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Elaborate Zeeman bro....



Alright so after Indian did their surgical strike and made all kinds of wild claims I was miserable. I swear for the first time I felt I was going to get panic attack or something. My friend's wife who is Turkish kept repeating that Pakistan must attack back NOW. We were like yeah she has Ottomen blood and she thinks its that easy to attack back when the enemy is expecting and ready.

I think it was around 3 am when my phone rang and my friend who is ex PAF living here told me screaming to turn the TV on and watch. I was in disbelief what had happened. And things got better and better when the pilot was captured and they shot their own helicopter.
My friend kept sending me screen shots of his chatline with ex and serving PAF reporting live. The first message that came straight out of Air headquarters was that we got a Mirage 2000 and a Mig. Everyone was celebrating and I also read that two pilots are captured. After an hour someone posted that all communication devices are immediately banned and very strict monitoring is taking place so shut down the devices ASAP.
That was it. Didn't hear any more.
 

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You know what is strange the night (time in Canada) when the fight was taking place I was getting screen shots from my friend who was talking to people in the air head quarter. (All PAF guys) . I received messages that a Mig and Mirage 2000 were shot down. Their chat line was shut down an hour later so I don't know what happened or changed after that initial report.
exactly! if people could remember, initially there was no talk of Su30 at all....but was about Mig21 and M2K only...........heck there was a leak call too in which that PAF engineer also said that a M2K has been shot down.
 

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Now let me tell you guys the real and actual news of why IK was warmly received in US as well as why his son in law and daughter were specially too keen to meet IK through Zulfi Bukhari n Co. in US.

No matter Corona, or global politics or new world order, PAKISTAN WILL GET F16S, AH1Z, C130J-30 ETC ETC......heck Pakistan could have gotten the Nimitz class A/C, and Seawolf SSNs or even F22/F35s as well if we had demanded them in exchange of those multiple pilots.

But Pakistan it seems herself settle for mere f16s, zulus and C130s etc, these 3 will be KSA funded and when delivered Pakistan will handover pilots to KSA from where they will go home.

THIS IS THE REAL DEAL! Afghan taliban peace deal etc is a smokescreen.........at best through that deal Pakistan may clear herself from FATF.

Another problem is that im no longer able to locate those pilots whereabouts from the last 3-4 months so this gives suspicion in my mind that either they have been returned or relocated from their previous facility......

Some of the info i shared came from those who interrogated them, however they were never tortured. That also explains the reason for the increasing israeli interest in Pakistan since past 1 year, eg. that whatsapp virus we caught in imran khan and high ranking military official's mobile phones in summer last year and was conformed by china till later last year in october that it was send by Israeli NSO group(firm) operated by ex MOSSADi operatives who r known for proficient mobile phone/electronic surveillance ie I-phone.......

Even British and Israeli media had reported it.
 
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But Pakistan it seems herself settle for mere f16s, zulus and C130s etc, these 3 will be KSA funded and when delivered Pakistan will handover pilots to KSA from where they will go home.
As far as I know these goodies are coming because of the money owed to us by USA, CSF
 

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sir respectfully i think your doing a mistake, im an azad kashmiri and from military background!

i have personally conformed this from the people of that village where abhinandan had crashed!

there were multiple pilots captured, one was a sikh who died in CMH other was a Gora who had fallen in a rocky ditch and broke his back! that gora has an israeli national and was subconscious when villagers discovered him.

In other places there were other foreign pilots too who were found by night time of 27 feb. Hence there were a total 4x pilots under captivity, they were involved in 26 feb balakot bombings as well as were on CAP duty on 27 feb morning.......They were flying M2K.

This info was given in PDF by a professional member called TPS-77........

The reason why i showed u this media source was to give u a source that too of former CAS Sohail Aman, so that my post in your eyes have some weightage as u didnt reply me before.

Even if u do not believe my post, u will still not deny that Daal main kuch kala ha! given the high ranking post you had and level of experience u have.
TPS-43 got an upgrade to newer model I guess.
 

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As far as I know these goodies are coming because of the money owed to us by USA, CSF
like i said, smoke screen! F16s r not coming through CSF, its conformed.......rest of the equipment maybe, but i repeat JUST MAYBE!!!
 
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Alright so after Indian did their surgical strike and made all kinds of wild claims I was miserable. I swear for the first time I felt I was going to get panic attack or something. My friend's wife who is Turkish kept repeating that Pakistan must attack back NOW. We were like yeah she has Ottomen blood and she thinks its that easy to attack back when the enemy is expecting and ready.

I think it was around 3 am when my phone rang and my friend who is ex PAF living here told me screaming to turn the TV on and watch. I was in disbelief what had happened. And things got better and better when the pilot was captured and they shot their own helicopter.
My friend kept sending me screen shots of his chatline with ex and serving PAF reporting live. The first message that came straight out of Air headquarters was that we got a Mirage 2000 and a Mig. Everyone was celebrating and I also read that two pilots are captured. After an hour someone posted that all communication devices are immediately banned and very strict monitoring is taking place so shut down the devices ASAP.
That was it. Didn't hear any more.
Zeeman bro I have great respect for you and have no reason you doubt your account here. Could it be that the M2K was just fog of war, people in the control room got excited.....Why would PAF not announce the M2k shootout when they did not hide the SU-30 account.
 

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Now let me tell you guys the real and actual news of why IK was warmly received in US as well as why his son in law and daughter were specially too keen to meet IK through Zulfi Bukhari n Co. in US.

No matter Corona, or global politics or new world order, PAKISTAN WILL GET F16S, AH1Z, C130J-30 ETC ETC......heck Pakistan could have gotten the Nimitz class A/C, and Seawolf SSNs or even F22/F35s as well if we had demanded them in exchange of those multiple pilots.

But Pakistan it seems herself settle for mere f16s, zulus and C130s etc, these 3 will be KSA funded and when delivered Pakistan will handover pilots to KSA from where they will go home.

THIS IS THE REAL DEAL! Afghan taliban peace deal etc is a smokescreen.........at best through that deal Pakistan may clear herself from FATF.

Another problem is that im no longer able to locate those pilots whereabouts from the last 3-4 months so this gives suspicion in mind my mind that either they have been returned or relocated from their previous facility......

Some of the info i shared came from those who interrogated them, however they were never tortured. That also explains the reason for the increasing israeli interest in Pakistan since past 1 year, eg. that whatsapp virus we caught in imran khan and high ranking military official's mobile phones in summer last year and was conformed by china uptill october that it was send by Israeli NSO group(firm) operated by ex MOSSADi operatives who r known for proficient mobile phone/electronic surveillance ie I-phone.......

Even British and Israeli media had reported it.


I wish this was all true but I firmly believe nothing like what you wrote ever happened. Sorry this is my personal opinion based on the evidence available. I wasn't there so I could be wrong.

That said I think we have a great opportunity to completely transform our forces. Chinese at this point will be willing to give us anything on our wish list. We must be careful though. We don't again want to become pawn in the fight of two giants.

India is just an insignificant actor in this great game between the USA and China. They were stupid enough to agree to American wish to join their camp. Give them 20 years and Americans will leave them worse than us. After all they are asking them to pick a direct fight with China. This will not be fought on the territory of a third country but on their own land with their largest trading partner and a major investor.

Interesting times ahead. Pakistan must immediately start working on expanding our naval presence with more frigates and destroyer. Chine would want this. They want us to divert as many resources of Indian Navy away from them and towards us. We need to procure J15 which would be on top of my list. Suddenly entire Indian coast line will be exposed to our planes.
 

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Zeeman bro I have great respect for you and have no reason you doubt your account here. Could it be that the M2K was just fog of war, people in the control room got excited.....Why would PAF not announce the M2k shootout when they did not hide the SU-30 account.


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If I remember correctly even ARY was reporting Mirage 2000 destroyed but much later they changed it to Su30. I don't know what the reason was but people in command definitely know what they shot at and destroyed
 

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@ali razza Fire up Kali - you know what to do!
Alice Wells had said a few months ago before her retirement that ''In Pakistan its very very hard to keep the information secret, their culture is such that information gets leaked ALWAYS!''

Wonder in what context she said this...........;)

The biggest evidence is those villagers of Bhimber AJK where those all pilots fell....including abhinandan.
 
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I wish this was all true but I firmly believe nothing like what you wrote ever happened. Sorry this is my personal opinion based on the evidence available. I wasn't there so I could be wrong.

That said I think we have a great opportunity to completely transform our forces. Chinese at this point will be willing to give us anything on our wish list. We must be careful though. We don't again want to become pawn in the fight of two giants.

India is just an insignificant actor in this great game between the USA and China. They were stupid enough to agree to American wish to join their camp. Give them 20 years and Americans will leave them worse than us. After all they are asking them to pick a direct fight with China. This will not be fought on the territory of a third country but on their own land with their largest trading partner and a major investor.

Interesting times ahead. Pakistan must immediately start working on expanding our naval presence with more frigates and destroyer. Chine would want this. They want us to divert as many resources of Indian Navy away from them and towards us. We need to procure J15 which would be on top of my list. Suddenly entire Indian coast line will be exposed to our planes.
thats up to the Pakistani establishment...............and frankly i have no high hopes from Bajwa and Faiz Hameed..........these both r too innocent goodie goodie type guys...........we need somebody like Gen Zia, Akhtar Abdul Rehman, Gen Hameed Gul or gen Asad Durrani types in high command in large numbers.........its just luck that favors them but eventually that will run out.

We need equally Ayyar and chalaq guys at the top(like these yahoodis) and sadly there is none in all these corp commander level positions. Yee saari Bheegi Billian hain!

Anyways i was talking about whats going on with these F16s saga, and thats the real and actual story behind it. Lets just focus on that for now.
 
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@Zeeman as for what i said, its not too hard to conform this all....sirf bhimber AJK ka chakar he laga lena kabhi or local sy puch kar uss village main punch jana jahan ye pilots millay the...........

Baqi wo log tumhe khud he proudly bta dain gy!
 

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Zeeman bro I have great respect for you and have no reason you doubt your account here. Could it be that the M2K was just fog of war, people in the control room got excited.....Why would PAF not announce the M2k shootout when they did not hide the SU-30 account.
u really do wanna know why they didnt announced about M2K?

its not very hard to guess BTW..........
 
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