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Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: 'We're going to be fine'

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LA Times•March 22, 2020


A health worker checks a patient's temperature at a COVID-19 screening station at Watts Health Center. A Stanford Nobel laureate who crunched the numbers predicts the outbreak will result in fewer deaths than many experts have predicted. <span class=copyright>(Irfan Khan/Los Angeles Times)</span>

A health worker checks a patient's temperature at a COVID-19 screening station at Watts Health Center. A Stanford Nobel laureate who crunched the numbers predicts the outbreak will result in fewer deaths than many experts have predicted. (Irfan Khan/Los Angeles Times)
Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.
Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.
While many epidemiologists are warning of months, or even years, of massive social disruption and millions of deaths, Levitt says the data simply don't support such a dire scenario — especially in areas where reasonable social distancing measures are in place.
"What we need is to control the panic," he said. In the grand scheme, "we're going to be fine."
Here's what Levitt noticed in China: On Jan. 31, the country had 46 new deaths due to the novel coronavirus, compared with 42 new deaths the day before.
Although the number of daily deaths had increased, the rate of that increase had begun to ease off. Essentially, although the car was still speeding up, it was not accelerating as rapidly as before.
“This suggests that the rate of increase in number of the deaths will slow down even more over the next week,” Levitt wrote in a report he sent to friends Feb. 1 that was widely shared on Chinese social media. And soon, he predicted, the number of deaths would be decreasing every day.
Three weeks later, Levitt told the China Daily News that the virus' rate of growth had peaked. He predicted that the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in China would end up around 80,000, with about 3,250 deaths.
This forecast turned out to be remarkably accurate: As of March 16, China had counted a total of 80,298 cases and 3,245 deaths — in a nation of nearly 1.4 billion people where roughly 10 million die every year. The number of newly diagnosed patients has dropped to around 25 a day, with no cases of community spread reported since Wednesday.

Now Levitt, who received the 2013 Nobel Prize in chemistry for developing complex models of chemical systems, is seeing similar turning points in other nations, even ones that did not instill the draconian isolation measures that China did.

He analyzed 78 countries with more than 50 reported cases of COVID-19 every day and sees "signs of recovery." He's not looking at cumulative cases, but the number of new cases every day — and the percentage growth in that number from one day to the next.

"Numbers are still noisy but there are clear signs of slowed growth."

Confirmed COVID-19 cases by country as of 6 p.m. Friday. Click to see the L.A. Times COVID-19 tracker. <span class=copyright>(Compiled by L.A. Times Graphics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Johns Hopkins CSSE, California Department of Public Health and reports from county public health officials.)</span>
Confirmed COVID-19 cases by country as of 6 p.m. Friday. Click to see the L.A. Times COVID-19 tracker. (Compiled by L.A. Times Graphics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Johns Hopkins CSSE, California Department of Public Health and reports from county public health officials.)
In Iran, for instance, the number of newly confirmed COVID-19 cases remained relatively flat last week, from 1,133 on Monday to 1,148 on Friday.

Of course, recovering from an initial outbreak doesn't mean the virus won't come back: China is now fighting to stop new waves of infection coming in from places where the virus is spreading out of control. Other countries are bound to face the same problem as well.

Levitt acknowledges that his figures are messy, and that the official case counts in many areas are too low because testing is spotty. But even with incomplete data, "a consistent decline means there's some factor at work that is not just noise in the numbers," he said.

The trajectory of deaths backs up his findings, he said. So do data from outbreaks in confined environments, such as the one on the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Out of 3,711 people on board, 712 were infected and eight died. In his view, this unintended experiment in coronavirus spread will help researchers estimate the number of fatalities that would occur in a fully infected population.

Levitt said the social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it and a vaccine is still many months away. "This is not the time to go out drinking with your buddies."

Getting vaccinated against the flu is important because a coronavirus outbreak that strikes in the middle of a flu epidemic is much more likely to overwhelm hospitals and increases the odds that the coronavirus goes undetected. This was probably a factor in Italy, a country with a strong anti-vaccine movement, he said.

But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.

He fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down.

The virus can grow exponentially only when it is undetected and no one is acting to control it, Levitt said. That's what happened in South Korea, when it ripped through a closed-off cult that refused to report the illness.

"People need to be considered heroes for announcing they have this virus," he said.

The goal needs to be better early detection — not just through testing but perhaps with body temperature surveillance, which China is implementing — and immediate social isolation.
 

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Pompeo says Iran supreme leader 'lies' over virus
AFPMarch 23, 2020, 8:02 AM MDT

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei delivers a nationwide address (AFP Photo/-)

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei delivers a nationwide address (AFP Photo/-)
Washington (AFP) - US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Monday accused Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei of lying about the coronavirus pandemic as the Supreme Leader rejected US assistance for his hard-hit country.
In a televised address Sunday, Khamenei described the United States as "charlatans" and charged that Washington could bring in a drug to keep the virus alive.
Pompeo in a statement also used loaded language, accusing "Iran's chief terror airline" Mahan Air of bringing in what he called the "Wuhan virus" through its continued flights to China.
"The regime continues to lie to the Iranian people and the world about the number of cases and deaths, which are unfortunately far higher than the regime admits," Pompeo said.
He said that the United States remained open to offering aid and was "working tirelessly" to develop a vaccine.
"Khamenei rejected this offer because he works tirelessly to concoct conspiracy theories and prioritizes ideology over the Iranian people," Pompeo said.
He also signaled that the United States was unreceptive to the Islamic republic's first-ever request for a loan from the IMF, where Washington effectively holds a veto, accusing the regime of funding "terror abroad" with its resources.
President Donald Trump's administration has maintained its policy of "maximum pressure" and sanctions as Iran is hit hard by the virus, with an official death toll of more than 1,800.
Trump, who is close to Iran's rivals Saudi Arabia and Israel, has sought to stop all of Iran's oil sales and the two countries have increasingly fought a proxy war in Iraq.
 

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Did you file taxes in 2018? Apparently the stimulus checks will only go to those who filed taxes in 2018. I wish they change it to being universal and sent to everyone with a social security number. It will make the process a lot more simple and rapid.
 

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These stupid kids


Florida college students test positive for coronavirus after going on spring break
BY CAITLIN O'KANE
MARCH 23, 2020 / 10:44 AM / CBS NEWS



At least five students from the University of Tampa have tested positive for coronavirus after traveling with other students from the school for spring break, the university announced on Twitter. This comes after crowds of spring-breakers in Florida were criticized for ignoring social distancing guidelines and packing beaches in complete disregard of the potential risk.

University of Tampa announced on Friday that it learned that one student, who resides off-campus, tested positive for the virus. Just a day later, the school confirmed that five students, who were part of a larger group traveling together during spring break, had tested positive.
 

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Of course, can't be late I have to write a check every year when we get them done. I hope they limit these checks to people that need them, and not the people that are fine without them, I don't need the money.

Yes but there are people who didn't file their taxes in 2018 that may need it. Even people with no income like students may need to make school payments. A lot of students are employed by their University and will now have lost their jobs. If you don't need it you can pass it down to someone you know in need. If they make it universal it will be sent out very quickly whereas trying to determine who needs it or not will take up to two months.
 

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Well the Democrats blocked it again today, so no agreement yet. I'm with the Democrats on this one though.
 

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did they give a reason, other than they don't want a recovery before election day?

C'mon now, don't be like the Ayatollah and think everything is a conspiracy against you or your base. Not sure the reasons will matter to you but I read they want more funding to unemployment benefits and want to make sure the corporations don't fire workers after being bailed out.

Either way though the states aren't gonna heed any push to return to normalcy at this time. It will require at least a month to make an assessment.
 

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WORLDREPORT: China Concealed Over 43,000 Confirmed Coronavirus Cases By End Of February
BEIJING, CHINA - NOVEMBER 6: Chinese President Xi Jinping speaks at a China-France Economic Forum at the Great Hall of the People on November 6, 2019 in Beijing, China. Macron, who is on a three-day state visit and also attended the China International Import Expo in Shanghai, said that France and China have found common ground on climate change and trade, but that Beijing needs to be more open to foreign companies, according to published reports. (Photo by Florence Lo - Pool/Getty Images)

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More than 43,000 people who tested positive in China for coronavirus by the end of February were not included in the nation’s official tally of confirmed cases, according to a report Sunday.

The figure represents so-called “silent carriers,” people who tested positive for the virus but showed no symptoms, according to Chinese government data obtained by the South China Morning Post.

The asymptomatic individuals were placed in quarantine and were monitored by authorities, but they were not added to the China’s official tally of confirmed coronavirus cases, the SCMP reported.
China’s failure to report asymptomatic coronavirus cases in its official tally goes against the World Health Organization’s guidance that anyone who tests positive for the virus should be counted as a confirmed case, regardless of their symptoms.
WHO has said that asymptomatic transmission of coronavirus is “extremely rare,” however, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported instances of asymptomatic individuals spreading the virus. (RELATED: Top WHO Official Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus Won Election With China’s Help. Now He’s Running Interference For China On Coronavirus)
“Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms,” the CDC stated. “ut this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.”
And a joint study by a panel experts in China, the United States, Britain and Hong Kong in January estimated that upwards of 79% of confirmed coronavirus cases in Wuhan were spread by individuals showing mild or no symptoms.

“These undocumented infections often experience mild, limited, or no symptoms and hence go unrecognized, and, depending on their contagiousness and numbers, can expose a far greater portion of the population to the virus than would otherwise occur,” the panel reported.

WHO did not respond to the Daily Caller News Foundation’s request for comment on China’s failure to report asymptomatic coronavirus cases.
(Photo by NAOHIKO HATTA/AFP via Getty Images)

World Health Organization director general Tedros Adhanom (L) shakes hands with Chinese President Xi jinping before a meeting at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing on January 28, 2020. (NAOHIKO HATTA/AFP via Getty Images)
China’s handling of coronavirus at the onset of the outbreak has come under intense scrutiny.

In early January, Chinese authorities reprimanded of the first doctors in Wuhan to warn people about the virus, accusing him of “spreading rumors online” and “severely disrupting social order.”
The doctor, 34-year-old Li Wenliang, was forced to sign a statement apologizing for blowing the whistle on the virus. Li died from coronavirus in February.
Five million people fled Wuhan by the time Chinese authorities locked down what was then the epicenter of the virus on Jan. 23, enabling the virus to spread around the world at a remarkable pace.
As of Monday morning there have been 343,692 confirmed cases of coronavirus and 15,430 deaths worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins University.
 

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Everything is about the election for the Democrats, including impeachment. Their blood boils at the site of Trump. They even call him racist for calling it the Chinese virus. Pelosi doesn't poop without thinking of the consequences of the election.

You think about and worship Trump too much, it's not healthy. This is not about Trump and he didn't even draft the bill, it's McConnel who drafted it.

Congressional elections are more important and already passed. Democrats did make gains. And thus both sides have to compromise now.
 

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People are gonna go through pain regardless, and the McConnel bill will not help. Aren't you retired military recieving benefits or social security? You know Republicans want to decrease those benefits? Democrats want to keep them going and increase unemployment benefit duration for the time being. McConnel wants to limit paid leave.

Democrats are going up against Trump and of course will want to unseat him. Democrats and Republicans run in elections against each other. It's the political system in this country. Don't know why you need to bring it up each time and make everything about Trump. When we're discussing details of the stimulus bill.

We should discuss the details of the bills and not make it about elections. No one will stop you from voting come around election time. You seem too paranoid.
 

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'No more slush funds': Democrats attack part of the $1.8 trillion stimulus bill as a bailout for massive corporations

A sticking point is a proposed $500 billion fund overseen by the Treasury Department to provide emergency federal funding for industries battered by the virus. The Trump administration is seeking to direct $50 billion to major airliners and $8 billion to major carriers.

But Democrats assailed "the slush fund," arguing it gives Mnuchin excessive leeway to determining who receives the money. They also said it didn't impose enough restrictions on how it could be used.

"This is a wake-up call: our govt needs to take bold action on a grassroots stimulus for the health experts on the frontlines of this pandemic, & for workers & families who need help now," Warren said in a tweet. "No more slush funds or no-strings-attached handouts. Real relief for the American people."

Sen. Patty Murray of Washington also blasted the bill and said it didn't go far enough to provide a financial cushion to the hardest-hit people.

"In the midst of an unprecedented national crisis, Republicans can't seriously expect us to tell people in our communities who are suffering that we shortchanged hospitals, students, workers and small businesses, but gave big corporations hundreds of billions of dollars in a secretive slush fund," Murray said in a press release.

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it's stalling, when Obama was President they had no problem with slush funds for banks and Wall Street

you don't need a link do you? here is one anyway


The Obama bailout was 9$ billion dollars for our Auto industry.

And they do support bailouts but with conditions and want the bill tilted more towards families and less towards corporations:

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Democrats have argued that the Senate GOP bill is disproportionately tilted towards helping companies and needs to extend more benefits to families and health care providers.

 

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it's stalling, when Obama was President they had no problem with slush funds for banks and Wall Street

you don't need a link do you? here is one anyway


Now if a Democrat was President you would probably have a few Republicans trying to pull the same moves, but McConnel would get them in line, he wouldn't allow it with a National Emergency

Republicans were trying to block every bill Obama wanted to pass, you don't remember?
 
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