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i refuse to accept such claims. all Iraqis are living in hell not just Christians.
im sick of these brainwashing titles.
the vast majority of the 5 million who got killed and 10s of millions who got displaced since 9/11 are SUNNI MUSLIMS.
the majority of the 500,000 syrians killed are sunni
majority of the 11 million refugees and displaced syrians are sunni.

the world has shown us how racist they are when they started a campaign to save yazidies in iraq cuz they are a "targeted minority"

basiclly they were saying its ok if sunni muslims die we got plenty of them.
the minority card is sick.
the world and the UN should have moved to save ALL IRAQIES AND ALL SYRIANS. regardless of their religion

for your information there are around 25 to 3o million christians in the arab world. maybe less im not sure.
but generaly speaking and percentage wise they are among the richer class in their countries.
But is it not true that Sunnis and Shiites have been killing EACH OTHER for a long long time? I think we only need to get involved when they bring the fight to us, as in 9/11. And I think common sense dictates that Jews or Christians in any Islamic country are never going to be safe.
 

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But is it not true that Sunnis and Shiites have been killing EACH OTHER for a long long time? I think we only need to get involved when they bring the fight to us, as in 9/11. And I think common sense dictates that Jews or Christians in any Islamic country are never going to be safe.
we have our history. but we were living in peace until khomeini came from the west in a french plane.
sunni and shia married from one another until the iranians escalated the matter. and then things became really deadly when in 2003 the US officially gave iraq to iran. the saudi government warned the US about every mess happened since 2001.
US and iran were attacking each other on the media but they were working together officially in Afghanistan and Iraq.
you can YT it its official you got the iranian president and US officials confirming it them selves in a documentary.

as for jews and christians.
majority of them live in Egypt, jordan, lebanon and syria. in all 4 countries there are millionaires and billionaires.
so i really dont know what you are talking about ?!
iv been to 2 of those countries many times and i know many Christians from those 4 countries a lot even work in saudi in top companies.
im sorry but you dont know what you are talking about.
arab jews exist in very small numbers in arab countries they live very very peacfuly.
the largest arab jews population are in yemen if im not mistaken and they live in peace with their muslim neighbors.

as for 9/11.. my personal opinion its an inside job for pure scientific reason
start investigating scientifically how WTC 7, the 3rd tower, fell down then you will get the answers for the rest of the puzzle.
start here thats a well known organization with 2322 architects and engineers from all sort of fields confirm the scientific evidence


World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? - Home
 

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It is a sad day that anyone is suffering and dying in the name of religion.
 

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we have our history. but we were living in peace until khomeini came from the west in a french plane.
sunni and shia married from one another until the iranians escalated the matter. and then things became really deadly when in 2003 the US officially gave iraq to iran. the saudi government warned the US about every mess happened since 2001.
US and iran were attacking each other on the media but they were working together officially in Afghanistan and Iraq.
you can YT it its official you got the iranian president and US officials confirming it them selves in a documentary.

as for jews and christians.
majority of them live in Egypt, jordan, lebanon and syria. in all 4 countries there are millionaires and billionaires.
so i really dont know what you are talking about ?!
iv been to 2 of those countries many times and i know many Christians from those 4 countries a lot even work in saudi in top companies.
im sorry but you dont know what you are talking about.
arab jews exist in very small numbers in arab countries they live very very peacfuly.
the largest arab jews population are in yemen if im not mistaken and they live in peace with their muslim neighbors.



as for 9/11.. my personal opinion its an inside job for pure scientific reason
start investigating scientifically how WTC 7, the 3rd tower, fell down then you will get the answers for the rest of the puzzle.
start here thats a well known organization with 2322 architects and engineers from all sort of fields confirm the scientific evidence


World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? - Home


Well I guess we'll just agree to disagree! I'm sorry but you are not making ANY sense at all. But I will say that the myth about 9/11, is just that, a myth. We know who did it! Also, just fyi, Jewish people do not like being called "Arab jews."
 
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That happens only once in the entire history of modern Egypt. Christians form 8% in Egypt and well integrated into the society. They have never been threatened or put in danger.

Sweden protest after three mosque fires in one week

Sweden protest after three mosque fires in one week - BBC News

DELGA, Egypt -- On August 20, 2013 in the small village of Delga, four hours south of Cairo, Egypt, thousands of radical Muslims went on a rampage.

"We were at work when we heard Muslims were burning churches," Boutrous, a Christian living in Delga at the time, said. Boutrous's real name was not given for security purposes.

"Leaders in the mosques were telling Muslims to attack Christians and kill them," he said.

Boutrous and his father Iskander, both Christians, were in their family barber shop when a mob of Muslims attacked them.

"They broke into the shop, took everything and burned the place down," Boutrous said.

Caught on Tape

Boutrous managed to escape, but his father wasn't so fortunate.

"They caught my father and shot him multiple times. Then they dragged his body to the mosque," Boutrous said.

That afternoon, someone with a cell phone recorded a video of Boutrous' father's body, riddled with bullets, being dragged through the streets.

"When they reached the mosque they tied his body to a tractor and dragged him through the village again."

The mob continued to mutilate his father's body while chanting 'Allahu Akbar,' Arabic for 'god is great.'

He was buried hours later in a nearby cemetery.

"The next day some people dug up his body and dragged it through the village again. They did this three times that day," Boutrous said.

Boutrous and his family have since escaped from Delga.

"We have no money, no clothes, no job, our home is destroyed, and our business is destroyed," he said.

Expect Death at Any Time

Delga is part of the Minya province, center of the worst violence against Christians in seven centuries.

Anba Macarius is head bishop of Minya's Coptic Church.

"Three hundred homes, 100 businesses, 15 churches and about 10 Christian organizations were destroyed in my province," he said from his parish in Minya Province, home to the largest number of Christians in Egypt.

Macarius said the killing and arson attacks happened because Christians supported the removal of former Islamist President Mohammed Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood government.

Since then, more than 100 churches and hundreds of homes and businesses have been destroyed. The government says it will try to rebuild all the places of worship.

But the big question remains: What about those who have lost everything, their livelihood and their homes?

"Christians in Egypt are expecting death at any time," Macarius said.

And he should know. Days before the interview with CBN News, Macarius was the target of an assassination attempt. Driving through a town in Minya province, gunmen began firing at his car.

"I thank the Lord I am still alive but I am like anybody else in Minya, we all face dangers. My life is not more precious than any other soul in Minya," Macarius said.

Forty-Eight Hours of Death

Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt's 80 million population. They face daily harassment nearly a year after Morsi's ouster and the government's crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood.

Joseph has had firsthand experience. His identity has been concealed for security reasons. He was abducted late last year by seven gunmen and tortured for two days.

"They put a gun to my head and in my mouth. I started to pray, 'Lord my life is in your hands and I am ready to go when my time is up,'" he said.

"I call them the 48 hours of death. No food, no water, no light, no sleeping. I was blindfolded that entire time and they kept beating me, punching me in the face, on my shoulder and on my back," he said.

The kidnappers routinely target Christians.

"I asked one of the kidnappers, 'Why do you just kidnap Christians?' And he said, 'Christians are weak, they don't retaliate with violence and they have money,'" Joseph said.

The men initially demanded a $80,000 ransom. After hours of negotiations, they settled on $43,000.

Still, it was a huge sum that Joseph said his family could not afford to pay. That's when friends from his church stepped in.

"I had some money in savings, but the rest of the ransom money came from church members. I cannot thank them enough for saving my life," Joseph said.

Modern Day Christian Exodus

Bishop Macarius said the security conditions have led several hundred Christian families to consider leaving Minya, but he encourages them to stay.

"We are telling the church that they must endure the persecution. We must consider it an honor to endure this persecution otherwise it will contradict the level of our commitment to our faith."

Egypt will hold presidential elections later in May. Joseph is praying Egypt's Christians will see better days.

"The Muslim Brotherhood's time in office almost destroyed our country but we are thankful they never had the opportunity to finish their term. Now it will take some time to secure our country," Joseph said.

Boutros and his family are still hiding in an undisclosed location, but hope to one day go back home to Delga.

"Christians view the current situation as an opportunity to witness about Christ through our suffering," he said. "We have to be tolerant and keep praying for our enemies."


Egypt 'Christians Expecting Death Any Time' - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
 

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Anyone is is fanatical about anything is going to be a dangerous threat. The fanatical Muslims aren't any worse than anyone other fanatics
 

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Please don't generalize. There are Christians living in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Algeria, Tunisian.
I'm not generalizing? Where the heck is the "generalization" there? All I said was if they didn't feel at home in their current place of residence, maybe because there lives were always threatened, they could always move out elsewhere where they're safe. Where's generalization there? Besides, can you cite a Christian extremist faction? Just because I said only Muslim nations make a fuss about religious differences to the point of resorting to terrorism that doesn't mean I'm condemning Muslims. Reading between and beyond the lines help.
 

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Well, most Muslims live in the third world so there are obvious socio-economical angles that have to be considered. But, I'm sure have heard of the Westboro Baptist Church and KKK. Homosexuals are still killed in African countries.
But even if you've heard them, they have never evolved into organized terrorist networks, right? I know every faith has its fair share of dogmatism but I'm not blaming the belief system at all. I'm blaming the followers. When EQ-challenged individuals over-internalize their religion, extremism happens.
 

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Muslims burn Christian churches in Egypt. And Christians are still treated relatively well in Egypt compared to other Arab countries.

Christians in Lebanon and Palestine have it best. Most Arabs are secular though, they aren't as religious as some percieve. Only in war zones do we have situation of militancy such as in Iraq or Syria. It's not simple situation and difficult to resolve since regional compeititon is very fierce.
 
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But even if you've heard them, they have never evolved into organized terrorist networks, right? I know every faith has its fair share of dogmatism but I'm not blaming the belief system at all. I'm blaming the followers. When EQ-challenged individuals over-internalize their religion, extremism happens.

Yeah, because they still live in a first world country. I'm sure if there were no police, a broken government, and no contact with the outside world, America would see a lot mot extremism.
 
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