Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[Zeeman]

And that’s why Pakistan wants old aircrafts and upgrade all ASAP to make waiting room for newer arrivals :

 

[Zeeman]

Eight jets for Bulgaria for $5.1 billion.... this must be a mistake ....
And $8 billion for 66 Taiwanese aircrafts ...

 

[Khafee]

Eight jets for Bulgaria for $5.1 billion.... this must be a mistake ....
And $8 billion for 66 Taiwanese aircrafts ...

All these numbers are deliberately fudged. To hide, actual price, kickbacks, political cost, support cost, logistic cost, training cost.

This contract price from DoD to Lockheed shows a per unit price of US$70m. With the multiyear, multi unit buy, this per unit price should come down.

Bahrain's new F16 Blk70

Bahrain currently operates 20 F16 Blk40's. These will be upgraded to Blk70specs, and will be joined by 16 new units. Blk40 New Blk70

world-defense.com

 

[Scorpio]

And that’s why Pakistan wants old aircrafts and upgrade all ASAP to make waiting room for newer arrivals :

Then Pakistan should consider additional option of other mediums plateform in addition to f16

 

[Gripen9]

Eight jets for Bulgaria for $5.1 billion.... this must be a mistake ....
And $8 billion for 66 Taiwanese aircrafts ...

Bulgarian ‘Vipers’ contracted Lockheed Martin has been awarded a US$512m contract to deliver eight F-16V Block 70 jets to Bulgaria. The Foreign Military Sales contract, announced on April 2, is part of a procurement and support package expected to be worth around US$1.3bn.
Source: Airforces Monthly June,2020

 

[Scorpio]

@Khafee @Gripen9 @Zeeman
Whats you opinion about few New Mig 35 along few mig 29m

 

[Khafee]

@Khafee @Gripen9 @Zeeman
Whats you opinion about few New Mig 35 along few mig 29m

What is it is availability rate?

 

[Hawkeye]

@Khafee @Gripen9 @Zeeman
Whats you opinion about few New Mig 35 along few mig 29m

For PAF?

 

[Zeeman]

Busy with work but in the above F16 report Bulgaria is replacing Mig29. There is nothing Mig29 offers which we cannot match with JF17 plus JF 17 is way more reliable and cheaper to buy and operate.
I have read a few publications where mig29 and JF17 are placed together as competitors in the same category and JF17 was praised as a cheaper and more advanced in terms of avionics.

Mig 35 is an improvement but still with two engines it will cost more and Russians always exaggerate their capabilities ....

I won’t buy Russian no matter what they promise....

 

[Gripen9]

@Khafee @Gripen9 @Zeeman
Whats you opinion about few New Mig 35 along few mig 29m

We are not the Egyptian AF that will induct 20 different platforms simultaneously

Russians are notorious for providing spare parts or maintenance. And this will be a totally alien aircraft except the Rd-33 engine.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

We are not the Egyptian AF that will induct 20 different platforms simultaneously

What?! Everyone loves a buffet!

 

[Scorpio]

Busy with work but in the above F16 report Bulgaria is replacing Mig29. There is nothing Mig29 offers which we cannot match with JF17 plus JF 17 is way more reliable and cheaper to buy and operate.
I have read a few publications where mig29 and JF17 are placed together as competitors in the same category and JF17 was praised as a cheaper and more advanced in terms of avionics.

Mig 35 is an improvement but still with two engines it will cost more and Russians always exaggerate their capabilities ....

I won’t buy Russian no matter what they promise....

Sir i used Mig 29M not mig 29 , mig 29m/m2 are quite similar to mig 35

 

[Scorpio]

What is it is availability rate?

Dont know but must better as very less order are for Migs most order are for yak 130 and su35 and Migs 35 cost less then f16

Mig 35 can be available early as no product load, secondly thay busy on Mig 41 (6th generation) ...which can br future

 

[Scorpio]

We are not the Egyptian AF that will induct 20 different platforms simultaneously

Russians are notorious for providing spare parts or maintenance. And this will be a totally alien aircraft except the Rd-33 engine.

Solid point of view, but my point that

Thunder block 3, already late still just one test of prototype

New F16 seem more the decade away for inductions

Project may take dacade and half to fly prototype (if lucky)

Then what we going to do till ten, fly shadi wally video drones?

 

[Zeeman]

The best scenario remains that we upgrade our existing fleet to Block 70 standard... it will be a rather quick job possible within a year or two. Turks can help us do the job quickly. I know for sure Pakistan is very hesitant to send their F16s to the US because of the fear of embargo.
But the million dollar question is why would Americans in deep economic trouble and bad relationship with Turks will allow any such modifications to take place there ....

that means we must send planes to the USA and that it self is a scary thought....