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Only a ground force would defeat ISIS. Since Western governments are unwilling to send troops over to fight the savages, a few Westerners have decided to do what their governments won't do.

Westerners join Kurds fighting Islamic State group in Iraq - Yahoo News
""I decided that if my government wasn't going to do anything to help this country, especially Kurdish people who stood by us for 10 years and helped us out while we were in this country, then I was going to do something."

As Kurdish fighters gathered around a fire in this damp, frigid mountain town in northwestern Iraq, exhausted from battling the Islamic State group, a surprising recruit wearing a tactical vest with the words "Christ is Lord" scribbled on it joined them.

The fighter, with a sniper rifle slung over his shoulder and a Rambo-styled bandanna around his head, is 28-year-old Jordan Matson from Sturtevant, Wisconsin, a former U.S. Army soldier who joined the Kurds to fight the extremist group now holding a third of Iraq and neighboring Syria.

"I'm not going back until the fight is finished and ISIS is crippled," Matson told The Associated Press, using an alternate acronym for the militant group. "I decided that if my government wasn't going to do anything to help this country, especially Kurdish people who stood by us for 10 years and helped us out while we were in this country, then I was going to do something."

Matson and dozens of other Westerners now fight with the Kurds, spurred on by Kurdish social media campaigners and a sense of duty rooted in the 2003-2011 U.S.-led military intervention in Iraq. And while the U.S. and its coalition allies bomb the extremists from the air, Kurds say they hope more Westerners will join them on the ground to fight.

Foreigners joining other people's wars is nothing new, from the French Foreign Legion to the International Brigades of the Spanish Civil War. The Kurds, however, have turned to the Internet to find warriors, creating a Facebook page called "The Lions of Rojava" with the stated aim being to send "terrorists to hell and save humanity."

Matson, three other Americans and an Australian national who spoke to the AP all said they arranged to join Kurdish forces through the Facebook page, run by the People's Protection Units, or YPG, the main Syrian Kurdish militia fighting in northern Syria and Iraq.

They crossed from Turkey into Syria, now in its fourth year of civil war, before later joining a Kurdish offensive sweeping into Iraq last month. They now are based in Sinjar, where stone homes painted green, pink and yellow have been damaged in fighting and are surrounded by sandbags and piles of rubble. Thousands of Yazidi residents fled into the surrounding mountains last year during the Islamic State offensive.

Foreigners like Matson say they are drawn to helping Kurds, Yazidis and other minority ethnic groups caught up in the battle, facing possible destruction at the hand of extremists.

"How many people were sold into slavery or killed just for being part of a different ethnic group or religion?" Matson said. "That's something I am willing to die to defend."
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The other Westerners who talked to the AP spoke on condition of anonymity, fearing the reaction of their families, who didn't know where they were, or possible legal troubles if they make it back home.

So far, the U.S. hasn't banned Americans from fighting with militias against the Islamic State group, though it considers the Turkey-based Kurdish Workers' Party, commonly known as the PKK, a terrorist organization. The PKK has been fighting alongside the YPG in Sinjar and in the Syrian town of Kobani.

Australians are forbidden by law from fighting with any force outside of the Australian national army. Australia was also one of the first countries to criminalize travel to Syria's al-Raqqa province, where the Islamic State group has established the de facto capital of its self-styled caliphate.

The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad had no immediate response to an AP query about Americans fighting with the Kurds.

It's unclear how many foreigners total are fighting with the YPG and other Kurdish forces, though both foreigners and Kurds say there are "dozens."

There's a clear camaraderie among the foreign fighters in Sinjar, who mostly travel in pairs.

A number of YPG fighters, many of them as young as 17, joke and tease their new foreign friends, speaking to them in the local Kurdish dialect.

One fighter, 21-year-old Khalil Oysal from Syria, spends much of his time with the foreigners since he can speak English.

"We learn from them and they learn from us," said Oysal, who American and Australian fighters have nicknamed Bucky. "They speak with us and they like to joke. They share with us many things."

Western fighters in Sinjar say there is a major drive to recruit as many foreigners as possible, especially those with military training, as many of young Kurdish fighters have little or no experience. The young fighters often pick up weapons and ammunition from dead Islamic State militants. They also have no body armor.

Two of the foreign fighters said they had just returned from visiting an American fighter badly wounded in battle. They said another foreign fighter, a Dutch national, was severely wounded in battle in Syria last week.

"You need to know what you're getting into," Matson said. "A lot of times you're going out, you're in a mud hut. ... You have bullets and a blanket, and sometimes you just have bread, but you need to hold the line."
 

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I don't want to be the wet blanket here but although these Westerners seem to have good intentions, I don't see this ending well.
If they are captured by ISIS, they will end up being a nuisance to their governments who may be unwilling or reluctant to give in to ISIS prisoner exchange demands and we might have to watch (god forbid) yet another video of an execution. I'm sure they know the risks but If I were one of them, I would prefer to die on the battle field.
 

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If they are captured by ISIS, they will end up being a nuisance to their governments who may be unwilling or reluctant to give in to ISIS prisoner exchange demands and we might have to watch (god forbid) yet another video of an execution. I'm sure they know the risks but If I were one of them, I would prefer to die on the battle field.
Anyone who willingly walks into danger should be prepared for the worst and MUST be willing to embrace their fate should they be captured. Would they now be reading scripted statements blaming the government for their deaths? Like the Kurds whom they went to help, they should be ready to fight to the last drop of their blood because should they be captured then what they MUST expect is an ignominious death at the hands of ISIS.
 
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I don't want to be the wet blanket here but although these Westerners seem to have good intentions, I don't see this ending well.
If they are captured by ISIS, they will end up being a nuisance to their governments who may be unwilling or reluctant to give in to ISIS prisoner exchange demands and we might have to watch (god forbid) yet another video of an execution. I'm sure they know the risks but If I were one of them, I would prefer to die on the battle field.

These are ex western military personnel, they have no illusions about places like Iraq. Death is always a possibility but seeing as they probably don't live in a dream world where surrended is possible (like many of the local armed forces do) I doubt we will be seeing these western guys caught alive. They know what is coming if that happens.

I support the fact that the governments don't intervene on the ground. It would lead to a lot of western soldiers dead fighting for yet another piece of land that has very little to do with us. However when it's on a voluntary basis then I completely support it, I think it's great that these people stand against the ISIS.
 

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Anyone who willingly walks into danger should be prepared for the worst and MUST be willing to embrace their fate should they be captured. Would they now be reading scripted statements blaming the government for their deaths? Like the Kurds whom they went to help, they should be ready to fight to the last drop of their blood because should they be captured then what they MUST expect is an ignominious death at the hands of ISIS.

I completely agree with this. If you're volunteering, you're essentially giving up your protections and any possibility of your home state from negotiating or dealing with them. I'm sure most of the people volunteering already are aware of this though.

It's interesting to see how every regional conflict seems to always entice thrill seekers wanting to experience war. I guess it's a part of human nature or something.
 
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