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Recently Imran Khan, who is very Iran influenced, along with his cabinet, was called into ISI headquarter along with CoAS.
I guess, he was informed of the operation in advance.
Imran Khan came out of that meeting with long face.
 

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Pakistan’s Growing Iran Problem

May 20, 2020 | Ahmed Quraishi

Last week, Pakistani and Iranian army chiefs talked terrorism over the phone. But the official readouts by their respective militaries could not be more different. This is the latest sign of simmering tensions between Tehran and Islamabad that have wider implications for next-door Afghanistan and the Gulf.

Pakistan’s Chief of Army Staff Gen. Qamar Javed Bajwa called up Maj. Gen. Mohammad Baqeri, Chief of the Armed Forces of Iran, to complain that a “terrorist attack” close to Iran’s border last week killed six Pakistani soldiers, including a major. Pakistan has decided to fence its border with Iran, Gen. Bajwa said, but needed “mutual bilateral cooperation” from the Iranian side. Pakistani officials say they have indications the attackers came from Iran.

Around the same time that the Iranian and Pakistani commanders spoke, Pakistan’s foreign minister stood in the parliament and accused Iran of pushing up to 5,000 Pakistanis – visiting Iran’s Shia Muslim shrines – through the border despite pleas to wait. Aside from the blatant mistreatment of Pakistani visitors, the Iranian move introduced COVID-19 into Pakistan, and caused a security alert. Tehran is likely to have used the confusion to ‘return’ some IRGC-trained Pakistani recruits in the Zeynabioun Brigade who fought in Syria. Iran had been demanding Pakistan to accept them back for months, to no avail.

After the call, Iran’s state-run IRNA news service released a story that basically omitted everything the Pakistani general said. Instead, it claimed the Iranian general all but admonished the Pakistani side for terrorism and demanded Pakistan reopen the border for trade, which Tehran desperately needs now to bust sanctions, overriding Pakistan’s pandemic concerns, of which Iran is the regional epicenter and the main source of initial spread in the neighborhood in February and March.

The IRNA story also said that Gen. Baqeri told his Pakistani counterpart that Iran “expects Pakistan’s military officials to take decisive action” against anti-Iran groups, a reference to indigenous Iranian rebel groups fighting the regime that sometimes straddle Iran’s haunted border regions with Pakistan and Afghanistan.

That is not what the head of the powerful Pakistani military discussed. Released a day later, on Tuesday, the Pakistani military’s media office posted a short business-like summary of the telephone call that did not mince words, with this line marked in bold on its website: “COAS [Chief of Army Staff] expressed concerns on recent terrorist attack on Pak security forces resulting in shahadat [martyrdom] of 6 security personnel near Pak-Iran border.”

There was no mention of trade. However, Iran did get some of what Gen. Baqeri asked for. Hours after the call, Iran’s semi-official Mehr news agency announced Pakistan had reopened the Mirjavah border crossing for limited Iranian trade, but urged Pakistan to accept more cargo.

Pakistan’s forty-year-old policy of avoiding getting into the crosshairs of Iran’s ayatollahs is facing a challenge as the Revolutionary Guards set their eyes on Pakistan while the two countries compete for strategic interests in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf. The new head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force (IRGC-QF), Esmail Ghaani, who replaced Soleimani, is an Afghanistan expert who has given Pakistan a tough time over the years.

Iran wants to keep a check on Pakistan getting too close to United States and its regional allies, and stop Pakistani military involvement in the Gulf, including in joint patrols with the U.S. Fifth Fleet. While at it, Iran is wary of expanded Pakistani role in Afghanistan peace talks.

The Buleda attack of May 8, 2020 comes almost a year after a similar incident where Iran-based attackers captured and executed 14 Pakistani navy and air force personnel at Ormara before fleeing back to Iran. Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan visited Iran immediately afterwards to appease Iran’s Khomeinist rulers, only to see a few weeks later the only five-star hotel at Pakistan’s strategic port city of Gwadar attacked in a sophisticated operation on May 11, 2019. That attack occurred only a few hours before the attack on oil tankers off Fujairah port in the Gulf of Oman, not far from the site of the Pakistani attack, and two days before the attack on Saudi oil installations.

These attacks on Pakistani, Emirati, and Saudi interests over three days in May 2019 closely mirrored a blunt threat made by Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari, then commander-in-chief of IRGC, in February, of “revenge” after Iranian militant group, Jaish Al-Adl, blew up buses inside Iran on February 13 carrying Quds Force soldiers. There is no evidence the three countries were involved, and the ayatollahs are fond of blaming other countries for what essentially are internal troubles.

As the endgame nears in Afghanistan, and Iran’s regionwide proxy infrastructure comes under scrutiny, Pakistanis are forced to consider options to counter Iran’s growing meddling inside their country. Pakistan has previously shown the red eye to IRGC, but aside from harsh military options, there is a debate now on softer options to deter Iran’s mullahs, including opening communication channels with Iranians opposed to the clerical regime, as a way of balancing Quds Force’s ingress inside Pakistan.

Ahmed Quraishi is a journalist based in Islamabad and Dubai who covers national security.
 

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Last week, Pakistani and Iranian army chiefs talked terrorism over the phone. But the official readouts by their respective militaries could not be more different.
This is nothing new, Iranian retards always do this. Remember the presser released by ISPR when Gen RS met Rouhani?

. Tehran is likely to have used the confusion to ‘return’ some IRGC-trained Pakistani recruits in the Zeynabioun Brigade who fought in Syria. Iran had been demanding Pakistan to accept them back for months, to no avail.
This is a national security crisis!

@Zulu @!eon @TsAr @Counter-Errorist @safriz @Zeeman and others
 

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There were many videos shared when they were returning and chanting their victory slogans.
A common man knows it, what you think Niazi authorities are not aware of it?

Seems like they are being bilaterally imported for some show. There are some severe questions circulation about current civil and military leadership, regarding their relationships with Iranians and Qadiani groups.

If you can remember a few years ago Nasiruddin Haqqani, son of Jalaluddin Haqqani was murdered in Islamabad. Nasiruddin and his driver stopped near a نانبائی to buy some bread. Driver went to the shop and Nasiruddin was sitting alone in the car. A man waiting there approaches the car, confirms who is sitting inside and opens fire.

Driver rushes back، grapples with the hitman. The hitman escapes but drops his phone. Phone was decoded (not by Pakistani authorities) and had all the contacts of only two groups, shia and qadiani.


This is nothing new, Iranian retards always do this. Remember the presser released by ISPR when Gen RS met Rouhani?


This is a national security crisis!

@Zulu @!eon @TsAr @Counter-Errorist @safriz @Zeeman and others
 
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Pakistan’s Growing Iran Problem

May 20, 2020 | Ahmed Quraishi

Last week, Pakistani and Iranian army chiefs talked terrorism over the phone. But the official readouts by their respective militaries could not be more different. This is the latest sign of simmering tensions between Tehran and Islamabad that have wider implications for next-door Afghanistan and the Gulf.

Pakistan’s Chief of Army Staff Gen. Qamar Javed Bajwa called up Maj. Gen. Mohammad Baqeri, Chief of the Armed Forces of Iran, to complain that a “terrorist attack” close to Iran’s border last week killed six Pakistani soldiers, including a major. Pakistan has decided to fence its border with Iran, Gen. Bajwa said, but needed “mutual bilateral cooperation” from the Iranian side. Pakistani officials say they have indications the attackers came from Iran.

Around the same time that the Iranian and Pakistani commanders spoke, Pakistan’s foreign minister stood in the parliament and accused Iran of pushing up to 5,000 Pakistanis – visiting Iran’s Shia Muslim shrines – through the border despite pleas to wait. Aside from the blatant mistreatment of Pakistani visitors, the Iranian move introduced COVID-19 into Pakistan, and caused a security alert. Tehran is likely to have used the confusion to ‘return’ some IRGC-trained Pakistani recruits in the Zeynabioun Brigade who fought in Syria. Iran had been demanding Pakistan to accept them back for months, to no avail.

After the call, Iran’s state-run IRNA news service released a story that basically omitted everything the Pakistani general said. Instead, it claimed the Iranian general all but admonished the Pakistani side for terrorism and demanded Pakistan reopen the border for trade, which Tehran desperately needs now to bust sanctions, overriding Pakistan’s pandemic concerns, of which Iran is the regional epicenter and the main source of initial spread in the neighborhood in February and March.

The IRNA story also said that Gen. Baqeri told his Pakistani counterpart that Iran “expects Pakistan’s military officials to take decisive action” against anti-Iran groups, a reference to indigenous Iranian rebel groups fighting the regime that sometimes straddle Iran’s haunted border regions with Pakistan and Afghanistan.

That is not what the head of the powerful Pakistani military discussed. Released a day later, on Tuesday, the Pakistani military’s media office posted a short business-like summary of the telephone call that did not mince words, with this line marked in bold on its website: “COAS [Chief of Army Staff] expressed concerns on recent terrorist attack on Pak security forces resulting in shahadat [martyrdom] of 6 security personnel near Pak-Iran border.”

There was no mention of trade. However, Iran did get some of what Gen. Baqeri asked for. Hours after the call, Iran’s semi-official Mehr news agency announced Pakistan had reopened the Mirjavah border crossing for limited Iranian trade, but urged Pakistan to accept more cargo.

Pakistan’s forty-year-old policy of avoiding getting into the crosshairs of Iran’s ayatollahs is facing a challenge as the Revolutionary Guards set their eyes on Pakistan while the two countries compete for strategic interests in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf. The new head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force (IRGC-QF), Esmail Ghaani, who replaced Soleimani, is an Afghanistan expert who has given Pakistan a tough time over the years.

Iran wants to keep a check on Pakistan getting too close to United States and its regional allies, and stop Pakistani military involvement in the Gulf, including in joint patrols with the U.S. Fifth Fleet. While at it, Iran is wary of expanded Pakistani role in Afghanistan peace talks.

The Buleda attack of May 8, 2020 comes almost a year after a similar incident where Iran-based attackers captured and executed 14 Pakistani navy and air force personnel at Ormara before fleeing back to Iran. Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan visited Iran immediately afterwards to appease Iran’s Khomeinist rulers, only to see a few weeks later the only five-star hotel at Pakistan’s strategic port city of Gwadar attacked in a sophisticated operation on May 11, 2019. That attack occurred only a few hours before the attack on oil tankers off Fujairah port in the Gulf of Oman, not far from the site of the Pakistani attack, and two days before the attack on Saudi oil installations.

These attacks on Pakistani, Emirati, and Saudi interests over three days in May 2019 closely mirrored a blunt threat made by Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari, then commander-in-chief of IRGC, in February, of “revenge” after Iranian militant group, Jaish Al-Adl, blew up buses inside Iran on February 13 carrying Quds Force soldiers. There is no evidence the three countries were involved, and the ayatollahs are fond of blaming other countries for what essentially are internal troubles.

As the endgame nears in Afghanistan, and Iran’s regionwide proxy infrastructure comes under scrutiny, Pakistanis are forced to consider options to counter Iran’s growing meddling inside their country. Pakistan has previously shown the red eye to IRGC, but aside from harsh military options, there is a debate now on softer options to deter Iran’s mullahs, including opening communication channels with Iranians opposed to the clerical regime, as a way of balancing Quds Force’s ingress inside Pakistan.

Ahmed Quraishi is a journalist based in Islamabad and Dubai who covers national security.
Until border fencing and adequate infiltration prevention is not in place, we are forced to keep Iranians placated. We cannot afford to redirect our men and resources to the western border. Iran knows this, and blackmails us for it.

We bide our time, stabilize the eastern border, alongwith our economy, and complete the fence. Once we're ready, we make Iran and its goons among us pay a heavy toll. We cannot launch a proper operation against these elements as there's always plenty numbers willing to fill through the border. Close up the border and crush these worms.
 

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This is nothing new, Iranian retards always do this. Remember the presser released by ISPR when Gen RS met Rouhani?


This is a national security crisis!

@Zulu @!eon @TsAr @Counter-Errorist @safriz @Zeeman and others
Who ever these are would be taken care of Insha Allah and operation is already underway quietly. Reason we don't hear much about it because of Covid-19.
 

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Until border fencing and adequate infiltration prevention is not in place, we are forced to keep Iranians placated. We cannot afford to redirect our men and resources to the western border. Iran knows this, and blackmails us for it.

We bide our time, stabilize the eastern border, alongwith our economy, and complete the fence. Once we're ready, we make Iran and its goons among us pay a heavy toll. We cannot launch a proper operation against these elements as there's always plenty numbers willing to fill through the border. Close up the border and crush these worms.
Border fencing is good and it comes with a cost, paid by Pakistani tax payers. While, Iran regime got to do what they got to do.
Issue is their associates in Pakistan sitting in all the power full positions.
Why you think it was important for army to inform Imran Khan for a tiny anti terrorism operation!
Obviously they knew about the inclination of Imran Khan towards Iranian mulla regime, and this is why they wanted to inform Imran Khan of the compelling evidence they may have, before taking action against terrorists, at Iran border.
IMO, whole setup is compromised and the patriot and loyal officers are at risk.
As far Taftan border is concerned, without support of state no one can cross border without having record of it.
There's not a single word of public statement from any quarters of state, beside one phone call news of General Bajwa, while the call, IMO was totally unnecessary. It's like giving head start to terrorists before commencing operation, making it difficult for our boys.
 

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Border fencing is good and it comes with a cost, paid by Pakistani tax payers. While, Iran regime got to do what they got to do.
Issue is their associates in Pakistan sitting in all the power full positions.
Why you think it was important for army to inform Imran Khan for a tiny anti terrorism operation!
Obviously they knew about the inclination of Imran Khan towards Iranian mulla regime, and this is why they wanted to inform Imran Khan of the compelling evidence they may have, before taking action against terrorists, at Iran border.
IMO, whole setup is compromised and the patriot and loyal officers are at risk.
As far Taftan border is concerned, without support of state no one can cross border without having record of it.
There's not a single word of public statement from any quarters of state, beside one phone call news of General Bajwa, while the call, IMO was totally unnecessary. It's like giving head start to terrorists before commencing operation, making it difficult for our boys.
Sir no doubt evidence are there for terrorists travelling from Iran but now after end of economic ties with India, the Iranians can be pushed to facilitate Pak against Baluch terrorists as Iran is also facing uprising in Sistan at major level due to poverty in Sunni areas and violence against them on sectarian basis. Both issue are pretty much interlinked if Pakistan and Iran work together in true spirit the terrorism can end from entire Baluchistan.
 

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Sir no doubt evidence are there for terrorists travelling from Iran but now after end of economic ties with India, the Iranians can be pushed to facilitate Pak against Baluch terrorists as Iran is also facing uprising in Sistan at major level due to poverty in Sunni areas and violence against them on sectarian basis. Both issue are pretty much interlinked if Pakistan and Iran work together in true spirit the terrorism can end from entire Baluchistan.
It's obvious that militant safe heavens are in Iran, but all of this terrorism has to be objective driven, than comes planning, investing, hiring, arming, training, collecting intelligence, and last comes the execution detailing. While most of it is happening in Iran, under the direct command of Indians.
In given circumstances, trusting Iran doesn't sound a wise call, to put it mildly.

While Iranian domestic issues are totally different in nature. Starting with people of Sistan, who had been subjected to a long state persecution, followed by the genocide of 80's /90's.
Even Shia in Ahwaz are persecuted, simply because of their linguistic connect with Quran.
Than there are liberals, who are very expressive against the state and carry around long list of state crimes.
In any case, Pakistan has no business with any of it and we must stand clear. We shouldn't agonize any of those stake holders, by siding with mullas of Iran.

I also don't agree to the thought that Pakistan army getting black mailed, on basis of religion /sectarianism.
It's an army of Pakistan, not army of Sunni /Shia /pagan/sufi etc.
Pak-Army should act as an institute. Should execute intelligence based operations without informing dubious politicians and they have mandate for it. We have example of Pervez Musharraf, who didn't bothered telling ISI before marching on to unmanned areas in Kashmir/Kargil.
Ever since exit of General Rahil Sharif, anti terror operations had gone mild, while in Balochistan terrorist groups are reemerging. It hints army has been occupied some where else.
 
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It's obvious that militant safe heavens are in Iran, but all of this terrorism has to be objective driven, than comes planning, investing, hiring, arming, training, collecting intelligence, and last comes the execution detailing. While most of it is happening in Iran, under the direct command of Indians.
In given circumstances, trusting Iran doesn't sound a wise call, to put it mildly.

While Iranian domestic issues are totally different in nature. Starting with people of Sistan, who had been subjected to a long state persecution, followed by the genocide of 80's /90's.
Even Shia in Ahwaz are persecuted, simply because of their linguistic connect with Quran.
Than there are liberals, who are very expressive against the state and carry around long list of state crimes.
In any case, Pakistan has no business with any of it and we must stand clear. We shouldn't agonize any of those stake holders, by siding with mullas of Iran.

I also don't agree to the thought that Pakistan army getting black mailed, on basis of religion /sectarianism.
It's an army of Pakistan, not army of Sunni /Shia /pagan/sufi etc.
Pak-Army should act as an institute. Should execute intelligence based operations without informing dubious politicians and they have mandate for it. We have example of Pervez Musharraf, who didn't bothered telling ISI before marching on to unmanned areas in Kashmir/Kargil.
Ever since exit of General Rahil Sharif, anti terror operations had gone mild, while in Balochistan terrorist groups are reemerging. It hints army has been occupied some where else.
the army has not gone mild, situation had greatly improved. With peace talks in Afghanistan and fencing on the border things had improved a lot.
 

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the army has not gone mild, situation had greatly improved. With peace talks in Afghanistan and fencing on the border things had improved a lot.
I'm looking at an operation after long time, which as well is reactive.
Up until few weeks ago, Pakistani PM was totally unaware of the Iranian role in Baluchistan.
No news on fencing at Afghan border and I don't expect army to get involved in Afghan peace talks.
 

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About that i can safely assure you its totally handle by professionals,or as u suspected no role from IK or for that matter any civilian govt hand of past or present .Abt rest as @TsAr said yah we doing some mistakes but things are moving in good direction u can't push on all front at once have to go step by step ,brick by brick
I don't expect army to get involved in Afghan peace talks.
 
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