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But to maintain qualitative edge of Israel, some changes will have to be made or some arrangements to be done.
Was that done with the Blk60/61's?
 

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Air-to-Air Missiles Program Office hits new milestone


The Air-to-Air Missiles Program Office (PMA-259) International Programs team has reached a first-time Foreign Military Sales (FMS) portfolio value of $3 Billion for 34 countries and two NATO member countries.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE), an existing international partner, finalized an agreement with the U.S. this March to procure the F-35 Lightning II, Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft and requested additional AIM-9X Block II+ missiles for external carriage on the JSF.

The International Programs team’s mission is to foster continuous, long-term international relationships between the U.S. and international partner countries. Their primary international security cooperation focus is on the advanced fifth-generation Infra-red AIM-9X weapon system, the AIM-9X Block I and Block II/II+ Sidewinder missile. Almost 3,000 AIM-9X Block II/II+ missiles have been procured on behalf of 25 countries globally. The FMS team leading the effort has accounted for an average of 267 FMS missiles procured each year since 2012.

“Our team continues to support the advancement of U.S. strategic objectives by establishing and growing key allied partnerships via NAVAIR’s Security Cooperation Program,” said Al Teeney, PMA-259’s deputy program manager for International Programs.

The International Programs team supports all 36 international partners and organizations for all of their inventory requirements and needs. The FMS team is promoting NAVAIR’s Building Partner Capacity goals regarding the AIM-9X missile until its program of record ends in 2035. Until then, the International Programs team plans to hit another monetary milestone and continue expanding its international partnerships at an ever-growing rate.

The PMA-259 International Programs team manages 109 FMS cases and is composed of 25 U.S. civilians as well as 16 contract support specialist personnel.
 

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Concerns over growing ties between UAE and China could impact sale of F-35s: report​

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Growing ties between the United Arab Emirates and China have U.S. officials worried that a $23 billion weapons sale to Abu Dhabi will be impacted.

American spy agencies have tracked new transport flights between the two countries, with China's People's Liberation Army planes landing at an airport in the U.A.E., U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal.

The new movement has the Biden administration worried that Abu Dhabi might allow China to access the United States' latest defense technology should Washington go through with the multi-billion dollar sale of a possible 50 F-35 fighters, 18 Reaper drones and munitions.

Biden administration officials are reportedly now seeking guarantees that the Emirates won't allow other nations to access the technology if it continues with the sale, which the Trump administration negotiated and approved in its final days as part of Abu Dhabi agreeing to normalize relations with Israel.

"The transfer of the F-35-the crown jewel in the U.S. arsenal-implies a degree of Emirati monogamy with Washington," David Schenker, the former assistant secretary of State for near eastern affairs under President Trump, told the Journal. "More work needs to be done before these systems can be transferred," he said.

The U.A.E., meanwhile, sought to alleviate fears by pointing to its "long and consistent track record of protecting U.S. military technology, both in coalitions where we've served alongside the U.S. military and inside the U.A.E. where a broad range of sensitive U.S. military assets have been deployed for many years," according to the Emirati ambassador to the U.S., Yousef Otaiba.

Shortly after taking office, President Biden paused the arms package to review it, but in April decided to move forward, arguing it would be years before the weapons are delivered and therefore there will be enough time to address outstanding concerns.

The F-35s wouldn't be delivered to the U.A.E. until 2027.

But Biden is proceeding with the deal despite most senators from his party voting against it last year.

And in April, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) introduced a bill aimed at restricting the sale of F-35s to the Emirates over "numerous outstanding, unanswered questions about the implications of this sale for U.S. national security, our technology interests, and implications for regional stability."

In the backdrop of the deal is China, which is very likely to build additional overseas military facilities in the U.A.E. as the two countries expand communication, according to a 2020 Pentagon report on China's military plans.

Biden administration officials told the Journal that they are still negotiating the deal's conditions with the Emirati government, and have made requests that Israel maintain its qualitative military edge; that the U.A.E. ensure other countries, in particular China, don't have access to the F-35 and drone technology; and that there be limits on the weapons' use in Yemen and Libya.

"We have a comprehensive security dialogue under way with the U.A.E. where we can and do raise any concerns we have on any issues. That is how we will protect U.S. national security interests across the board," Pentagon spokeswoman Navy Cmdr. Jessica McNulty, said in a statement to the Journal after a delegation of senior White House, Defense Department and State Department officials visited the U.A.E. earlier this month.
 

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Concerns over growing ties between UAE and China could impact sale of F-35s: report​

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Growing ties between the United Arab Emirates and China have U.S. officials worried that a $23 billion weapons sale to Abu Dhabi will be impacted.

American spy agencies have tracked new transport flights between the two countries, with China's People's Liberation Army planes landing at an airport in the U.A.E., U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal.

The new movement has the Biden administration worried that Abu Dhabi might allow China to access the United States' latest defense technology should Washington go through with the multi-billion dollar sale of a possible 50 F-35 fighters, 18 Reaper drones and munitions.

Biden administration officials are reportedly now seeking guarantees that the Emirates won't allow other nations to access the technology if it continues with the sale, which the Trump administration negotiated and approved in its final days as part of Abu Dhabi agreeing to normalize relations with Israel.

"The transfer of the F-35-the crown jewel in the U.S. arsenal-implies a degree of Emirati monogamy with Washington," David Schenker, the former assistant secretary of State for near eastern affairs under President Trump, told the Journal. "More work needs to be done before these systems can be transferred," he said.

The U.A.E., meanwhile, sought to alleviate fears by pointing to its "long and consistent track record of protecting U.S. military technology, both in coalitions where we've served alongside the U.S. military and inside the U.A.E. where a broad range of sensitive U.S. military assets have been deployed for many years," according to the Emirati ambassador to the U.S., Yousef Otaiba.

Shortly after taking office, President Biden paused the arms package to review it, but in April decided to move forward, arguing it would be years before the weapons are delivered and therefore there will be enough time to address outstanding concerns.

The F-35s wouldn't be delivered to the U.A.E. until 2027.

But Biden is proceeding with the deal despite most senators from his party voting against it last year.

And in April, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) introduced a bill aimed at restricting the sale of F-35s to the Emirates over "numerous outstanding, unanswered questions about the implications of this sale for U.S. national security, our technology interests, and implications for regional stability."

In the backdrop of the deal is China, which is very likely to build additional overseas military facilities in the U.A.E. as the two countries expand communication, according to a 2020 Pentagon report on China's military plans.

Biden administration officials told the Journal that they are still negotiating the deal's conditions with the Emirati government, and have made requests that Israel maintain its qualitative military edge; that the U.A.E. ensure other countries, in particular China, don't have access to the F-35 and drone technology; and that there be limits on the weapons' use in Yemen and Libya.

"We have a comprehensive security dialogue under way with the U.A.E. where we can and do raise any concerns we have on any issues. That is how we will protect U.S. national security interests across the board," Pentagon spokeswoman Navy Cmdr. Jessica McNulty, said in a statement to the Journal after a delegation of senior White House, Defense Department and State Department officials visited the U.A.E. earlier this month.
Pressure tactics, since this time UAE is playing hardball (With backup plans in place). They want more control over a prospective F35, than they have over their current Blk61's. THIS is what is driving the zionist lovers nuts.
 

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What's the difference between Blk60 and 61?
The Blk61, has an upgraded radar, exceeding the Blk70/72's APG-83 capabilities, especially in the SAR mode, as well as terrain following. New processors, s/w upgrades, and better mating to IRST.

Besides that the avionics is the same as the Blk 70/72.

The GE engine, gets slight modification increasing its MTBO by approx 1K to 1.5k hrs., and decreasing fuel consumption while maintaining same thrust levels, this increases its range as well.

In laymans langugae, the Blk60 was slightly a step behind Blk70/72, the Blk61 now puts puts it ahead.




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The Blk61, has an upgraded radar, exceeding the Blk70/72's APG-83 capabilities, especially in the SAR mode, as well as terrain following. New processors, s/w upgrades, and better mating to IRST.

Besides that the avionics is the same as the Blk 70/72.

The GE engine, gets slight modification increasing its MTBO by approx 1K to 1.5k hrs., and decreasing fuel consumption while maintaining same thrust levels, this increases its range as well.

In laymans langugae, the Blk60 was slightly a step behind Blk70/72, the Blk61 now puts puts it ahead.



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nobody said the UAE was a bunch of dummies, they are playing hardball, and doing quite well, they will get what they want
 

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The Blk61, has an upgraded radar, exceeding the Blk70/72's APG-83 capabilities, especially in the SAR mode, as well as terrain following. New processors, s/w upgrades, and better mating to IRST.

Besides that the avionics is the same as the Blk 70/72.

The GE engine, gets slight modification increasing its MTBO by approx 1K to 1.5k hrs., and decreasing fuel consumption while maintaining same thrust levels, this increases its range as well.

In laymans langugae, the Blk60 was slightly a step behind Blk70/72, the Blk61 now puts puts it ahead.



The Block-60 carries the powerful APG-80 (AESA), which outperforms the SABR APG-83 (AESA) by around 1.5X in detection ranges.
The only aspect in which the SABR excels over the APG-80 is that it is an even more LPI radar (less detectable in its operations) than the latter.
What radar does the Block-61 carry?
 
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The Block-60 carries the powerful APG-80 (AESA), which outperforms the SABR APG-83 (AESA) by around 1.5X in detection ranges.
The only aspect in which the SABR excels over the APG-80 is that it is an even more LPI radar (less detectable in its operations) than the latter.
What radar does the Block-61 carry?
Upgraded next gen APG-80.

It has been upgraded over the yrs. The latest h/w upgrade was its 3rd or 4th, dont remember.
On the s/w updates, I have lost count.
 

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The Block-60 carries the powerful APG-80 (AESA), which outperforms the SABR APG-83 (AESA) by around 1.5X in detection ranges.
The only aspect in which the SABR excels over the APG-80 is that it is an even more LPI radar (less detectable in its operations) than the latter.
What radar does the Block-61 carry?
Brother, what would you say about liquid cooled, vs air cooled?
 
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