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Hello and AsSalamo alikum.
I am Araz. You know me from . I will try amd contribute as much as I can.
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Hello and AsSalamo alikum.
I am Araz. You know me from . I will try amd contribute as much as I can.
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Hazrat, Welcome!! :--)

Good to see you here!
 

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Hazrat, Welcome!! :--)

Good to see you here!
Wa alaikum AsSalam . Glad to see the mela here. Also see a few good posters. Could you please do me a favour. Stop people from maligning the other forum. It is unfortunate that you had a bad experience there. However that is past. We need to move on and IF World defence has to establish credibility it needs to be above this kind of petty he said this and she said that. I hope you will understand where I am coming from. Your one step in this direction will allow plenty of traffic both ways.
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Wa alaikum AsSalam . Glad to see the mela here. Also see a few good posters. Could you please do me a favour. Stop people from maligning the other forum. It is unfortunate that you had a bad experience there. However that is past. We need to move on and IF World defence has to establish credibility it needs to be above this kind of petty he said this and she said that. I hope you will understand where I am coming from. Your one step in this direction will allow plenty of traffic both ways.
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I am sorry this favor that you ask is not possible. There is no maligning anyone, but people are not blind. They saw how Qadianis insulted Islam and our last Prophet SAWS. Be it offline, or online, this is a red line for me.
Despite the sugar coating it is malignant, and has been exposed as such. Even today look at how their Mods protect Indians and Iranians.

Unlike sellouts, THIS forum does not give two hoots, about ratings or money. In real life Allah S.W.T. has given us a lot.

People are here, because they understand what I stand for, and believe in it.
 

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Bro welcome here. Hope you will enjoy discussions here.


There is no harm talking about Pakistan defence . I believe most of us are here because we felt need to get out of that filth. It’s like a forum filed by the Indians and anti Pakistanis. We have a great civil discussions here and no we don’t indulge is maligning Pakistan defence..... it needs no help from us. It is turning into praise India/ insult Pakistan hangout.
 

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Wa alaikum AsSalam . Glad to see the mela here. Also see a few good posters. Could you please do me a favour. Stop people from maligning the other forum. It is unfortunate that you had a bad experience there. However that is past. We need to move on and IF World defence has to establish credibility it needs to be above this kind of petty he said this and she said that. I hope you will understand where I am coming from. Your one step in this direction will allow plenty of traffic both ways.
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Araz sb, I am a member of both the forums, no one forced me to leave the other forum and join this forum. Infact I regularly post on the other forum as well. I do not see any kind of maligning going on here.
 

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Your one step in this direction will allow plenty of traffic both ways.
I think everyone will agree with me, traffic is the last thing on anyone's mind here. We like to maintain a level of quality with some friendly banter sprinkled in. PDFs obsession with traffic and the subsequent revenue it brings in is what brought about its current predicament. It cannot afford (literally) to not welcome in those who wish harm upon our society.

Our naive youth, who come in to learn about defence and politics are barraged with propaganda from Indians, Iranians (and our lovely mullah-lovers), and pretend Muslims. PDF gladly host these diverse specimen hell-bent on their corrupt agendae against Islam and Pakistan.

Also, WDF's credibility is in no shape or form indebted to PDF. We are here because of Khafee and all these other patriotic and passionate contributors that make this place fun, interesting and educational.
 

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I think everyone will agree with me, traffic is the last thing on anyone's mind here. We like to maintain a level of quality with some friendly banter sprinkled in. PDFs obsession with traffic and the subsequent revenue it brings in is what brought about its current predicament. It cannot afford (literally) to not welcome in those who wish harm upon our society.

Our naive youth, who come in to learn about defence and politics are barraged with propaganda from Indians, Iranians (and our lovely mullah-lovers), and pretend Muslims. PDF gladly host these diverse specimen hell-bent on their corrupt agendae against Islam and Pakistan.

Also, WDF's credibility is in no shape or form indebted to PDF. We are here because of Khafee and all these other patriotic and passionate contributors that make this place fun, interesting and educational.
Beautifully stated. We have here a small community of professionals who have the best of our motherland at heart and enthusiasts like myself who would like to be educated without being bombarded with other agendae.
 

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I did not see the
I am sorry this favor that you ask is not possible. There is no maligning anyone, but people are not blind. They saw how Qadianis insulted Islam and our last Prophet SAWS. Be it offline, or online, this is a red line for me.
Despite the sugar coating it is malignant, and has been exposed as such. Even today look at how their Mods protect Indians and Iranians.

Unlike sellouts, THIS forum does not give two hoots, about ratings or money. In real life Allah S.W.T. has given us a lot.

People are here, because they understand what I stand for, and believe in it.
I did not see the debate on that topic as I assiduously avoid religious topics. I agree fully that Qadianis are non muslims and any assumption to the contrary is foolishness. Mirza Tahir in a national assembly admitted openly that they declare the Kaddab Ghulam Ahmad to be a Prophet. I have had an opportunity to see him in a congregation in the Qadiani mosque in Southfield London and will one day give you an account of that day. Needless to say it was illuminating to say the least.
I honestly did not know that was the reason for your exit from the forum. I do not feel that the Qadianis are muslims and Pakistan declares them as minorities. I do not have any reason to disagree with your position.
My contention however was a lot of posters are passing on news from this forum to that one and vice versa. I dont have any problems with that bt the negativity with which these things get posted are perhaps unsavoury. The fora should be brotherly as our aims should he the same ie betterment of Pakistan and its defence. This remains my aim and my position.
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Bro welcome here. Hope you will enjoy discussions here.


There is no harm talking about Pakistan defence . I believe most of us are here because we felt need to get out of that filth. It’s like a forum filed by the Indians and anti Pakistanis. We have a great civil discussions here and no we don’t indulge is maligning Pakistan defence..... it needs no help from us. It is turning into praise India/ insult Pakistan hangout.
Thank you for the welcome. I remain grateful. The Indian element has certainly soured things but it has been better since the 27/02. We need a healthy debate on the topic of managing diversity of thought process. Perhaps one day we can have a chat.
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I did not see the

I did not see the debate on that topic as I assiduously avoid religious topics. I agree fully that Qadianis are non muslims and any assumption to the contrary is foolishness. Mirza Tahir in a national assembly admitted openly that they declare the Kaddab Ghulam Ahmad to be a Prophet. I have had an opportunity to see him in a congregation in the Qadiani mosque in Southfield London and will one day give you an account of that day. Needless to say it was illuminating to say the least.
I honestly did not know that was the reason for your exit from the forum. I do not feel that the Qadianis are muslims and Pakistan declares them as minorities. I do not have any reason to disagree with your position.
My contention however was a lot of posters are passing on news from this forum to that one and vice versa. I dont have any problems with that bt the negativity with which these things get posted are perhaps unsavoury. The fora should be brotherly as our aims should he the same ie betterment of Pakistan and its defence. This remains my aim and my position.
A
I do not indulge in religious debate, as I feel everyone is entitled to practice what ever they wish, it is their never ending after life, after all. BUT, if someone insults Islam, AND our Prophet SAWS, then rest assured, I will not remain silent. This is exactly what transpired, I did not engage with the poster, but with Webby and his team, who initially defended him, before banning me.

"Posters from here are passing news there," I cant stop that, that is the other forums issue.
As to "Posters bringing info here," pls show me a single post, that says so. We have actual serving professionals, hence WE are in the breaking news business, the other forum just regurgitates.

On to the other forum's agenda, I am surprised that the pro-turkey, pro-iran, pro-india, pro-liberal, anti-islam propaganda has escaped you. Which all transpires into an anti-Pakistan agenda.

Our aim, unlike others is to highlight Pakistan's actual capabilities, any other forum or what it wants is irrelevant.

As to Kaafir Qadianis, since you can provide an eye witness account, it will be interesting to learn what you witnessed first hand. One thing that I am aware of, is that a child pornography ring, and pedophile gang, extortion, gambling, tax fraud, etc investigations were dropped in Germany, because they are allegedly a multi-billion $ cult.
 

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