The U.S. has formally kicked Turkey out of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program over Ankara’s buying S-400 missile interceptors from Russia | World Defense

The U.S. has formally kicked Turkey out of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program over Ankara’s buying S-400 missile interceptors from Russia

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The U.S. has formally kicked Turkey out of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program over Ankara’s buying S-400 missile interceptors from Russia


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How fast. Turkish Pilots getting training in the US have until 31 of this month to leave. No delivery of already paid for F-35. Very unfortunate is it not!
 

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Turkey can buy S-35S and S-57.

Now F-35s will be delayed and more expensive for all existing customers (cost probably shifts to US for now then reflected in higher unit prices in future).
 

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Are you rating the f-35 on a par with the S-35S and S-57!
Su-57 is more like F-22 than F-35. F-35 works best alongside something like F-22, but F-22 is banned from export.

F-35 vs Su-35s in dogfight = only one winner. F-35 is slow, low range, not manoeuvrable.

"In 2008, two analysts at the RAND Corporation, a California think-tank that works closely with the military, programmed a computer simulation to test out the F-35’s fighting ability in a hypothetical air war with China. The results were startling.

“The F-35 is double-inferior,” John Stillion and Harold Scott Perdue concluded in their written summary of the war game, later leaked to the press. The new plane “can’t turn, can’t climb, can’t run,” they warned." Pentagon’s big budget F-35 fighter ‘can’t turn, can’t climb, can’t run’
 

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Are you rating the f-35 on a par with the S-35S and S-57!
Why are your surprised? |0|

You should be used to #iranian logic by now.
 

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Why are your surprised? |0|

You should be used to #iranian logic by now.
I speak only facts and empirical evidence.

Facts:
1. F-22 banned from export
2. F-35 is slower, less range and less manoeuvrable than Su-35
3. RAND study concluded that F-35 "can't turn, can't climb, can't run"

These are all FACTS. Your factual contributions to this thread are...? Nowhere. Instead, simple racism.
 

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I speak only facts and empirical evidence.

Facts:
1. F-22 banned from export
2. F-35 is slower, less range and less manoeuvrable than Su-35
3. RAND study concluded that F-35 "can't turn, can't climb, can't run"

These are all FACTS. Your factual contributions to this thread are...? Nowhere. Instead, simple racism.
1) Su57 is no where close to F22. Just it's straight engine ducts, and exposed engine nozzles are a dead give away.

2) F35's maneuverability has been debunked many times, Here is a link, that hints at some of its capabilities:

3) Rand study being quoted by you is more than 10yrs old. Forget the F35, even the F16 Blk60 has gotten upgrades in the last decade +.
Nonetheless, the F35 Blk3F flying today has undergone many upgrades in the last one decade.
 

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