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Refer to my post above. I said there are things they do better and things that we need to do to make our society better.

The British killed millions of our own people and muslims around the world yet here you are speaking their language. Do you see your own hypocrisy?

The nazis killed millions and the americans went on to take all their scientific research and professors to improve their own society. I can give countless examples but you choose to take it out of context.
Do you even know how racist they are till today?
 

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Refer to my post above. I said there are things they do better and things that we need to do to make our society better.

The British killed millions of our own people and muslims around the world yet here you are speaking their language. Do you see your own hypocrisy?

The nazis killed millions and the americans went on to take all their scientific research and professors to improve their own society. I can give countless examples but you choose to take it out of context.
Americans stole from the Germans and civilized nation's don't steal...
 

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Do you even know how racist they are till today?
Oh hell ya, they and the Koreans are very racist but still their systems should be copied. Especially their education formats and social development programs. I dont mean import their history and teach that, just the frameworks.
 

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Americans stole from the Germans and civilized nation's don't steal...
Nations have to steal to advance forward otherwise you would have to reinvent the wheel. Most of the Chinese developments are stolen. The same developments that Pakistan is buying off of them. Care to argue more?
 

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Sorry guys my comment started this emotional debate.....

I will try sushi tomorrow .... I will smack my shrimps in the head before eating though .... just so they don’t start moving around in my stomach.
 

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I did say they were more civilized compared to all the muslim countries and the west. Idk what happened to that comment but it's sad when the muslims by name are nothing more then a shell of their past.

Now all muslim countries look like ghettos and trash. Where as the japanese and nordic countries follow the same standards that the muslims had brought. Look at them and look at us. It's really sad.
You're just looking at the beautiful facade they've put up without peering inside.

Japan's the most sexually deviant people on the planet. One of the main reasons for their success is that they're deeply racist. They're a homogenous population with no tolerance for any outsiders (gaijin). So they don't have the same ethnic and racial integration issues most muslim countries face.

Take a look at some of the horrific atrocities they carried out during WW2 to get a glimpse of what they're like when the veil of law and order is removed from the equation - Unit 731 and the Rape of Nanking. Do spend a few minutes googling these two events.
 

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Sorry guys my comment started this emotional debate.....

I will try sushi tomorrow .... I will smack my shrimps in the head before eating though .... just so they don’t start moving around in my stomach.
Imagine you're sitting down to have a nice meal at a fine restaurant and you hear commotion then see this Pakistani guy smacking shrimps on the table yelling Marja Marja Marja Salay!
 

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Sorry guys my comment started this emotional debate.....

I will try sushi tomorrow .... I will smack my shrimps in the head before eating though .... just so they don’t start moving around in my stomach.
This is what you need to do..
 

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Macauley's Minute on Indian Education should be compulsory reading in every school. It shows the exact purpose of transplanting an education system, way of life, thought process, language - to create a class of people that will be racially similar to the population but... let me just quote the goat himself:

Official funds should only be spent on English and Western Education in India to produce a class of persons who would be racially Indian, “But English in taste, in opinions, in morals, and in intellect.” Such people would also be loyal to the British out of recognition of their moral worth.
 

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We are obviously going to look worse after 200 years of colonial rule, siphoning of trillions of dollars worth, and reducing our countries and peoples by British engineered famines. We are still essentially being ruled by the British through the English speaking elite who are more loyal to them than us.
Just look were desis keep their assets, stolen or otherwise (about 400 billion stolen)- UK.

Why not Brazil? Sweden? a 100 other countries... no its UK were all that illegal money goes. And when you take this up, these same people find 101 other excuses or become tone deaf.

BD just opened up our airports, for flights to one country mainly - the UK. wonder wonder why. What is there in the UK?
 

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had hoti ha wese blk 70 brings nothing lol

Watch the interview of the JF-17 project manager - eye opening. He essentially says that JF-17 is better than F-16 as its constantly upgradable while when you buy American, the tech stays at the level they are last willing to upgrade for you. And that the latest Jf-17 is above the F-16 52s.
 

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Watch the interview of the JF-17 project manager - eye opening. He essentially says that JF-17 is better than F-16 as its constantly upgradable while when you buy American, the tech stays at the level they are last willing to upgrade for you. And that the latest Jf-17 is above the F-16 52s.
obviously he would say all bravado stuff which is good
but lets be honest to ourselves
this guy should have made the plane 30% bigger
to hold all future upgrades
we could have said good buy to f16 by now but we r at LM doors why!?
 

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obviously he would say all bravado stuff which is good
but lets be honest to ourselves
this guy should have made the plane 30% bigger
to hold all future upgrades
we could have said good buy to f16 by now but we r at LM doors why!?

I actually understand the point he is making - upgradability in the world of electronics is the difference between life and death for that particular system. I don't think Block 70 will be somehow technologically superior to Block 3

Both have mature AESA systems. Both have sensor fusion (I imagine Block 3 here has the advantage).
AMRAAM C5s vs PL-15 - Blk 3 wins.
HMD HOBS combo - Blk 3 wins.
unstable design - equal
STR - F-16 wins
ITR - JF-17 Blk 3 wins
EW - unknown who wins
Upgradability - Blk 3 wins
Safety from sanctions - do we need to reiterate?
Payload and range - F-16 wins
Costs - 1:3 cost ratio CAPEX
 
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