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This is a Middle East military focused magazine and I can only access their article summary. Prices per article starts at minimum $100 credit purchase . They are few years old and not worth wasting money.

After Feb 27 event and poor performance of IAF Mirage 2000s against JF17s I think this deal is probably completely dead.

UAE, Pakistan and Mirage 2000-9s

There is talk that lately-appointed Chief of General Staff of the Pakistani Army General Qamar Javed Bajwa intends to reactivate contacts with the UAE to buy the Emirati Mirage 2000-9 fighter jets in favor of Pakistan Air Force (PAF). The following 348-word report sheds more light on the subject and tells what about the Emirati reaction. [Partly reproduced in TR Weekly Issue No 24/03 – Jan. 20, 2017]

Qatar: Talks with Pakistan over Mirage 2000-5s

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Qatar and Pakistan are said to be engaged in talks since the beginning of this year over a deal for the French-made aircraft of type Mirage 2000-5 in service with the Qatari Air Force (QAF). The following 391-word report sheds more light on the subject and tells what about the talks between Qatar and Pakistan over the deal and what aircraft Qatar might purchase to replace the Mirage 2000-5s. [Briefly reproduced in TR Weekly Issue No 23/27 – July 1, 2016]
 

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I dont think Mirage-2000 performed poorly either in 2019 or even before. Its the best strike fighter that IAF has got. Rafale might be able to take its role in future when its retired. You may need to study Mirage-2000 more to know why it was used in Kargil war despite IAF having Mig-27 and Jaguar. Then Mirage-2000 was used in 2019 again. Check the armament carried by SU-30 MKI and then analyse why Mirage-2000 was used instead.
 

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I am well aware of Mirage 2000 performance during Kargil. It was intact the only aircraft suited for high altitude bombing and had Israeli pods added to give it precision bombing capability. Jaguar could not bomb at the altitudes the targets were located. Mig-27 was easily shot down with MANPAD and was quickly withdrawn.
You are mixing up Su 30 which is not a dedicated bomber. Despite Mirage's excellent precision attack capability, in the hands of Indians it turned into a complete dud. May I remind you five missed targets in Balakot?

As for the air to air combat, despite facing JF17s inside Indian territory, they failed to fire even one missile and because their radars were jammed decided to bail out quickly claiming radar malfunction.The aircraft is good but the pilots make it look worse than Su7s...
 

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Would love to have them. However UAE just spent 1B USD to upgrade them. Also introducing a platform which is no longer in production is a tricky deal as well...
 

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Would love to have them. However UAE just spent 1B USD to upgrade them. Also introducing a platform which is no longer in production is a tricky deal as well...
Agree UAE recently upgraded these fleet they have them in good numbers, so why UAE will give it to Pakistan?

About Qatar, thay have on 13 in total they getting very high tech birds like rafale, F15 and EFT so they can possibly layoffs them once got these high tech birds, but question what will Pakistan do with only one sqd of already used bird ?
 

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I think the post was about Qatar not UAE. Anyways, seems dated.
THERE LOOKS NO SIGNS THAT PAKISTAN IS INTRESTED M2K ANY MORE BCZ MORE OPTIONS ARE IN HANDS NOW AND IF YOUR POCKET IS FULL YOU CAN PROCURE ITEMS OF UR CHOICE.IN MY HUMBLE OPINION US AND CHINA ARE MOST POSSIBLE SOURCES FROM WHERE PAKISTAN CAN PURCHASE ITEMS OF HER INTREST VIA CSF AND CREDIT LINE RESPECTIVELY.M2K NO DOUBT IS BEST BUT WE MISSED A GOLDEN CHANCE TO CATCH THAT TRAIN LONG AGO.
 

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THERE LOOKS NO SIGNS THAT PAKISTAN IS INTRESTED M2K ANY MORE BCZ MORE OPTIONS ARE IN HANDS NOW AND IF YOUR POCKET IS FULL YOU CAN PROCURE ITEMS OF UR CHOICE.IN MY HUMBLE OPINION US AND CHINA ARE MOST POSSIBLE SOURCES FROM WHERE PAKISTAN CAN PURCHASE ITEMS OF HER INTREST VIA CSF AND CREDIT LINE RESPECTIVELY.M2K NO DOUBT IS BEST BUT WE MISSED A GOLDEN CHANCE TO CATCH THAT TRAIN LONG AGO.
OF COURSE WE CAN'T COMPARE M2K WITH F-16 BLK 70 BUT IT REMAINS A PLATFORM WHICH HAS UTILITY IN PAF AS MUCH AS F-16.

PAF WILL NOT REFUSE ANY GOOD CONDITION MIRAGE, PROVIDED IT'S SOLD 1/4 THE PRICE OF JF-17, WHILE UAE M2K THEY SHOULDN'T REFUSE EVEN AT HALF THE JF-17 PRICE. TRUTH OF MATTER IS HOLIDAY WITH SHEIKHS IS FINALLY OVER, YOU MAY THANK IMRAN KHAN FOR THAT.
 

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There is talk that lately-appointed Chief of General Staff of the Pakistani Army General Qamar Javed Bajwa intends to reactivate contacts with the UAE
Can you expand on this a bit?
I wonder how Bajwa can neutralize foreign office mess, and the the one Imran Khan created with his back stabbing OIC!
 

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Not sure if Qatar has pilots for their M2Ks after all the aircraft they are inducting. Could be a potential JF-17 buyer, but Saudi would probably block it. They have to be sold politically, with guarantees of military support.

M2Ks could be payment for services / purchases.
 

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Not sure if Qatar has pilots for their M2Ks after all the aircraft they are inducting. Could be a potential JF-17 buyer, but Saudi would probably block it. They have to be sold politically, with guarantees of military support.

M2Ks could be payment for services / purchases.
Qatar operates latest F-15 variant, Eurofighter typhoon, Rafale and Mirage. The chance for Qatar buying JF-17 is slim. Why would Saudi Arabia block the deal and why would Pakistan listen to Saudi Arabia when conducting business? Qatar is like the size of Al-Khobar city if not smaller. If things go south, Qatar will get spanked without military involvement.
 

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Qatar operates latest F-15 variant, Eurofighter typhoon, Rafale and Mirage. The chance for Qatar buying JF-17 is slim. Why would Saudi Arabia block the deal and why would Pakistan listen to Saudi Arabia when conducting business? Qatar is like the size of Al-Khobar city if not smaller. If things go south, Qatar will get spanked without military involvement.
Is timmy still hiding in the Seychelles or is he back? Sooner or later Hamad bin Jassim will take over.
 

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Is timmy still hiding in the Seychelles or is he back? Sooner or later Hamad bin Jassim will take over.
He is in the Maldives now. Not confirmed but mostly true. He is not coming back until after COVID-19 pandemic in Qatar is over.
 

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THERE LOOKS NO SIGNS THAT PAKISTAN IS INTRESTED M2K ANY MORE BCZ MORE OPTIONS ARE IN HANDS NOW AND IF YOUR POCKET IS FULL YOU CAN PROCURE ITEMS OF UR CHOICE.IN MY HUMBLE OPINION US AND CHINA ARE MOST POSSIBLE SOURCES FROM WHERE PAKISTAN CAN PURCHASE ITEMS OF HER INTREST VIA CSF AND CREDIT LINE RESPECTIVELY.M2K NO DOUBT IS BEST BUT WE MISSED A GOLDEN CHANCE TO CATCH THAT TRAIN LONG AGO.
Please avoid using all caps when posting. Thank you.
 
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