of non-state-actors (especially if it a loitering munition variant).

It is possible that the drone evaded radar, Israeli loitering munitions in Syria have been a nightmare for Syrian AD (which is relatively advanced and much more concentrated than in KSA).

Hopefully we find more news about this soon.

About SHORADs and Crotale, I can only find online that Saudi ordered the R460 SICA (Shahine) in the '90s, but nothing about the latest Mk.3 - is there a source I can read for the Mk.3? Thanks
Try looking for it in french media outlets. It should be there.
 

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