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Sir if Pakistan able have permission from usa dir Afghan deal and in past pakistan got kits MLU from usa than after intial few update in usa remaining got update in Turkey.

If only if we get permission than aesa update form turnkey will cheaper then V standard from usa ?
Things are bad between Turkey and US. This time around MLU's or upgrades might not happen in Turkey but US.
 

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Things are bad between Turkey and US. This time around MLU's or upgrades might not happen in Turkey but US.
Ofcourse sir you much more informative then us, no drought in it mashallah

I read in few places (news not forum) thay trump again want to have better terms with turkey as thay so not want Turkey to totally fall on China and Russia alliance hands,

Ofcourse thay have common friend that Israel, which can definitely help on this metter using back doors ?

Whats your option @Khafee. ?
 

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Ofcourse sir you much more informative then us, no drought in it mashallah

I read in few places (news not forum) thay trump again want to have better terms with turkey as thay so not want Turkey to totally fall on China and Russia alliance hands,

Ofcourse thay have common friend that Israel, which can definitely help on this metter using back doors ?

Whats your option @Khafee. ?
The problem is Turkey is in a tight spot, with its economy crashing, right now it cant afford to upset the US. So lets see how THEY try and mend it now.
 

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The problem is Turkey is in a tight spot, with its economy crashing, right now it cant afford to upset the US. So lets see how THEY try and mend it now.
Yes sir you right, that way i heard both parties want to back on track want show world we do not take back step

There solid backend diplomacy going to solve it

SAMP BHEE MARR JIAA AUR LAATHEE BHEE NAA TOOTAY
 

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If the deal goes through as we are discussing it for New Vipers, we need not go to Turkey for upgrades, Having new ones is much greater deal than the upgrades so it will not be a Problem , plus it has been told many a Times by Khafee that;

"Upgrading old birds is glued with purchasing new ones"
 

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If the deal goes through as we are discussing it for New Vipers, we need not go to Turkey for upgrades, Having new ones is much greater deal than the upgrades so it will not be a Problem , plus it has been told many a Times by Khafee that;

"Upgrading old birds is glued with purchasing new ones"
Plus why would they allow EDA vipers to be upgraded outside US,
 

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Plus why would they allow EDA vipers to be upgraded outside US,
Agree, it will be illogical. So I think it should be understood that any upgrades made to current Viper Fleet or Future ones especially as u said from EDA will be done by US.
 

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My question was related existing fleet of PAF. Not about possible EDA birds ofcourse if EDA birds are provided any updation is part of deal them done by US
Most probably upgrades will be done in US.
 

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That will must, but if due to Afghan deal usa have soft on Pakistan, pakistan can plan for aesa radars for our existing fleet as add on in low cost
I think even if there will be upgrade it will done by Grummans not by turkish aerospace beacuse after COVID crisis first priority of US is US companies and jobs. Look what they did with Philippines case didn't allow to release engine for T129 instead offer them to buy US Helis?
 

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If I am not mistaken Pakistan wanted to upgrade all F16s at Kamra but Uncle Sam said no. So we picked Turkey.
Pakistan is always worried about sending equipment to the USA and getting it stuck there . Remember when during Kargil French embargoed our Mirages . I will be wary of sending equipment to the USA unless we have good assurances.
 

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Yes sir you right, that way i heard both parties want to back on track want show world we do not take back step

There solid backend diplomacy going to solve it

SAMP BHEE MARR JIAA AUR LAATHEE BHEE NAA TOOTAY
US companies can do upgrade and US priority is them not turkey also there is fokker from Holland they do too.
 
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