Command Modern Operations

[Khafee]

No dear... air strikes are not carried out in swords and horse style.

Advantage without doubt lies with the strike package and most likely carried out at night. They will deliver the package, before Iranian SAM batteries are awoken, while i expect the escorts blinding all Iranian defenses and rendering all communications ineffective, Infect all sources of electronic activity would be targeted within span of seconds, unless pilot is waiting for political approvals as in case of Pakistan India air battle 27th February. Homing on target is job of the weapon, pilot is free to climb at safer altitude.
Evasive measures will surely be necessity, if all ECM fail, which is based on world's most advance technology available today.

I'm not an expert but can't confirm your 12K figure, but do explain why it is required?
Please as well tell, what actually are Iranian defense batteries, which can launch barrage of missiles at each F-16 flying at 12K altitude!

This 12k business, is factually incorrect.

 

[Philip the Arab]

UAE and Saudi Arabia should both have nukes just in case.

 

[Philip the Arab]

This 12k business, is factually incorrect.

Yeah, what nonsense is he talking about? UAE can launch cruise missile at 30k feet 400km away.


In the future it will mass produce cruise missile kits for dumb bombd as well in country with Denel.

 

[Nightfox]

This 12k business, is factually incorrect.

The figure may be wrong since it's been a while since I last checked but the concept of specific altitudes for weapon release is not.

 

[Khafee]

The figure may be wrong since it's been a while since I last checked but the concept of specific altitudes for weapon release is not.

Pls explain item in red

 

[Khafee]

Yeah, what nonsense is he talking about? UAE can launch cruise missile at 30k feet 400km away.


In the future it will mass produce cruise missile kits for dumb bombd as well in country with Denel.

You have a a good approx figure.

 

[Nightfox]

Pls explain item in red

 

[BATMAN]

All weapons have specific release altitudes to which an aircraft has to descend to release it and that's the danger window.For the Mk dumb bomb series the altitude is lowest and it increases with the "smartness" and spohistication of the weapon.To reply to the EW point i'll reply that whether the BLK60 has tactical EW pods is something that I do not know.However what I do know is that an AWAC like the SAAB or GLEX platform will not be a part of the package due to reasons of speed needed to keep up with the package.
Also to reply to the last paragraph 12K is not high altitude for a jet or a SAM when you see the jet's normal cruising altitude which is higher than that of commercial airliners.

You learned all this on the app?

As far the public knowledge is concerned, blk-60 does have most advance EW suite 'Falcon Edge'. asking me was really not necessary.

AWACS can stay within UAE airspace and still be able to communicate with blk-60 when they are already crossed in Iranian airspace, blk-60 are reported to have beyond line of sight communications ability, and top quality stand off weapons, integrated with AN/AAQ-32 FLIR targeting system.

You didn't mentioned about Iranian defense batteries, but they must be out of this world and having alien technologies, when their radars can't be jammed by EW, while they can fire barrages of smart, yet super sonic missiles at each F-16.

At least, i don't expect their missile and radar technology to be any better than Pakistan, which is as well the accused source.

At least you can see that your fundamental assertion, that Iranian defense batteries are the sure winner is a weak argument, when hardware is evaluated.

How any airfroce plan and conduct an air strike matter most.
Example, various US air raids in Pakistan, where our air defenses were totally compromised, radars could see nothing.

 

[Khafee]

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All of this holds true for "Dumb bombs" NOT missiles.

 

[space cadet]

I really think you guys are wasting your time, he is talking about attacking SAM sites in the same manner the US did in Vietnam in the 60's, it's ridicules, and with F-35's to boot. I should say though, in the 60s they would be low level dropping bombs on them, way below 12k

 

[Khafee]

I really think you guys are wasting your time, he is talking about attacking SAM sites in the same manner the US did in Vietnam in the 60's, it's ridicules, and with F-35's to boot

Everyday I learn something new, not necessarily related to the military, but nonetheless I do. If someones misconceptions can be cleared, and other members also educated in the process, then whats the harm?

 

[BATMAN]

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Hypothetically speaking, if they are flying in mig-11 with dumb bombs yes but think realistically, consider active radar homing and IR missiles, radar and communication jamers. AWACS can effectively jam Iranian radars as deep as 300KM, while flying in UAE air space. provided my estimate of border to border distance is not very wrong.

 

[BATMAN]

This 12k business, is factually incorrect.

That's why i doubted it from beginning, and asked him to clarify.
Rest is pure physics and quality of weapon and situation in battle.
If Iran fire it's missile straight up, i doubt if they can reach 12K.

 

[Nightfox]

Everyday I learn something new, not necessarily related to the military, but nonetheless I do. If someones misconceptions can be cleared, and other members also educated in the process, then whats the harm?

This text is from a text specifically about guided missiles and guidance systems.

 

[Nightfox]

Hypothetically speaking, if they are flying in mig-11 with dumb bombs yes but think realistically, consider active radar homing and IR missiles, radar and communication jamers. AWACS can effectively jam Iranian radars as deep as 300KM, while flying in UAE air space. provided my estimate of border to border distance is not very wrong.

Projectile motion does not care about your platform since physics will be uniform and the principle shown in the diagram will not change and any target correction done by a missile sensor can only go to an extent.Its an AGM not a HOBS type missile.