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In 2015 Pakistan Army finally had some realization that they can't stick to HK G3 and Type 56 forever. So they started Rifle trials in which initially 5 Rifles came for trials which were :

FN SCAR
Berreta ARX 200
CZ BREN 807
AK 103
And one Serbian Gun

Than after sometime several more companies joined the trials which included Turkish MPT 76 and various other Rifles. Trials took for around 2 years but since than totally no news. We get to hear of some talks but since 2015 nothing is happening. So for GOD sake if anyone here has contacts in Military High Ranks please find out for how many decades Pakistan wants to stick with HK G3 and Type 56.

@Khafee @Pakhtoon yum @Scorpio @Counter-Errorist @BLACKEAGLE and others @Path-Finder
 

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Honestly I agree with zarvan on this issue. I dont know why people hassle him when he stresses this. It's usually basic things like these that have larger consequences in a conflict because thousands of men will get upgraded. Plz start a new thread on this

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Get tooling from Europe / Turkey / China and build your own gun copying the basic MPT 76 and any minor features of the other guns.

Mission accomplished.
 

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Get tooling from Europe / Turkey / China and build your own gun copying the basic MPT 76 and any minor features of the other guns.

Mission accomplished.
Ahh yes, but where are the loops and curves? Pakistan likes to tango around decisions before it trips and falls on top of one.
 

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IWI’s New Assault Rifles – ARAD and CARMEL to be Manufactured in India soon



The newly developed assault rifles ARAD and CARMEL by IWI will foray into the Indian market soon. Israel Weapon Industries joint venture partner PLR Systems is set to manufacture the new weapons developed in Israel
July 8, 2020EditorDefence Industry
By Arie Egozi
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The joint venture between Israeli company IWI and Indian company PLR Systems is set to manufacture the new weapons developed in Israel. In 2017, Indian conglomerate PLR Systems and its JV Partner, Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) inaugurated India’s first private sector small arms manufacturing plant at Malanpur in Madhya Pradesh. The joint venture company, PLR Systems is manufacturing small arms for the Indian Defence Forces as well as for export. The plant is currently manufacturing the IWI TAVOR 7.62×51 assault rifle.

The Israeli company in recent years developed two new assault rifles – the Arad and the Carmel.

The Israeli company says that the ARAD is designed for Infantry use, special units. The rifle can be changed easily to shoot two different caliber bullets – 5.56 and 300 BLK.

IWI ARAD is equipped with a picatinny rail to enable the use of a variety of optics and other attachments. The picatinny rail is an integral part of the upper receiver of the rifle. In addition, M-LOK rails at the 3, 6 and 9 o’clock positions along the hand guard. It includes a telescopic butt stock which allows the users to adjust the length individually for their particular needs.

According to IWI, the ARAD is designed to address the needs of Special Forces as well as the various infantry forces. It includes several advanced features that enable operational flexibility. Fully ambidextrous, the rifle consists of a short-stroke gas piston with a gas regulator in two or 3 positions, which allows constant operation in all environmental conditions. A two-step enhanced trigger ensures both comfort and shooting accuracy.

ARAD’s additional features include a hard-anodized monolithic aluminium MIL-STD 1913 rail in the upper receiver. The lightweight ARAD, weighing only 2.85 kg, is available with barrel lengths of 292mm (11.5”) and 368mm (14.5”) and will soon be offered with barrel lengths of 419 mm (16.5″) and 508 mm (20″). The 300 BLK version comes with a 9.5 “barrel. The ARAD will also soon be available in additional calibers.

The company has also developed the CARMEL ‒ a multi-purpose, modular, 5.56X45mm caliber assault rifle for modern warfare, ideal for maneuvers between different combat zones and for extended combat duration ‒ which has been supplied to many customers around the world.

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The company says that the CARMEL is designed for minimum operator and armorer level maintenance. The CARMEL can be fired with folded stock. It has adjustable cheek rest.

The CARMEL is a fully ambidextrous weapon: Safety Lever, Magazine Release, Bolt Catch, non-reciprocating charging handle that can be easily changed from side to side within seconds by the user. It also has an enlarged trigger guard for easier access for glove use.

The new rifles are offered now to many armed forces and according to the Israeli company the Indian plant can manufacture both.

– The author is an Israel-based freelance writer. He has served in Israel Defense Forces.

https://www.raksha-anirveda.com/iwi...-and-carmel-to-be-manufactured-in-india-soon/
 

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US is already moving to a new rifle and a new caliber. Contrary to widely held opinion, it is not the 6.8SPC (6.8x43), but its 6.8x?? yet to be revealed. Supposedly, new types of casing using carbon fiber are being tested.

Was just doing some calculations last night. 6.8 is half way between 5.56 and 7.62. While 48 is half way between 45 and 51. Could the new rifle caliber be 6.8x48?
 

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yera! check those new POF weapons shown on Pak China friendship center in islamabad. its i think called PK18 and PK16

battle rifle is based on AR 200 and SMG is that AK103
 

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Here's the thing that Zarvan does not understand

While a gun may look like a very important piece of equipment for a soldier, look sexy or deadly or lethal as it is commonly referred to, its real impact on the outcome of full-blown war is not more than a couple of thousand more dead enemy soldiers or a couple of thousand less our Shaheeds, which when looked at the bigger picture is not that significant and probably not even a consideration in the war planning from the perspective of achieving our objectives or denying the enemy their objectives.

We are talking about replacing a million pieces at a minimum of 1,000 bucks a piece translating it to an outlay of a billion dollars over a decade. The same amount spent on the acquisition of a potent aerial system can be a real game-changer that can actually impact the outcome of the war or more importantly act as a deterrent to not let it happen in the first place thus saving more lives and destruction.

Now, I am not saying that PA does not need an update to the equipment, but I am totally against spending that kind of money on imported stuff. We can achieve the same or better results with inhouse design, development and manufacturing. POF needs to hire just a couple of good engineers experienced in designing assault rifles, pay them more than the market salary, attach our own engineers with them to learn and develop the skillset and do it inhouse.

Don't buy the fish, buy the fishing equipment and learn to fish and never sleep hungry.
 
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Here's the thing that Zarvan does not understand

While a gun may look like a very important piece of equipment for a soldier, look sexy or deadly or lethal as it is commonly referred to, its real impact on the outcome of full-blown war is not more than a couple of thousand more dead enemy soldiers or a couple of thousand less our Shaheeds, which when looked at the bigger picture is not that significant and probably not even a consideration in the war planning from the perspective of achieving our objectives or denying the enemy their objectives.

We are talking about replacing a million pieces at a minimum of 1,000 bucks a piece translating it to an outlay of a billion dollars over a decade. The same amount spent on the acquisition of a potent aerial system can be a real game-changer that can actually impact the outcome of the war or more importantly act as a deterrent to not let it happen in the first place thus saving more lives and destruction.

Now, I am not saying that PA does not need an update to the equipment, but I am totally against spending that kind of money on imported stuff. We can achieve the same or better results with inhouse design, development and manufacturing. POF needs to hire just a couple of good engineers experienced in designing assault rifles, pay them more than the market salary, attach our own engineers with them to learn and develop the skillset and do it inhouse.

Don't buy the fish, buy the fishing equipment and learn to fish and never sleep hungry
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I fully agree with this...it would be a major waste of resources for Pakistan to outright buy firearms. Pakistan can make its own pistols, assault rifles, machines guns, sniper rifles, etc...
...all it needs to do is some R&D(whether by using outside help or domestic...it doesn't matter).
 

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