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The imam's companions narrated 10,000s of hadiths from them despite living 1000km+ away from them

The imams also practiced taqiyya publicly due to fear of the authorities. It seems unlikely they could hold a large amount of classes under these circumstances. Yet still somehow, people claimed to learned 10,000s of hadith from them even though they barely had any contact.

1. Aban bin Taghlib was a "companion" of the imams. He met Imam al-Sajjad, Imam Muhammad al-Baqir, and Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq. He narrated some 30,000 hadith from Ja'far al-Sadiq despite him living in Kufa and Ja'far al-Sadiq living in Medina.
From - Aban b. Taghlib
He had the opportunity to meet Imam al-Sajjad (a), Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (a), and Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (a). It is said that he narrated about 30,000 hadiths from Imam al-Sadiq (a).
2. Jabin bin Yazid al-Ju'fi was also a "companion" of the imams. He was a companion of Imam Muhammad al-Baqir, and Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq. He narrated some 70,000 hadith from Muhammed al-Baqir despite him living in kufa and Muhammed al-Baqir in Medina.
From - Imam Muhammad b. Ali al-Baqir (a)
Imam al-Baqir (a) paid particular attention to hadiths (or traditions) from the Prophet (s) to the extent that Jabir b. Yazid al-Ju'fi narrated 70,000 traditions from the noble Prophet (s) from him (a). Also, Aban b. Taghlib and other students of Imam al-Baqir (a) narrated a great number of this tremendous legacy from the Imam (a).
3. Muhammed bin Muslim al-Thaqifi was another companion, he was a companion of Imam Muhammad al-Baqir, Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq and Imam al-Kazim. He narrated 30,000 hadith from Muhammed al-Baqir and 16,000 hadith from Ja'far al-Sadiq despite him again being from Kufa and they living Medina. However he did allegedly study for 4 years from Muhammed al-Baqir.
Muhammad b. Muslim al-Thaqafi
He heard thirty-thousand hadiths from Imam al-Baqir (a) and sixteen thousand hadiths from Imam al-Sadiq (a).
 

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I'm not sure, if these people really said that.
Watched a min of that and that is like some proper extremism right there. Even the average shia would watch that and be like what the heck are these guys saying. Are they video clips taken from pakistan?
 

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For some reason I can't add words to the post above ^

Anyway a lot of shia will tell you that tatbir (self flagellation) isn't allowed. But they're wrong. There's a difference of opinion and many shia scholars permit it. Here's a saudi shia scholar attempting to justifying it.
 

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Shia getting ready to do tatbir in the shrime of Imam Hussain (ra)... It's clearly not forbidden otherwise the shia scholars could easily stop these fools.

 

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One of those rare things uniting both sects
 

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Watched a min of that and that is like some proper extremism right there. Even the average shia would watch that and be like what the heck are these guys saying. Are they video clips taken from pakistan?
From their language and gestures, they appears to be Pakistani shia... one of the Imam i even recognized, as well the spiritual guide of Pakistani PM.
On internet one can find a video of Pakistan's current PM, president and some ministers visiting same Imam. Some time before previous elections.
 
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One of those rare things uniting both sects
from my perspective... it's grave worshiping and other alike rituals and wearable etc. which unite both sects. in Pakistan.
Technically speaking Sunnism /Sufism in Pakistan are various sects. bearing close anomaly with Shiaism, minus flagellation.
 

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From their language and gestures, they appears to be Pakistani shia... one of the Imam i even recognized, as well the spiritual guide of Pakistani PM.
On internet one can find a video of Pakistan's current PM, president and some ministers visiting same Imam. Some time before previous elections.
Whats the timestamp for that person in the video? I want to see who it is.
 

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Shahnsha Naqvi @0:29
Oh this guy, the one who said pakistani shias should attack things for Iran. Wish the video gave more context to his sentence, otherwise it's hard to make sure what point he is making.
 

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In muharram time some shias dress up as a lion to represent a lion who came to the aftermath of karbala and cried for Hussain (ra). This posts a funny one...

How Mufasa really died:



This lion guy forget that it's a month of mourning...

 

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This guy sounds like a pakistani, I wonder where he was giving this speech.
 
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