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Operation Swift Retort; PAF officially discloses details of a befitting reply to IAF's violation of its air space.

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@Khafee---that was sabotage---there is no way that hatch could stay open on a modern sub and it sinks---it is mechanically impossible---and then to have that much damage---.

Subs just don't nose dive into the ocean right from their position of parking---they slowly glide down a slope into the water---.

Plus subs have compartments that have doors that can be shut---and they are water tight---so maybe Joe Shearer may want to comment and bring out some truth.
IF a US$2.9bn sub can be sabotaged, OR as per their claim "left open by mistake" = incompetence. Either way who is to blame?
 

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It was such an opportune time that we could could sink it and play unawares.

Looking at it from another angle, may be Pak Navy was weary that it could be a USN sub and probably approached the Americans for clarification instead of sinking it and since the cat was out of the bag in every sense, Pakistan decided not to force the issue in the name of its obnoxious peace gesturing.

It has to go down in history as one of the most historical goofups ever committed in a times of war.
27th February will remain the biggest goof up in history of Pakistan army.
They will never have justification to not take shoots on locked targets, and worst of them all was to deliver H4 in open areas, right next to the military installations, cherry on cake was that they are parading their idiocracy to the whole world. Whereas Indians are on the offense at diplomatic front, from the afternoon of 27th February, starting with the dead line of Modi to release Abhinandan, within hours.
I envy the army, who is being micromanaged by a person in middle of a war, who never had his homework done, or may be he's promising good jobs and party tickets to everyone he meets in army leadership.
Where as in India, modi had the authority handed over to his army weeks ago. Neither his army went back to modi to seek permission at any later stage!
 
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It reeks of COWARDICE by Pak air force---.
It sure does smell like non other than Cowardice, of the decision makers.

While Air chief, in his speech said that he was missing permission and may not care for one on next occasion, (which clearly will not come until his retirement). He surely lost the moment to prove his steel.
He should have seaked only permission to fly, nothing beyond.
How could he feel comfortable, with advise which lead to risk lives of his boys for nothing!!!!!.... or as Imran Khan's said he didn't allowed to retaliate, in order to ensure Modi's election victory.
While ISPR said, it was collective decision to not strike Indian army installations.
 
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Hi,@Khafee---that was sabotage---there is no way that hatch could stay open on a modern sub and it sinks---it is mechanically impossible---and then to have that much damage---.Subs just don't nose dive into the ocean right from their position of parking---they slowly glide down a slope into the water---.Plus subs have compartments that have doors that can be shut---and they are water tight---so maybe Joe Shearer may want to comment and bring out some truth.
IF a US$2.9bn sub can be sabotaged, OR as per their claim "left open by mistake" = incompetence. Either way who is to blame?
And yet another goofup, lol.

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A file photo of INS Vikrant at Cochin shipyard (AFP file)
A file photo of INS Vikrant at Cochin shipyard
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INS Vikrant vandalised, looted at Cochin shipyard
1 min read . Updated: 18 Sep 2019, 12:57 PM ISTShaswati Das
  • A hard disk and a multi function control processor were stolen and damaged inside Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC)-Vikrant
  • Theft and vandalism a result of “an internal matter and a possible insider job”: Home ministry

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New Delhi: In a breach of national security, a hard disk and a multi function control (MFC) processor were stolen and damaged inside Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC)-Vikrant docked at the Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL).

In a serious breach of national security, a hard disk and a multi function control (MFC) processor were stolen and damaged inside Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC)-Vikrant docked at the Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL).
While a probe is underway in the matter, the Union home ministry has said that the theft and vandalism was a result of “an internal matter and a possible insider job."

The Central Industrial Security Force (CISF), which was manning the dock for any suspicious movement or possible terror activity, said that while private security had been manning the construction area of the dock, the probe had been handed over to the state police.

“The disk contains sensitive information crucial for national security and a probe is underway to check if it was an insider job or not," said a person familiar with the development.
 

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So PAF could not even manage to mention the word 'Su-30' in the whole show.

This shows that even after 9 months PAF has completely failed to provide an iota of proof for it's claimed Su-30 shot down.
 

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So PAF could not even manage to mention the word 'Su-30' in the whole show.

This shows that even after 9 months PAF has completely failed to provide an iota of proof for it's claimed Su-30 shot down.
What about the Indian pilot captured by Pakistan? or is it a different story?
 

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I heard he was a Bison pilot that was shot down, I ran across this, I didn't know that India claimed an F-16 shoot down. Does anyone know of any conformation of this, when was it?

MiG-21 Bison: The Indian Air Force Fighter Jet That Took Down Pakistan’s F-16 Fighting Falcon
Here’s a look at the MiG-21 Bison fighter jet that took down the Pakistan Air Force’s F-16 Fighting Falcon.
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Updated:February 28, 2019, 2:18 PM IST
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File photo of a MiG-21 fighter jet. (Image: Indian Air Force)


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What Maruti Suzuki is to Indian automobile industry, MiG-21 is to the combat airplane industry across the globe. The USSR made MiG-21 is the first mass produced supersonic jet with an affordable price tag, that has been used by more than 60 countries for almost half a decade to guard their borders. Recently, an Indian Air Force MiG-21 made a lot of news after the jet destroyed a Pakistan Air Force's F-16 Falcon in an air-to-air combat near LOC.
The whole incident started in the early hours of Tuesday when 12 Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 fighter jets from Dassault Aviation, the French company who also manufactures the Rafale Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircrafts, entered Pakistani airspace and dropped 1,000-kg laser-guided bombs on Jaish-e-Mohammed terror launch pads across the Line of Control. The Mirage-2000 are the same jets that helped India win the Kargil war. Then on Wednesday, there were reports that Pakistan Air Force has deployed its F-16 Falcon fighter jets, made by U.S. based Lockheed Martin.



As a matter of fact India placed an order of 40 Mirage-2000 in 1982 as an answer to Pakistan buying F-16 fighter jets. But this time around, the Indian Air Force deployed its MiG-21 jets to counter the much advanced F-16 jets. What came as a surprise is that the MiG-21, which is on the verge of retirement, not only managed to tackle the F-16 Falcon’s, but also destroyed one of them.
Here’s a look at the MiG-21 Bison fighter jet that took down the Pakistan Air Force’s F-16 Fighting Falcon!
MiG 21. (Image: IAF)MiG 21. (Image: IAF)
Origin
The first supersonic jet aircraft in the aviation history, the MiG 21 is one of the most known fighter jets on Earth. Having served 60 countries over a course of 60 years, the MiG 21 is still in service in many countries, including India. The development of MiG-21 began in the early 1950s and it was designed by Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau in the Soviet Union. The 21 was nicknamed "balalaika" for resembling a pencil. The MiG-21 held a record for being the most-produced supersonic jet aircraft in aviation history, the most-produced combat aircraft and the longest production run of a combat aircraft.
The 21 is famous for its Delta Wings and the first prototype called the Ye-4 took its maiden flight on 16 June 1955 and made its first public appearance at the Soviet Aviation Day display in Moscow. USSR built a total of 10,645 aircrafts in three factories, whereas 851 units were built outside of the USSR, mostly by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited in India.
File photo of Pakistani F-16 fighter jet (Image : AFP).File photo of Pakistani F-16 fighter jet (Image : AFP)
History
In 1961, IAF opted for the Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau made MiG-21 and since then has made 657 of these fighter jets, including three variants - MiG-21FL, MiG-21M and MiG-21 Bison. While India was one of the largest operators of MiG-21s outside USSR, India is currently the largest operator of MiG-21 Bison, with an estimated 100+ aircrafts on duty. However, the Bison are currently being used only as an Interceptor, the same as they did yesterday with the Pakistan’s F-16 and intercepted them.
The MiG-21 played a pivotal role in the 1971 India-Pakistan War, and they will soon be replaced by the indigenously made Tejas LCA by HAL. The MiG-21 has a notorious history of crashing due to technical snags and as per an estimate, more than 500 planes have been lost to various crashes all across the country.
A MiG-21 jet in action. (Image: India Air Force)A MiG-21 jet in action. (Image: India Air Force)
Specification
The Mikoyan MiG-21 Bison is mostly a single-seater fighter jet with a long fuselage and delta wings. The jet is 14.7 metre long and has a wingspan of 7.1 metre. The 21 is light in weight with a dry weight of 5846 kg and maximum takeoff weight of 9800 kg. The MiG-21 is powered by a Tumansky R-25-300 afterburning turbojet with a dry thrust of 40.21 kN (9,040 lbf) and thrust with afterburner of 69.62 kN (15,650 lbf); 97.1 kN WEP (21,825 lbf WEP) (WEP = War Emergency Power, that can be used for 5 minutes). The MiG-21 was the first fighter jet to achieve supersonic speed of Mach 1.05 (1300 kmph) and still operates at the same speed. The range is 1470 km at 10 km altitude. The Bison can carry rockets, air-to-air missiles and air-to-surface missiles and bombs
 

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^^ not sure. I have not heard about this. I do not know how those fake stories made it to the media.
 

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I heard he was a Bison pilot that was shot down, I ran across this, I didn't know that India claimed an F-16 shoot down. Does anyone know of any conformation of this, when was it?
I have not. Maybe Pakistani members can confirm this @BATMAN and others.
 

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No F-16 was shot down.
We have one squadron of blk-52 and all units are accounted for.
Indians are making things up.
Making claims and providing no proofs yet insisting on the claims they make.
 

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