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The insurgency can be addressed in two ways...
1) Final push for peace in Afghanistan...that sees a complete withdrawal of foreign troops and part of that should be a push to secure as much power as possible for Afghan Taliban(forming the new government).
--> The Afghan Taliban are pro Pak...and they have tribal relations with Pak's Pukhtoons. It wouldn't be hard to keep them pro Pak.
--> Once foreign troops are gone and Afghan Taliban are in power...it will be open hunting season for any Indian sponsored...or any anti Pak elements in general that are operating from Afghanistan.

2) In addition continued efforts should be made to complete fencing of the border with Afghanistan and Iran...with only a few check points through which trade and travel occurs.
--> Besides fences...install sensors to monitor the border day/night.
--> Use UAV...and UCAVs if attacks are to be carried out. This coupled with ground troops(FC) would make it immensely hard for the likes of TTP or BLA to move in and out of Pak...or to coordinate attacks, smuggle in weapons, etc.

As for shaming IK and the Army chief for not openly carrying out ops in Afganistan. U must understand there are consequences. It's not that Pak is incapable of it. The consequences are of image. India has been working hard for a while now doing propaganda to paint Pak as the cause of Afghan civil war and instability...which to an extent has worked to malign Pak's image. Any military action directly taken by Pak forces on their soil...and it would add credibility to Indian lies. It's the last mile...let's not get desperate...slow and steady wins the race.
No, I do understand the nasty truths to "why". I just tend to get emotional because it's the pakhtoons, balochs and anyone on the frontiers that bare the blunt of terrorism. I've lost family and dare friends in this war. Its very near my heart so I lash out when I see incompetence. They are showing incompetence though. If they cant leave the borders then atleast protect what's within them.
 
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No, I do understand the nasty truths to "why". I just tend to get emotional because it's the pakhtoons, balochs and anyone on the frontiers that bare the blunt of terrorism. I've lost family and dare friends in this war. Its very near my heart so I lash out when I see incompetence. They are showing incompetence though. If they cant leave the borders then atleast protect what's within them.
I can understand the emotions...but u must be able to compartmentalize and step back...and look at the bigger picture.
 

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I really am not a big fan of Chinese choppers .... underpowered and not combat proven. We need something to compete in anti armour warfare. AH64 and Rafael give me the real reason to worry .
While combat choppers pack a punch, remember that they're primarily anti-armour. We can counter their armour without choppers with our own armour, ATGM, bombing aircrafts and mines. Countering apaches and Rafale is a job for air defense units. We have sufficient HQ16s, Pantsirs and manpads to keep apaches at bay against direct attacks. But apache ambushes will remain a serious threat. With upcoming F16s, new Chinese radars and HQ9s, the Rafale threat could be mitigated too.

We're on the defensive so India will need impeccable planning, tactics, numerical + qualitative superiority sprinkled with good luck to make worthwhile headway against our forces. And even then remain prepared for high attrition rates and a chance escalation to an all-out nuclear war.
 

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While combat choppers pack a punch, remember that they're primarily anti-armour. We can counter their armour without choppers with our own armour, ATGM, bombing aircrafts and mines. Countering apaches and Rafale is a job for air defense units. We have sufficient HQ16s, Pantsirs and manpads to keep apaches at bay against direct attacks. But apache ambushes will remain a serious threat. With upcoming F16s, new Chinese radars and HQ9s, the Rafale threat could be mitigated too.

We're on the defensive so India will need impeccable planning, tactics, numerical + qualitative superiority sprinkled with good luck to make worthwhile headway against our forces. And even then remain prepared for high attrition rates and a chance escalation to an all-out nuclear war.
One can say war is just how far your luck can carry you. If your luck runs out before your enemies then all is end. D:-O
 

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If have little cash, then go for few russian , even used one, PA very satisfied with then after Mi17 and specially Mi 35
Just remember watching interview of one of mian pilot done thoroughly testing on Z10 (when 3 were in Pakistan) his opinion was they were very good he loved these bird, they have good responses inky in few area thay are weak
To adress those point china make Z10M, so something better then nothing, turks Atak are almost gone untill atak 2.
 

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Just remember watching interview of one of mian pilot done thoroughly testing on Z10 (when 3 were in Pakistan) his opinion was they were very good he loved these bird, they have good responses inky in few area thay are weak
To adress those point china make Z10M, so something better then nothing, turks Atak are almost gone untill atak 2.
They won't say anything during an interview, it's just formalities. You wont truly know how they feel about certain equipment from an interview.
 

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Hi,

Pakistan has learnt nothing out of this war---. You never do the deal for the US unless you get what you need on your ground---.

The americans have no honor left to fulfil the deal---they can do about face anytime they want to---.
If only we had sane people like you.
 

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