Erdogan says Turkey to launch 'air and ground' operation in Syria

[Falcon29]

Here is another example of the so called 'sworn enemies' Iran and the US. US moving out to allow the Iran supported regime in to fight Turkey. It's not normal for Israel and Iran screaming on TV about they how intend to destroy each other only for us to see concrete steps on ground for destruction of Sunni states in the Middle East. Give it several months and everyone will be aware of this reality that there is an alliance between world powers, Israel and Iran.

 

[Falcon29]

@Falcon29

If Iran and US had any beef among themselves, they would not have been co-operating in Afghanistan from past 1.5 decade.

Current Afghan regime and army commanders, who are ethnic Tajiks from gang of Northern Alliance, and now a days serves as regulars of IRGC, where and how those militants are deployed by Iran is a public knowledge.

Together, Iran and US carried out genocide and brutal killings of tribal Pashtoons in Afghanistan. Just because those were not Shia by religion. US funded, armed, trained and supported Shia in Afghanistan to fast forward decades long Indo-Iranian efforts to take over Afghanistan.

Iran also claim to be at odds with Israel, but their closest ally India is the closest ally of Israel.
How's that possible that both have no communication or co-operation?
Take an example: Hizbi animals firing missile on Israeli houses, yet Israel is not asking India to talk or boycott Iran?

All US sanctions on Iran were a big farce, while sanctions on Pakistan in 80's were quite comprehensive and effective.

Arab think tanks need to study this axis of evil from all dimensions.

Do you know how elections in Pakistan are engineered by Iran. They announce via their mafia styled network, which party member shall be voted etc.
Pakistan is the next state falling in lap of axis of evil.

Yep, this is dangerous for Pakistan, Turkey and Arab states. I think Pakistan is last in line. I have not seen one arena where US and Iran are opposed. In Iraq, Afghanistan , Pakistan(both tried violating Pakistan's sovereignty), Syria, Yemen, etc.... They are not opposed to each other anywhere. The whole feud with Israel is a deception tactic meant to dehumanize Sunnis. Sunnis are severely dehumanized to the point if they take steps to defend their security they are accused of committing genocide or helping ISIS. As we see with Turkey momentarily.

 

[Khafee]

Erdogan calls for NATO help in Syria; Trump, EU threaten sanctions
Oct. 14, 2019
By Nicholas Sakelaris

A demonstrator holds Palestinian and Turkish flags Monday during a rally to support Turkey's military incursion in northeastern Syria, in Khan Younis,Gaza Strip. Photo by Ismael Mohamad/UPI | License Photo

Oct. 14 (UPI) -- Syrian forces swept into Kurdish areas in the country's northeast on Monday amid flashes of fighting in minority-held areas and calls for help from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Syrian troops entered the city of Manbij in line with an agreement reached Sunday between Kurdish forces and Syrian and Turkish leaders, in which Kurdish officials agreed to hand over control of multiple cities in exchange for protection. Erdogan launched the Turkish offensive in Syria, called Operation Peace Spring, last week to clear out what Ankara considers to be Kurdish terrorists in the country's northeastern sector.

Turkey's aim is to create a "safe zone" in the northeast, near the border, to allow Syrian refugees in Turkey to resettle in their native country.

"We are about to implement our decision on Manbij," Erdogan said earlier.

"When Manbij is evacuated, the real owners will enter there."

Erdogan called on NATO allies for support, saying Turkey is under "pressure" and "harassment" by Kurdish terrorists.

"We are a NATO ally. ... They need to stand by us," he said.

The Turkish leader said more than 500 Kurdish "terrorists" have been killed since the operation began last week.

Syrian state-run media reported Monday that President Bashar al-Assad's forces were traveling north to "confront Turkish aggression."

The fighting began last week after U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria, allowing Erdogan's military to begin the offensive and drawing substantial criticism from the international community and members of both major U.S. political parties.

As a response to the fighting, nations in the European Union agreed Monday to halt exporting weapons to Turkey, saying they undermine stability and security in the region and hinders the Syrian peace process. EU foreign ministers reached the agreement at a meeting in Luxembourg, and also said they will draft a sanctions list related to Turkish drilling off Cyprus.

EU diplomats said the move is effectively an identical, quicker version of a full formal EU arms embargo.

"Turkey's security concerns in North-East Syria should be addressed through political and diplomatic means, not with military action, and in accordance with international humanitarian law," the EU Council said.

France, Germany, Finland and Sweden had already barred arms sales to Turkey.

The leaders of several European countries blamed Washington for the deteriorating situation Monday.
France is working to protect its troops in Syria, who have been there to support U.S. forces in the fight against the Islamic State terror group. Belgium and other nations are concerned captured European Union natives who joined the group could be set free or break out, and would be able to easily infiltrate Europe with terror attacks.
French President Emmanuel Macron has said previously his troops would also leave in the event of a U.S. pullout.

At least 11 civilians were killed and 74 injured in Ras al-Ain Serekaniye, just south of the Syria-Turkey border, the Kurdish Red Crescent reported, and 200,000 have been displaced. The U.N. World Food Program said it's planning assistance for 400,000 people who may need food and other aid.

Trump threatened Turkey with "big" sanctions Monday, suggesting Kurdish forces could be releasing terrorist captives to re-engage the U.S. military.

"We are not going into another war between people who have been fighting each other for 200 years," Trump tweeted. "Europe had a chance to get their [IS] prisoners but didn't want the cost. 'Let the USA pay,' they said ... Do people really think we should go to war with NATO member Turkey? Never ending wars will end!"

A video circulated online claimed to show Turkish-backed militants executing a Kurdish politician, her driver, members of the Kurdish security forces and several civilians.

Dozens of Palestinian demonstrators in the Gaza Strip marched Monday to support the Turkish incursion, following days of similar shows of support.

 

[Scorpion]

Erdogan calls for NATO help in Syria; Trump, EU threaten sanctions
Oct. 14, 2019
By Nicholas Sakelaris

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A demonstrator holds Palestinian and Turkish flags Monday during a rally to support Turkey's military incursion in northeastern Syria, in Khan Younis,Gaza Strip. Photo by Ismael Mohamad/UPI | License Photo

Oct. 14 (UPI) -- Syrian forces swept into Kurdish areas in the country's northeast on Monday amid flashes of fighting in minority-held areas and calls for help from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Syrian troops entered the city of Manbij in line with an agreement reached Sunday between Kurdish forces and Syrian and Turkish leaders, in which Kurdish officials agreed to hand over control of multiple cities in exchange for protection. Erdogan launched the Turkish offensive in Syria, called Operation Peace Spring, last week to clear out what Ankara considers to be Kurdish terrorists in the country's northeastern sector.

Turkey's aim is to create a "safe zone" in the northeast, near the border, to allow Syrian refugees in Turkey to resettle in their native country.

"We are about to implement our decision on Manbij," Erdogan said earlier.

"When Manbij is evacuated, the real owners will enter there."

Erdogan called on NATO allies for support, saying Turkey is under "pressure" and "harassment" by Kurdish terrorists.

"We are a NATO ally. ... They need to stand by us," he said.

The Turkish leader said more than 500 Kurdish "terrorists" have been killed since the operation began last week.

Syrian state-run media reported Monday that President Bashar al-Assad's forces were traveling north to "confront Turkish aggression."

The fighting began last week after U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria, allowing Erdogan's military to begin the offensive and drawing substantial criticism from the international community and members of both major U.S. political parties.

As a response to the fighting, nations in the European Union agreed Monday to halt exporting weapons to Turkey, saying they undermine stability and security in the region and hinders the Syrian peace process. EU foreign ministers reached the agreement at a meeting in Luxembourg, and also said they will draft a sanctions list related to Turkish drilling off Cyprus.

EU diplomats said the move is effectively an identical, quicker version of a full formal EU arms embargo.

"Turkey's security concerns in North-East Syria should be addressed through political and diplomatic means, not with military action, and in accordance with international humanitarian law," the EU Council said.

France, Germany, Finland and Sweden had already barred arms sales to Turkey.

The leaders of several European countries blamed Washington for the deteriorating situation Monday.
France is working to protect its troops in Syria, who have been there to support U.S. forces in the fight against the Islamic State terror group. Belgium and other nations are concerned captured European Union natives who joined the group could be set free or break out, and would be able to easily infiltrate Europe with terror attacks.
French President Emmanuel Macron has said previously his troops would also leave in the event of a U.S. pullout.

At least 11 civilians were killed and 74 injured in Ras al-Ain Serekaniye, just south of the Syria-Turkey border, the Kurdish Red Crescent reported, and 200,000 have been displaced. The U.N. World Food Program said it's planning assistance for 400,000 people who may need food and other aid.

Trump threatened Turkey with "big" sanctions Monday, suggesting Kurdish forces could be releasing terrorist captives to re-engage the U.S. military.

"We are not going into another war between people who have been fighting each other for 200 years," Trump tweeted. "Europe had a chance to get their [IS] prisoners but didn't want the cost. 'Let the USA pay,' they said ... Do people really think we should go to war with NATO member Turkey? Never ending wars will end!"

A video circulated online claimed to show Turkish-backed militants executing a Kurdish politician, her driver, members of the Kurdish security forces and several civilians.

Dozens of Palestinian demonstrators in the Gaza Strip marched Monday to support the Turkish incursion, following days of similar shows of support.

Germany, France, Italy, Finland and few other NATO members have suspended arms sales to Turkey. The US imposed sanctions yet Turkey asking for NATO support! This is beyond hilarious.

 

[TomCat]

Germany, France, Italy, Finland and few other NATO members have suspended arms sales to Turkey. The US imposed sanctions yet Turkey asking for NATO support! This is beyond hilarious.

Yea, but didn’t you watch Erdogan’s press conference? He was savage. “Don’t you try to give negative image of our actions or else we will open the door to 2.6m refugees to your countries”

 

[Scorpion]

Yea, but didn’t you watch Erdogan’s press conference? He was savage. “Don’t you try to give negative image of our actions or else we will open the door to 2.6m refugees to your countries”

So now he wants to use refugees he took for good cause to pressure some European countries? So cheap.

 

[Falcon29]

@IbnAbdullah

Here it begins, they are not going to address Turkey's refugee issue. They want the regime to regain back all of Syria. And they will move on Idlib once this is over.

 

[Falcon29]

 

[!eon]

What will happen if Assad's forces come dace to face with Turkish Army?

Assad knows he and his forces are nobody without Russia, and Russia ain't supporting against Turkey.
Kurds have to pay the price for US alliance, as Pakistan did pay in 71, after Soviet-Afghan war, and then after 911.

Hopefully, brothers in UAE and Saudia would realize from global history, why they need two birds of their own, without any part from US. @Khafee

 

[Khafee]

The Cost of Trump’s Syria Decision: Ethnic Cleansing
October 15, 2019
The president’s decision to stop acting in the region is an unconscionable betrayal of American principles and the loyalty of our allies.
by Sarkaw Aziz

When the Trump administration began, Americans were moved by the gruesome reports of children injured and killed by chemical weapons attacks in Syria, which led the president to take decisive action to save lives. In the fight against ISIS, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) became—and still are—Washington’s most reliable and effective ally. In this context, the president’s decision to withdraw from Syria is a bewildering betrayal of both America’s interests and its allies in Syria. President Donald Trump’s retreat from the Self Administration of North and East Syria (SANES) will lead to mass killing and ethnic cleansing; it will undo many of the gains made by the United States in Syria and the region to defeat ISIS.

On October 7, following a phone call with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Trump made the decision to withdraw U.S. forces from a stretch of Syria’s border with Turkey, eliciting a sharp response from SDF allies. The commander of the SDF, Gen. Mazloum Abdi, said that abandoning the Kurds “is hurting U.S. interests and reputation.” Even the president’s staunchest supporters rebuked the surprising move. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) noted that “this impulsive decision by the President has undone all the gains we've made, thrown the region into further chaos. Iran is licking their chops. And if I'm an ISIS fighter I've got a second lease on life.” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, “American interests are best served by American leadership, not by retreat or withdrawal.” Although Congress voted in January to keep U.S. troops in Syria, the president is unilaterally unraveling years of progress.

After officially defeating the ISIS caliphate alongside U.S. troops earlier this year, the SDF is now at the mercy of Turkey. The power vacuum left by a U.S. withdrawal leaves the Kurds, along with Christians and other religious minorities, vulnerable to ethnic and religious cleansing. Human-rights violations occurred in Afrin in early 2018 when Turkey launched their second incursion into northern Syria. The capture of Afrin, which was a stable region prior to Turkey’s invasion, led to the displacement of over 140,000 people now living in makeshift camps without proper access to basic services. According to Amnesty International, Syrian groups armed by Turkey have committed serious human-rights violations against the local population such as arbitrary detention, enforced disappearances, looting, property confiscation, and torture.

Erdogan has already made clear his intention to brutally reshuffle local populations—and today Turkish forces have begun an offensive against U.S.-backed Kurdish forces. At the UN General Assembly, Erdogan said “If this safe zone can be declared, we can resettle confidently somewhere between one to two million refugees,” despite the illegality of involuntary relocation of refugees under international law. Because Afrin was in Russia’s area of influence, the United States had limited options to prevent a Turkish incursion. However, the president can control the playing field in SANES and his decision to remove U.S. troops, whether implemented now or over time, will see Edrogran repeat Turkey’s treatment of Afrin across all of northeastern Syria.

In a region characterized by strongmen politics and authoritarian capitalism, SANES created an oasis of peace and stability since the defeat of ISIS in Syria. Given the much larger size of the region in question, human-rights violations will be more widespread and severe compared to Afrin. But unlike in Afrin, the United States is in a position to act. The president’s decision to stop acting in the region is an unconscionable betrayal of American principles and the loyalty of our allies.

 

[Falcon29]

 

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[Scorpion]

@Falcon29 what do you make of this now after Turkey allowed Assad troops to take over some very important areas?

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

Hopefully, brothers in UAE and Saudia would realize from global history, why they need two birds of their own, without any part from US.

Could you please explain what you mean by the above quote. Thanks.