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ISIS terrorists are extraordinary fighters, we get to admit that. SAA, HZ, FSA, Iraqi army, coalition, Kurds, Shiite militias, Sunni fighters, Qaeda, Iranians, all fight them and they still gain lands... Creepy
 

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ISIS terrorists are extraordinary fighters, we get to admit that. SAA, HZ, FSA, Iraqi army, coalition, Kurds, Shiite militias, Sunni fighters, Iranians, all fight them and they still gain lands... Creepy

I don't support them,but i also admit that.
But,we can't really say that their adversaries are 'professionnal'..
 

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ISIS terrorists are extraordinary fighters, we get to admit that. SAA, HZ, FSA, Iraqi army, coalition, Kurds, Shiite militias, Sunni fighters, Qaeda, Iranians, all fight them and they still gain lands... Creepy
LMAO.
but correct me if im wrong. ISIS in iraq fights differently than in syria.
 

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in a nutshell no one can defeat ISIS or alqaeada unless US policy change and iran goes out of the ME. they have been fighting them for 12 years and no one can win against them. they spent trillions. they will always exist but with different names.
US and iran policy is the real disease. ISIS is the symptom. US and iran policy is the main fuel for them. cut the fuel they die.
if US, russia and iran can get the hell out of the ME. and the world can give saudi the lead to fight them and put the plans and the world can back up those plans. i promise you they will vanish in less than a year.
but to finish ISIS you have to finish all iranian terrorist shia militia in the ME. ALL OF THEM. from lebanon to yemen. and that can be done at the same time we are fighting ISIS.
 

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LMAO.
but correct me if im wrong. ISIS in Iraq fights differently than in Syria.
I think you're referring that they fight Iranian militias in Iraq. Correct. But they are both evil, Iran speaks in the name of Islam, and ISIS speaks in the name of Sunni and they are both outlaws of Islam.
 

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I think you're referring that they fight Iranian militias in Iraq. Correct. But they are both evil, Iran speaks in the name of Islam, and ISIS speaks in the name of Sunni and they are both outlaws of Islam.
I know that no need to mention the obvious. my point is why assad and ISIS arnt fighting each other like in iraq ? why assad dosnt drop barrel bombs on them ? while he dosnt mind dropping them on schools and civilians. do they work together or more accurately is ISIS in syria infiltrated by assad men ?
we know for a fact that iran and syria was hosting al-qaeda members and leaders for many years.
there was a time that almaliki and alassad attacked each other. almaliki use to say and threat alassad if he dosnt stop sending al-qaeda fighters to iraq he will take actions. it was that bad between them until things changed the past few years.
 

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I don't support them,but i also admit that.
But,we can't really say that their adversaries are 'professionnal'..

They seem to fight harder in Iraq than in Syria. I'm not sure how they still can mount offensives in Iraq. Either they have lots of manpower or excel at distributing the manpower. They also appear to be willing to take risks and have guts to do dangerous things, especially if they go for Baghdad. But I believe a lot of it has to do with incompetence of Iraqi army. The Iraqi Air Force/army is very late in providing supplies/support to their brigades under assault of ISIS offensives. And they end up fleeing or losing as a result of that. It doens't seem like there is much will to fight them in Sunni majority cities/provinces. Right now there isn't major threat to Baghdad because Iraqi army has control over Tikrit. So it's not possible for ISIS to go on offensive from east since forces from Karbala will ambush them from south. They have to takeover Tikrit again and launch offensive from west and north in order for situation to get serious. As of now the IA is able to keep Tikrit in their control and Baghdad has good defenses. But ISIS is trying to take over Bejeii as we speak.

I know that no need to mention the obvious. my point is why assad and ISIS arnt fighting each other like in iraq ? why assad dosnt drop barrel bombs on them ? while he dosnt mind dropping them on schools and civilians. do they work together or more accurately is ISIS in syria infiltrated by assad men ?
we know for a fact that iran and syria was hosting al-qaeda members and leaders for many years.
there was a time that almaliki and alassad attacked each other. almaliki use to say and threat alassad if he dosnt stop sending al-qaeda fighters to iraq he will take actions. it was that bad between them until things changed the past few years.

They are fighting in Syria, specifally in eastern Homs. Yesterday they almost took over Palmyra, which if they did would cut off supply routes for Syrian army in Aleppo. Which means the FSA would be able to take over remaining portion of Aleppo. If they succeed doing that, they can send their forces south to Hama, and ISIS if they took over Palmyra could have began offensive from east of Hama/Homs. If this happens Hama will fall to rebels quicker than you think and then Homs will easily fall. What is left would be coastal cities. If they do that all they need to do is go south and ISIS from east towards Damascuss. This is the military situation that would occur if regime loses Palmyra and towns west of it.

Look at map:

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So the US has killed one of the ISIS top commanders and taken his wife hostage yesterday. That is good news for the war against these vermin. I only hope the US will continue to target the heads of this terrorist group and taken them out one at a time.
 

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Isis way of thought has reached Al Aqsa mosque..


Fighting Daesh entails speaking against people like this.
 

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Isis way of thought has reached Al Aqsa mosque..


Fighting Daesh entails speaking against people like this.

MEMRI is known for its fabrication. Cutting stuff out of their context. We all know that what the man in the video is talking about was revealed in a specific occasion during the siege of Makkah. Distortion of facts for whatever reason is very very dangerous. Let's not be a tool in the hands of the enemy.
 

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MEMRI is known for its fabrication. Cutting stuff out of their context. We all know that what the man in the video is talking about was revealed in a specific occasion during the siege of Makkah. Distortion of facts for whatever reason is very very dangerous. Let's not be a tool in the hands of the enemy.
Here is the original link for his whole speech
You can judge for yourself.

And he is not talking about any seige of makka, he wants one caliphate that actively spreads 'Islam' through force and fear, killing many innocent non Muslims, even those who are peaceful, even if they're not attacked. This is what Isis is doing. I'm surprised he hasn't gone to raqqa yet.
 

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Here is the original link for his whole speech
You can judge for yourself.

And he is not talking about any seige of makka, he wants one caliphate that actively spreads 'Islam' through force and fear, killing many innocent non Muslims, even those who are peaceful, even if they're not attacked. This is what Isis is doing. I'm surprised he hasn't gone to raqqa yet.

I have yet to listen to the full speech. I was merely pointing out that MERMI is known for its fabrication. I can post tens of videos that prove my point. If he said so then he is an idiot. The Quran clearly stated that no compulsion in religion. Prophet lived among non Muslims so did the Caliphates after him.

Anyway, Religions are sometime used to justify or pursue an idea/goal and Islam is one of those religions that has been hijacked by some for political purposes. Pushing the clash of civilization here and there.
 

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Isis way of thought has reached Al Aqsa mosque..


Fighting Daesh entails speaking against people like this.

Good, we should start with Jordan. ROFL

Europeans chose a union. Middle easterners chose caliphate. Whether you like it or not, the Prophet said it would make a return in end times. So get ready to accept it. :)

The situation has nothing to do with non believers. It's about social/political system of ME and is internal affair. This is why the fight is between Muslims in the region. Its a middle eastern problem which the people want to settle. Who will prevail or how it will it occur? Nobody knows yet, it's yet to be seen.
 
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Good, we should start with Jordan. ROFL

Europeans chose a union. Middle easterners chose caliphate. Whether you like it or not, the Prophet said it would make a return in end times. So get ready to accept it. :)

The situation has nothing to do with non believers. It's about social/political system of ME and is internal affair. This is why the fight is between Muslims in the region. Its a middle eastern problem which the people want to settle. Who will prevail or how it will it occur? Nobody knows yet, it's yet to be seen.
It's not just Muslims in the region, you know. Many others peoples exist in the Middle East, not to mention the individual identities of each country. A 'caliphate' would be nothing like the EU, it would just be a miserable and impoverished place. And it will never be a reality because the 'people of the region' will never allow it to be. Isis and other extremists are not even 5% or the total Arab world. Most people just want to live in dignity and equal opportunity, not an extremist and dystopian future.
 
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