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Indian drone crashes after entering Chinese airspace
Latest incident between the two Asian giants comes ahead of Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi’s trip to New Delhi next week

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 07 December, 2017, 11:33am
UPDATED : Thursday, 07 December, 2017, 11:36pm
by Teddy Ng & Liu Zhen

Beijing accused India of infringing on its territorial sovereignty after an Indian drone “invaded” Chinese airspace before crashing, triggering fresh tensions between the two nations ahead of Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi’s trip to New Delhi.

India said the incident was caused by a “technical problem”, but Beijing said it was “dissatisfied with” and opposed India’s drone activities.
No details were given about when the incident happened, with Beijing only saying it occurred “recently” at the border separating India’s northeastern Sikkim state and China’s Tibet region.

The Indian army said the drone was on a regular training mission inside the “Indian territory” but had lost contact with ground control due to a technical problem and crossed over the line of control in Sikkim.

The Indian army said it immediately alerted its Chinese counterparts to find the drone.

“The exact cause of the incident is under investigation. The matter is being dealt with in accordance with the established protocols through institutional mechanisms to deal with situations along the India-China border,” the army said in a statement.

But Beijing reacted strongly to the incident, with foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang calling on India to “stop the [drone] activities” near the border.
“The action of the Indian side violated China’s territory and is not conducive to peace and tranquillity in the border area,” Geng said in a daily press briefing. “China is dissatisfied with this and has lodged solemn representations with the Indian side.”

Zhang Shuili, deputy head of the Chinese military’s Western Theatre Command combat bureau, was quoted by state-run Xinhua as saying that India had infringed on China’s territorial sovereignty.
“We strongly express our opposition,” Zhang said. “China’s border forces acted professionally and responsibly.”

Beijing-based military commentator Zhou Chenming said the altitude of that region of the Himalayas was over 4,000 metres, which was close to the Indian drone’s flight ceiling.
“Flying near its limit increased the chance of mechanical or electronic failure. Added to that, the area sees extremely low temperatures, strong winds and heavy snow at this time of year,” he said. “It’s not surprising the drone crashed.”

Drone flyovers by both sides on the border were normal, Zhou said, adding that China and India tended to show restraint unless something especially provocative happened.

The incident comes three months after China and India ended a tense 72-day military stand-off on the disputed Doklam plateau, on the border between the state of Sikkim in India, Bhutan’s Haa Valley and Tibet’s Chumbi Valley.

Chinese defence ministry spokesman Wu Qian said last week that Doklam was China’s territory and that the Chinese military had the right to deploy troops there.

Growing Chinese activity in the Indian Ocean has pushed New Delhi to buy more drones from the United States. US President Donald Trump authorised the sale of two dozen drones to India in June, at an estimated cost of US$3 billion.

China has also significantly expanded its use of drones in the Himalayas since the start of this decade.

Foreign minister Wang will visit New Delhi next week to attend the Russia-India-China foreign ministers’ trilateral meeting and hold talks with top Indian officials.

Sun Shihai, an international relations expert at the China Academy of Social Sciences, said the incident, and the use of drones for surveillance, could come up during the talks.
“The border issue has become very sensitive since the stand-off so they might try to find some new consensus on how to keep the peace,” Sun said.

Wang Dehua, director of the Centre for South Asia Studies at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, said the incident could be used in the talks as a bargaining chip by the Indian side.

But Rajeev Ranjan Chaturvedy, a research associate at the Institute of South Asian Studies, National University of Singapore, said it was “just a minor incident due to technical failure and has been communicated in a timely manner to the Chinese authorities. Normal protocol should be followed”.

This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: CHINA says indian drone ‘invaded’its airspaceChina says Indian drone ‘invaded’its airspace’

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Indian Drone "Invaded" Airspace, Crashed, Claims Chinese State Media
In August, China and India pulled back their troops to resolve a tense deadlock at Doklam in the Sikkim sector, which is claimed by both China and Bhutan.
All India | Agence France-Presse
Updated: December 07, 2017
09:19 IST

Beijing: An Indian drone has "invaded" China's airspace and crashed, Chinese state media alleged today, months after the Beijing and New Delhi agreed to end one of the worst border standoffs in decades.

"The Indian move violated China's territorial sovereignty. We strongly express our dissatisfaction and opposition," Xinhua news agency cited the deputy director of the army's western theatre combat bureau, Zhang Shuili, as claiming.

Zhang, however, could not give details about when or where the incident happened.

Chinese border troops "took a professional and responsible attitude" and carried out identification verification of the device, Zhang claimed.

In August, China and India pulled back their troops to resolve a tense deadlock at Doklam in the Sikkim sector, which is claimed by both China and Bhutan.

Army chief Bipin Rawat had said in September that India could not afford to be complacent and must be prepared for war.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...ce-crashed-claims-chinese-state-media-1784613
 

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India clarifies on UAV crash as China protests ‘violation of airspace’
by Special Correspondent, New Delhi,
December 07, 2017 15:38 IST
Updated December 07, 2017 19:21 IST

New Delhi says the UAV was on a regular training mission and crossed over the LAC in the Sikkim Sector after developing a glitch.

An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) of the Indian Army that crashed into the Chinese side of the border was on a regular training mission and lost contact with ground control due to technical problem, the Ministry of Defence said in New Delhi. In a statement, it also claimed that “as per standard protocol, the Indian border security personnel immediately alerted their Chinese counterparts to locate the UAV”.

The Indian clarification came in the wake of China’s defence ministry accusing India of violating its airspace. “The Indian move violated China's territorial sovereignty. We strongly express our dissatisfaction and opposition," deputy director of the Chinese Army’s western theatre combat bureau Zhang Shuil, said in a statement.

In response, the Indian side said, “An Indian UAV which was on a regular training mission inside the Indian territory lost contact with the ground control due to some technical problem and crossed over the LAC [Line of Actual Control] in the Sikkim Sector.”

The MoD said the Chinese side reverted with the location details of the UAV. The exact cause of the incident is under investigation.

An MOD spokesperson said, “The matter is being dealt with in accordance with the established protocols through institutional mechanisms to deal with situations along the India- China border areas.”

PTI adds:

China’s protest
Earlier, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told a media briefing in Beijing that “an Indian UAV invaded China’s airspace and crashed in the Sikkim section of the China-India border”. He said the Chinese border troops had taken a “professional and responsible attitude” to verify the device.

“I want to point out that the Sikkim section of the China India border has been delimited,” he said, in an apparent reference to the 1890 China-British Treaty.

Mr. Geng did not spell out when the incident took place.

“The action of the Indian side violated China’s sovereignty and it is not conducive to the peace and tranquillity of the border area and China is dissatisfied with this and lodged solemn representation with the Indian side,” Mr. Geng said.

In a diplomatic protest to India, “China asked the Indian side to stop the activities of the devices near the border and work with China to maintain peace and tranquillity of the border areas”, he said.

Mr. Geng refused to not confirm if the incident took place near Doklam, where the two countries were locked in a 73-day-long border standoff that ended on August 28.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...crashed-into-chinese-side/article21289559.ece
 

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China And India Aim For A Diplomatic Solution Over Their Drone Crash Crisis

China and India are expected to resolve diplomatically a flap this week over New Delhi's drone that crashed in Chinese territory and steer away from another military standoff like one earlier in the year at Doklam Plateau, the worst of its kind in decades.
The two countries are Asia's largest by population as well as military might. They dispute two tracts of land along their rugged Himalayan border, where for about 70 days starting in June, Indian troops faced Chinese counterparts in a tense border standoff. It was near here that the drone went down.
Although China angrily accused India of an "intrusion" after the unmanned vehicle crashed, it made a diplomatic protest with no sign of an army buildup. It further suggested that India "work with China to maintain peace and stability," a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said Thursday.
India's Press Information Bureau said Thursday the drone had “lost contact with the ground control due to some technical problem” during a routine mission. Hinting at talks rather than troops to settle things with China, it added that “the matter is being dealt with in accordance with the established protocols through institutional mechanisms to deal with situations along the India-China border areas.”
Since the mid-year military standoff on the Doklam Plateau, senior leaders from the two sides -- as high up as Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping -- have met during at least three regional summits. At the BRICS Summit 2017 in China in September, Xi and Modi said good relations were in the interest of both.

Chinese President Xi Jinping (R) meets with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on September 5, 2017 in Xiamen, China. (Du Yang/CHINA NEWS SERVICE/VCG via Getty Images)
"I don't think that this (drone) issue will escalate tensions," said Mohan Malik, Asian security professor at the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies in Honolulu. "It should pass with a diplomatic fix, because the Indian side has reportedly acknowledged that its drone crossed over to Chinese territory as it 'lost control' of it."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphjennings/2017/12/08/chinas-anger-at-crashed-drone-shows-growing-fear-over-the-power-of-india/#4ce355c44289
 

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What type of drones they fly in that region?
 

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;)The Chinese already use Israeli made drones. Herons are 20 years old stuff

But its still expensive and better than the cheap things you fly at LOC to annoy us .......... why this discrimination :mad:
 

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Chinese don't carry guns. You doœ∑¥

So they deserve to get their hands on a better piece of equipment and we don't ......... not nice. (!_!)

How long India has been operating these herons?
 

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So they deserve to get their hands on a better piece of equipment and we don't ......... not nice. (!_!)

How long India has been operating these herons?
Honestly no idea. It should be more than 10 years. Many countries operate it too, including Turkey, Azerbaijan, Morocco, Ecuador, Asussie and ofcourse US.
 

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So they deserve to get their hands on a better piece of equipment and we don't ......... not nice. (!_!)
You have your own drone industry which I think looks cool I have seen few pics too (my juvi knowledge in them).
 

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You have your own drone industry which I think looks cool I have seen few pics too (my juvi knowledge in them).

But our drones don't share your information with us ...... @khafee @Tps77 @H!thchiker would be better able to comment on Pakistani drone industry and types of drones we operate.
 

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Was it really a technical issue or brought down by China?
 
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