Key to India becoming permanent member of UN Security Council is not to touch veto: US ambassador to UN Nikki Haley

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Key to India becoming permanent member of UN Security Council is not to touch veto: US ambassador to UN Nikki Haley


US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley. (File)

  • The key to India becoming a permanent member of the UN Security Council is “not to touch the veto”, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has said as she identified Russia and China as the two global powers against changes in the current structure of the Security Council. “(This reform of the UN Security Council) is much more about the veto.
The permanent five (members of the Security Council) have the ability to veto. Russia, China, UK (United Kingdom), US and France and none of them want to give that up. So, the key to getting India on the Security Council would have to be not to touch the veto,” Haley said at an event organised on the US Capitol by US India Friendship Council.
US is open to Security Council reform and always have been responding, she said in response to a question from Swadesh Chatterjee, chair of the US India Friendship Council after she delivered her keynote remarks on “The Role of Congress in Promoting US-India Cooperation on International Issues.” Haley said the US Congress or the Senate can’t have much role in reforming the Security Council.
“Not really. They really can’t. Because members of the Security Council are not going to listen to the Congress on the shape of the Security Council,” she observed. Haley said the US is already on board, but there is need to focus “on Russia and China”, the two permanent members of the Security Council who “do not want to see any” changes in the Security Council. “It’s a UN issue, it’s going to require UN reform and I think, India has to go and bring together as many supporters as it can in order to really effect that change in the Security Council,” Haley said.
For long India has been calling for reform of the UN Security Council. India and a large number of countries believe that the current UN and its powerful Security Council does not reflect the ground realities of the 21st century. Last month, foreign minister of G4 countries – India, Brazil, Germany and Japan – met in New York on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly to push their case for reform of the Security Council including expansion of its permanent and non-permanent members.
India has also received support from several other multilateral groupings during the current General Assembly session in this regard, including BRICS and IBSA. Several countries have taken up the floor of general assembly to support India’s permanent membership.

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The whole veto system should be abolished and reconstructed and I don't see why India is not a permanent member in the UN considering its size and population!
 

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The whole veto system should be abolished and reconstructed !
Not possible.
Because there would be a Veto waiting in the wings against above proposal.

Veto is a perpetual power, as long as UNO exists.
 

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Not possible.
Because there would be a Veto waiting in the wings against above proposal.

Veto is a perpetual power, as long as UNO exists.
There should be at least be someone representing the Arabs. We should not allow our fate to be in the hands of others. The whole UN meetings since established have been mostly about ME issues concerning Arab states. When was the last UN meeting to address famin, poverty, education, global economy, global health, Iran terrorism, Israel illegal settlements?
 

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There should be at least be someone representing the Arabs. We should not allow our fate to be in the hands of others. The whole UN meetings since established have been mostly about ME issues concerning Arab states. When was the last UN meeting to address famin, poverty, education, global economy, global health, Iran terrorism, Israel illegal settlements?
Africans and Hindus too think on the same lines/
 

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Africans and Hindus too think on the same lines/
Sure why not but I don't see how India is going to give or take from the position when India is not an affective player in the international arena today. Africa also is politically divided so giving them veto power is not going to help either.
 

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Key to India becoming permanent member of UN Security Council is not to touch veto: US ambassador to UN Nikki Haley


US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley. (File)

  • The key to India becoming a permanent member of the UN Security Council is “not to touch the veto”, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has said as she identified Russia and China as the two global powers against changes in the current structure of the Security Council. “(This reform of the UN Security Council) is much more about the veto.
The permanent five (members of the Security Council) have the ability to veto. Russia, China, UK (United Kingdom), US and France and none of them want to give that up. So, the key to getting India on the Security Council would have to be not to touch the veto,” Haley said at an event organised on the US Capitol by US India Friendship Council.
US is open to Security Council reform and always have been responding, she said in response to a question from Swadesh Chatterjee, chair of the US India Friendship Council after she delivered her keynote remarks on “The Role of Congress in Promoting US-India Cooperation on International Issues.” Haley said the US Congress or the Senate can’t have much role in reforming the Security Council.
“Not really. They really can’t. Because members of the Security Council are not going to listen to the Congress on the shape of the Security Council,” she observed. Haley said the US is already on board, but there is need to focus “on Russia and China”, the two permanent members of the Security Council who “do not want to see any” changes in the Security Council. “It’s a UN issue, it’s going to require UN reform and I think, India has to go and bring together as many supporters as it can in order to really effect that change in the Security Council,” Haley said.
For long India has been calling for reform of the UN Security Council. India and a large number of countries believe that the current UN and its powerful Security Council does not reflect the ground realities of the 21st century. Last month, foreign minister of G4 countries – India, Brazil, Germany and Japan – met in New York on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly to push their case for reform of the Security Council including expansion of its permanent and non-permanent members.
India has also received support from several other multilateral groupings during the current General Assembly session in this regard, including BRICS and IBSA. Several countries have taken up the floor of general assembly to support India’s permanent membership.

What a twat racist bitch.
That's a pretty awful sexist remark.

What did she say that called it out of you?
 

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Sure why not but I don't see how India is going to give or take from the position when India is not an affective player in the international arena today. Africa also is politically divided so giving them veto power is not going to help either.
Issue is simply being entitled to holding VETO privileged does not corroborate to exert influence in International politics.Did US or Russia to the extent France in Libya went out to follow process , NO. Arab world is as divided as Africa..There are 22 members is Arab league , correct me if i am wrong including the countries dominating the OIL market and have stable economies , should they wish to impose sanctions or stand behind as 1 voice (not just voice but practical steps)they can change the things..
 

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Sure why not but I don't see how India is going to give or take from the position when India is not an affective player in the international arena today. Africa also is politically divided so giving them veto power is not going to help either.

Apart from these P-5 members, no other nation will ever get Veto power.
Just because these 5 stalwarts control it all and don't want any dilution in their "say" or voice.
 

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Issue is simply being entitled to holding VETO privileged does not corroborate to exert influence in International politics.Did US or Russia to the extent France in Libya went out to follow process , NO. Arab world is as divided as Africa..There are 22 members is Arab league , correct me if i am wrong including the countries dominating the OIL market and have stable economies , should they wish to impose sanctions or stand behind as 1 voice (not just voice but practical steps)they can change the things..
The Arab states are not divided in foreign policy. They may have some small minor issues among some members of the league but they always exercise a united foreign policy. Things like stability, security and economy.
 

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The Arab states are not divided in foreign policy. They may have some small minor issues among some members of the league but they always exercise a united foreign policy. Things like stability, security and economy.
No , unfortunaetly lets examine all 3

1) Stability : Iraq (State with major military power) not stable , Syria another arab nation much strong has been destroyed , Libya :no need to mention .Most of stability is just prevalent in GCC and how did it or other member of Arab league exert there influence and power to maintain peace in other Arab league member countries ?Answer is clear ..So Arab league has failed to provide stability for majority of people.

2) Security :again we see no security or pacts among the state members to protect the weaker states .In contrast NATO does not need UN to protect ..Arab league has more resources in disposal but unable to transform it into security for region..I don't think it is unity

3) Economy : Again outside GCC (which does not represent the majority of Arab population) there is nothing much..Or the resources not being diverted to poor nations..Unity ?

What i am trying to imply Arab states if form unity will not have need of Veto or any other power to protect..What good is policy if not translated to actions on ground
 
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