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Top Indian General in occupied Kashmir criticises his own Army Chief war strategy
1 Mar, 2018







*CHANDIGARH*: Arguing for a greater role of military diplomacy to bring normalcy in relations with Pakistan, Lieutenant General Surinder Singh, the General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Western Command, said that a two-front war is not a “smart idea”.
The two front idea was given by the Indian Army Chief General Bipin Rawat.

Speaking on the concluding day of a seminar on “Geo-strategic manifestations in Pakistan and Implications for India” at Punjab University here, Lt Gen Singh said India needed to improve relations with China in order to gain the best possible leverage over Pakistan.
“It will also help us secure one side of the border. People keep talking about a two-front war. It is never a good idea, never a smart idea to fight a two-front war,” he said. He added that there were various options, including re-negotiating some treaties, to bring about some pressure on Pakistan.

“In Pakistan, military’s writ runs. Therefore, sooner or later, we have to talk to their military. I am convinced that on our side also, military diplomacy plays a very important role.

Therefore, there has to be a greater role to military diplomacy so that the militaries of the two nations can work with each other and bring about greater confidence in each other and we can go forward,” he said.

Referring to China, the army commander said the relations were manageable. “There is not that sort of enmity, from people to people or from entire polity on one side and the polity on the other side. There are differences on demarcation of borders. I think this can be worked out.
If we can improve our relations with China, we can develop the best possible leverage with Pakistan in times to come,” Lt Gen Singh added. “Working with China will secure one side of border,” he said.
The general also emphasised that Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence had reduced the window for conventional conflict.
“You can only push them conventionally to a limit and not beyond that. And no nuclear nation can be browbeaten beyond a particular stage. It is for that nation to lay down the red lines as to what is the limit of the punishment they will take,” he said.
Referring to the possibility of a conventional conflict with Pakistan, Lt Gen Singh said, “Sometimes, conventional conflict does not take place because you can achieve any great military objective but because at times you can get pushed into the conflict due to public opinion. Therefore, sometimes it becomes the case of tail wagging the dog.” - Agencies

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Top Indian General in occupied Kashmir criticises his own Army Chief war strategy
1 Mar, 2018







*CHANDIGARH*: Arguing for a greater role of military diplomacy to bring normalcy in relations with Pakistan, Lieutenant General Surinder Singh, the General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Western Command, said that a two-front war is not a “smart idea”.
The two front idea was given by the Indian Army Chief General Bipin Rawat.

Speaking on the concluding day of a seminar on “Geo-strategic manifestations in Pakistan and Implications for India” at Punjab University here, Lt Gen Singh said India needed to improve relations with China in order to gain the best possible leverage over Pakistan.
“It will also help us secure one side of the border. People keep talking about a two-front war. It is never a good idea, never a smart idea to fight a two-front war,” he said. He added that there were various options, including re-negotiating some treaties, to bring about some pressure on Pakistan.

“In Pakistan, military’s writ runs. Therefore, sooner or later, we have to talk to their military. I am convinced that on our side also, military diplomacy plays a very important role.

Therefore, there has to be a greater role to military diplomacy so that the militaries of the two nations can work with each other and bring about greater confidence in each other and we can go forward,” he said.

Referring to China, the army commander said the relations were manageable. “There is not that sort of enmity, from people to people or from entire polity on one side and the polity on the other side. There are differences on demarcation of borders. I think this can be worked out.
If we can improve our relations with China, we can develop the best possible leverage with Pakistan in times to come,” Lt Gen Singh added. “Working with China will secure one side of border,” he said.
The general also emphasised that Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence had reduced the window for conventional conflict.
“You can only push them conventionally to a limit and not beyond that. And no nuclear nation can be browbeaten beyond a particular stage. It is for that nation to lay down the red lines as to what is the limit of the punishment they will take,” he said.
Referring to the possibility of a conventional conflict with Pakistan, Lt Gen Singh said, “Sometimes, conventional conflict does not take place because you can achieve any great military objective but because at times you can get pushed into the conflict due to public opinion. Therefore, sometimes it becomes the case of tail wagging the dog.” - Agencies

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Lieutenant General Surinder Singh, makes a lot of sense, hope people actually listen to him. @Joe Shearer are you one of his advisers?
 

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Top Indian General in occupied Kashmir criticises his own Army Chief war strategy
1 Mar, 2018







*CHANDIGARH*: Arguing for a greater role of military diplomacy to bring normalcy in relations with Pakistan, Lieutenant General Surinder Singh, the General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Western Command, said that a two-front war is not a “smart idea”.
The two front idea was given by the Indian Army Chief General Bipin Rawat.

Speaking on the concluding day of a seminar on “Geo-strategic manifestations in Pakistan and Implications for India” at Punjab University here, Lt Gen Singh said India needed to improve relations with China in order to gain the best possible leverage over Pakistan.
“It will also help us secure one side of the border. People keep talking about a two-front war. It is never a good idea, never a smart idea to fight a two-front war,” he said. He added that there were various options, including re-negotiating some treaties, to bring about some pressure on Pakistan.

“In Pakistan, military’s writ runs. Therefore, sooner or later, we have to talk to their military. I am convinced that on our side also, military diplomacy plays a very important role.

Therefore, there has to be a greater role to military diplomacy so that the militaries of the two nations can work with each other and bring about greater confidence in each other and we can go forward,” he said.

Referring to China, the army commander said the relations were manageable. “There is not that sort of enmity, from people to people or from entire polity on one side and the polity on the other side. There are differences on demarcation of borders. I think this can be worked out.
If we can improve our relations with China, we can develop the best possible leverage with Pakistan in times to come,” Lt Gen Singh added. “Working with China will secure one side of border,” he said.
The general also emphasised that Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence had reduced the window for conventional conflict.
“You can only push them conventionally to a limit and not beyond that. And no nuclear nation can be browbeaten beyond a particular stage. It is for that nation to lay down the red lines as to what is the limit of the punishment they will take,” he said.
Referring to the possibility of a conventional conflict with Pakistan, Lt Gen Singh said, “Sometimes, conventional conflict does not take place because you can achieve any great military objective but because at times you can get pushed into the conflict due to public opinion. Therefore, sometimes it becomes the case of tail wagging the dog.” - Agencies

https://timesofislamabad.com/01-Mar-2018/top-indian-general-in-occupied-kashmir-criticises-his-own-army-chief-war-strategy?utm_source=push-notification&utm_medium=direct


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That's a logical person right there. Although, I don't think the public opinion will favor any wars with any country.
 

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Lieutenant General Surinder Singh, makes a lot of sense, hope people actually listen to him. @Joe Shearer are you one of his advisers?

...How I wish!

The mood in the military (actually, from Navy sources) is that many servicemen were right wing in a vague, stupid-Congress-what-do-they-think-they're-doing? kind of way, until they actually saw the real right wing at close quarters!

This government has let down servicemen every single way. Count:
  1. The One-Rank-One-Pay resolution that the BJP promised so grandly before the election was fudged, and the servicemen's organisation was infiltrated by pro-BJP officers and diverted, and the servicemen know it.
  2. The defence procurement policy did not improve in the least little bit;
    1. the Army
      1. is waiting for rifles whose butts won't shatter on impact in the field,
      2. whose magazines will stand up to the owner sneezing (OK, that's MILD exaggeration),
      3. it is waiting for at least as many guns as they have to face across the borders, both to the north and to the west,
      4. it is waiting for some clarity about tanks, and what is supposed to happen when, like the Air Force's MiG 21s, a huge number of T90s (not including jbg) have to be retired,
      5. it is waiting for bullet-proof vests, it is waiting for an integration of data gathered electronically, and for a battlefield viewing system,
      6. it is hoping for good, short range missiles, particularly anti-tank missiles, now that Javelin has been cancelled,
      7. it is hoping for a sufficient number of attack helicopters to at least match the number that the Pakistanis have already, leave alone trying to match the Chinese,
      8. it is looking for better communications networks near the border in the east, in Arunachal Pradesh;
    2. the Navy
      1. is looking for more Poseidon aircraft,
      2. is looking for quick decisions on make in india with people who will deliver the goods, especially ship-mounted missiles (several ships have been launched with bare pedestal/mounting points for various kinds of missiles not yet procured or available for mounting),
      3. it is looking to catch up with its neighbours in submarines,
      4. it is looking for a viable two-seas carrier role and for the budgets of vessels and planes for such a role,
      5. it is looking for minesweepers;
    3. the Air Force
      1. has given up hope and is waiting to sell its lives dearly
I didn't have the heart to tabulate the woes of the Air Force.

Over and above all this, serving men's relatives are dying at the hands of extremists, there is ill-natured and lying propaganda obscuring the gallant defence of the country by Muslims, Kashmiri children are beaten up when they go to study outside Kashmir, at the drop of a hat, some obscure, and intellect-challenged BJP man wants people to leave the country, if
  1. They do not sing Vande Mataram;
  2. They do not give up eating beef;
  3. They do not stand in cinema halls for the national anthem, and
  4. a dozen other things too sickening for words
Maybe it is good advice, maybe we should leave the country, whatever our religion.
 
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