Submarines and their types

[GRANNY001]

As we say — InshaAllah (God Willing)

I think we'll need perhaps a little more than Gods help Gripen9. Perhaps a lot of luck and a more perceptive government.

 

[space cadet]

I would think that Canada and Australia should have nuke boats

 

[GRANNY001]

I would think that Canada and Australia should have nuke boats

It makes total sense space cadet, however the Canadian government has been around this "track" before and it did not go well, but one can always hope. Thanks for your support though.

 

[Gripen9]

I think we'll need perhaps a little more than Gods help Gripen9. Perhaps a lot of luck and a more perceptive government.

Well Canada is US's largest trading partner and a staunch ally. If they are willing to now allow nuclear technology proliferation i-e access to it for Austrailia, why not Canada. Provided Canada signs on to US's foreign policy pivot vis a viz China

 

[GRANNY001]

Well Canada is US's largest trading partner and a staunch ally. If they are willing to now allow nuclear technology proliferation i-e access to it for Austrailia, why not Canada. Provided Canada signs on to US's foreign policy pivot vis a viz China

Agree Gripen9

 

[GRANNY001]

The “Kangaroo” Has Placated The “Maple Leaf”-Canadas Influence Has Waned As A Global Middle Power

According to our “newly minted” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Canada seems to be immediately down-playing the importance of the “Three-Eyes” AUKUS nuclear technology transfer deal between the United States, Australia and United Kingdom as merely a way for the US to sell nuclear submarines to Australia and does not see any significant implications for Canada and dismisses the importance of this deal and the serious long-term ramifications for Canada as a “Five-Eyes” member. The following National Post (Canada) article by Andrew Richter (Associate Professor Of Political Science at The University Of Windsor) conveys a much different outcome for Canada and our relationships with our most valued allies, especially the United States. A most interesting article and very much worthwhile a read for forum members.

Andrew Richter: Under the Liberals, Canada has effectively disappeared as an international actor

 

[space cadet]

The “Kangaroo” Has Placated The “Maple Leaf”-Canadas Influence Has Waned As A Global Middle Power

According to our “newly minted” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Canada seems to be immediately down-playing the importance of the “Three-Eyes” AUKUS nuclear technology transfer deal between the United States, Australia and United Kingdom as merely a way for the US to sell nuclear submarines to Australia and does not see any significant implications for Canada and dismisses the importance of this deal and the serious long-term ramifications for Canada as a “Five-Eyes” member. The following National Post (Canada) article by Andrew Richter (Associate Professor Of Political Science at The University Of Windsor) conveys a much different outcome for Canada and our relationships with our most valued allies, especially the United States. A most interesting article and very much worthwhile a read for forum members.

Andrew Richter: Under the Liberals, Canada has effectively disappeared as an international actor

isn't that all well known in Canada?

 

[GRANNY001]

isn't that all well known in Canada?

Hello Space Cadet. It may be known by others but not well known here in Canada. We have always thought of ourselves as the USAs staunchest ally but when Biden said that Australia was their best ally, it took most people off-guard.

 

[space cadet]

Hello Space Cadet. It may be known by others but not well known here in Canada. We have always thought of ourselves as the USAs staunchest ally but when Biden said that Australia was their best ally, it took most people off-guard.

IN the US we don't think of Canada as an ally, they are just someone we must protect, nothing against Canada, but that is the logic of today.

 

[GRANNY001]

IN the US we don't think of Canada as an ally, they are just someone we must protect, nothing against Canada, but that is the logic of today.

You might want to rethink that statement space cadet at least from a US military perspective. What state are you from anyway?

 

[space cadet]

You might want to rethink that statement space cadet at least from a US military perspective. What state are you from anyway?

I wasn't trying to offend, if that is how it came off. If you look at Europe and the US commitment there, and others lack of commitment, you might understand where we might feel that way, other nations count on the US to defend them and spend wildly on things that are not in there defense, and that's because they expect the US to defend them. For instance, if someone was dumb enough to attack Canada who would be the first to send an armored division there to defend it, the US

 

[GRANNY001]

I wasn't trying to offend, if that is how it came off. If you look at Europe and the US commitment there, and others lack of commitment, you might understand where we might feel that way, other nations count on the US to defend them and spend wildly on things that are not in there defense, and that's because they expect the US to defend them. For instance, if someone was dumb enough to attack Canada who would be the first to send an armored division there to defend it, the US

No offence taken space cadet but Canada is a great ally with the US and we have a excellent relationship with the US WRT the defence of North America (NORAD) and our Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic regions. It is a shared mutual defence relationship that Canada takes very seriously, but it is also good to know that Canada has your back as well even if we don't have the kind of Defence budget that the US can muster.

 

[GRANNY001]

Here is an interesting opinion video piece from the National Post (Canada) by Sabrina Maddeaux on how Canada reacted to the AUKUS "three eyes" nuclear technology transfer deal:

National Post

Read opinions, editorials and columns. We feature a variety of viewpoints and trending topics to keep you informed about important issues.

nationalpost.com

 

[Gripen9]

@GRANNY001 your thoughts?

Why Australia’s new $100 billion subs could be useless

The $100 billion bill faces inevitable, massive blowouts. The 20-year delivery date is optimistic, and likely too late. Now a top academic has dropped a bomb on Australia’s nuclear submarine dreams – labelling them dinosaurs of the deep.

www.news.com.au

 

[GRANNY001]

Here is an interesting article assessing the requirements and options for Canada's "future" submarine force written for the MacDonald Institute by Jeffery Collins. There is a very good Forward written by retired Vice-Admiral Mark Norman. This should create some interesting discussions with forum members.

Deadline 2036 - Time is ticking on replacing Canada's vital submarine capabilities: New MLI paper by Jeffrey F. Collins | Macdonald-Laurier Institute

With Canada’s Victoria-class submarines soon due for replacement, Jeffrey Collins argues that now is the time to assess our options.

www.macdonaldlaurier.ca