MBS has not commented on the issue concerning the Uighur period. Anti-Saudi media led by Erdogan and MB started this, just like how Erdogan said yesterday Saudi Arabia pressured Pakistan to withdraw form the summit or else it would take economic measures! You can tell the difference between the article published by the Xinhua and the rest of the links. Typical anti-Saudi media especially those posted by UK media which are controlled by anti-Saudi elements to turn Muslims against Saudi Arabia. You fell for it, I did not.
With all due respect, it is quite clear what he's talking about when he mentioned anti-extremism and de-radicalisation. He doesn't need to mention uighurs specifically for the statement to be aimed at them. Look at this way, you hadn't read the articles at the beginning of our conversation but as soon as uighur topic started, you instantly used similar language against the uighurs. MBS was hardly talking about tibetans when he made such a statement. It's pretty obvious what MBS was supporting when talked about anti-extremism or de-radicalisation. China regularly defends it's oppression of uighurs using such language.
The media may well be anti-saudi but they are not at fault here. They are simply adding 1+1. If anything, you need to blame the chinese as I've said before and then MBS for making the statement or not denying it.
I am not defending anyone here.
You are though bro. You've literally gone out of your way to make excuses for their behaviour. I'm not saying you're knowingly defending oppression of Muslims but you have without a doubt defended China.
I am basically saying there is an anti-China propaganda amid at using Muslims again and again as cannon fodder. For God's sake we should not be the victims again. You are not seeing the big picture here. You are being too emotional that's all.
It isn't propaganda, it's the truth. And no Muslims are being as cannon fodder here because most of us live far away from China. The only Muslims who are literal cannon fodder in this situation are the uighurs.
Bro I am not emotional lol. I know when my anger gets the better of me and I have certainly not lost control in this conversation. I'm sorry but accusing someone of being emotional is just a way to divert attention from the issue or aim a personal dig at their integrity so that people take them less seriously.
Any issues concerning Muslims have to be discussed in the OIC. You and I or anyone else have little to say in this matter.
Today the motion to investigate the repression of Uighur in the Turkish Parliament was rejected by Erdogan's party, why? He does not want to get into trouble with China or jeopardize his business with China or he can not substantiate his claims regarding the Uighurs but he has no issues throwing other Islamic countries in the front-lines or bring the Uighurs to fight the kurds on his behalf.
Bro why are you bringing Turkey into the debate constantly? I have never acted as if they are a perfect nation and neither do I think Erdogan is a perfect leader. Turkey is irrelevant here because we are discussing your countries behaviour. I feel as if you hate Turks so much that it blinds your judgement. This isn't the first time you've randomly blamed something on turkey in this conversation. Like fine, if turkey did that then they are the same as saudi. They ignored uighur suffering for some dollars. But this conversation specifically is about Saudi arabia.
]The Uighur have an armed wing inside China hoping to create an East Turkestan. Its an old movement you may have not heard of but that is a fact. Here is when you shove religion into politics, it becomes dangerous.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
Like I said, you are using a minority to argue that it's okay to oppress 100,000s of uighurs. You argue like this today but tomorrow remember that saudi has produced far more terrorists than the uighur people, maybe tomorrow someone will invade and oppress you and use the same excuse. You are literally using the "these guys are terrorists..." narrative used by America in the 'war on terror' against fellow Muslims.
As I said, I am not defending China, if you want to fight the Chinese please be my guest. But please abstain from accusing Saudi Arabia, its leaders or its people for what is happening to Muslims around the world.
Bro you're on here throwing the same accusations at other Muslim countries so why should we not call out saudi arabia for it's wrongdoing? Like I'm sorry if you personally do not like that but Saudi Arabia is just another country, we are free to criticise it for it's wrongdoing. I regularly criticise even my own country so why would I be quiet about another country?
I defend you guys plenty anyway so it's not like all I do is criticise.
There are 56 Islamic countries accounted for 24% of world population I am sure if they were to take a collective measure they will be able to address any issues related to Muslims worldwide. Instead of creating a mini summit which contributes to nothing but create a division within the Islamic world.
Islamic countries for the most part are either toothless or ruled by awful men. So many wars in our lands by invaders and they haven't done anything. We both know that it is very unlikely for them to solve any major problem.
If Turkey or Malaysia or Qatar are so concerned about the Islamic world they would have set an example by cutting ties with Israel, stop feeding terrorists in Syria and in Libya, call for a OIC meeting and provide a road map to end the suffering within the Muslim world. Turkey has strong economic relation with Israel, a military coordination and arms deals. They can take the first step by cutting ties with Israel and China.
Saudi Arabia does exactly the same things as Turkey, Malaysia or Qatar bro. The criticism you levy at them like the Israel thing can be levied at most gulf arab states. Sure criticise them if you want but look at your for improvements too.
You should ask yourself a question to why China is doing what is doing. Muslims have been living in China for ages in peace and tranquility. So I say China has the right regardless of my opinion to protect its national security just like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or anyone else does.
You said this already and I answered it about 2 weeks ago.
If that is how you feel bro well then that's on you. I have done my part and tried to show you what you are doing is wrong. I can't really do much more.
I am not finished but its time to go to bed, its midnight and a few hrs left before fajir.
Don't worry bro, take your time with replies, I am in no rush and I don't mind late replies.
