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They are clever. They never sell us anything which would give us a desisive edge. One of the tragedies we face is being dependent on others for our technology. Partly our own laziness and partly our circumstances.
I disagree, who had the edge on 27th Feb..
 

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I disagree, who had the edge on 27th Feb..
You are pleased too easily. It was never desisive! Shooting down a couple of aircraft is not desisive. And it was our JF-17 and Mirages that were the stars. The BVR shootout was a bonus no one even knew would happen.
 

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You are pleased too easily. It was never desisive! Shooting down a couple of aircraft is not desisive. And it was our JF-17 and Mirages that were the stars. The BVR shootout was a bonus no one even knew would happen.
What did you use to shoot down the Mig and Su, Amraam's. If it was not the latest tech India would not have been running over to Uncle Sam the very a next day with the piece of Amraams
 

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What did you use to shoot down the Mig and Su, Amraam's. If it was not the latest tech India would not have been running over to Uncle Sam the very a next day with the piece of Amraams
It was enough to take care of them agreed. My point is that US will never sell us enough quantity(less than 100 f16) of a product or latest enough (blk70)for us to have a desisive edge over IAF.
 

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Look , They can take 20 years to strategise but their planners will recognize the same fact I pointed out above i.e. the differential in max ranges of both missiles and they will use it to their advantage.On Feb 27 anyone with inside knowledge will tell you that it was part of our strategy to stay the hell away from their mirage 2000s which had been equiped with meteors. Our superior AIM 120 C-5s was the only reason we got the alleged Su30 kill. We could get closer but they could not.
There is no Meteor missile operational with IAF be it Mirage2K or any other fighter jet of IAF as far as I know
 

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Lmao I'm asking not making conclusions 😅
I'm following thos tread from long time silently but I'm so curious which way it will go and that Why I asked lol
Nice headline: "Hit man got hit, due to grammar" |0|
 

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Yes sorry. I meant the Mica missile
As per the admission of Indian media their M2K were unable to get a lock on any of our jet just read the Indian media reports, and as our Air Chief our JF-17 performed satisfactorily against M2K for this read his interview given to Alan Warner few month back.

As per unofficial reports JF-17 sucesfully manage to get lock against both MKI and M2k of IAF, this thing get some weight by the tweet of Maj. Gen. Asif Ghafoor in which he ask Indians to pick the jet of their choice (among JF-17 and F-16) in reply to their claim that of unauthorised used of F-16.
 

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As per the admission of Indian media there M2K were unable to get a lock on any of our jet just read the Indian media reports,
Agreed they could not get a lock because it was part of our strategy to stay away from them. Otherwise if we were in their missiles range what would be stopping them from getting radar locks .
 

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So for all intents and purposes, we either get new F-16 Blk-72s and/or F-16V upgrades...or we wait until Project Azm comes online. The solace here is that any money that they might have spent on imports goes into Azm, reducing the chances of it running into issues along the way (that money can solve).

As an interim (in lieu of fighters), I'd invest in longer ranged cruise missiles, quasi-ballistic missiles (e.g. like Iskander, but Ukrainian tech), etc.
 

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JF-17 performed satisfactorily against M2K for this read his interview given to Alan Warner few month back.
I think he means by that as you mentioned above that JF-17 got radar locks. There were 9 radar locks only two were given clearance to proceed. Rest is history.
 

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Agreed they could not get a lock because it was part of our strategy to stay away from them.
Nope because of successful employment of EW asset from our side they (the pilots of M2k) specifically mention the reason of radar malfunctioning to their ground controller and the same was reported by their print media, otherwise there is no reason for M2k not to pick JF-17 as their RDY-2 RADAR have 100+ KM range (120-140 km)

Now plz read the map jet of both air forces were flying almost within 100 km or less radius
 

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Nope because of successful employment of EW asset from our side they (the pilots of M2k) specifically mention the reason of radar malfunctioning to their ground controller and the same was reported by their print media, otherwise there is no reason for M2k not to pick JF-17 as their RDY-2 RADAR have 100+ KM range (120-140 km)

Now plz read the map jet of both air forces were flying almost within 100 km or less radius
You are smart! No seriously this is most likely what happened.
 

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PL-15 with AESA seeker, has a greater than or equal to 150km range. It also has a NEZ comparable to that of the Meteor.
 

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