Yemen - Civil War

[Gabriel92]

RIP.
Downed ?

 

[Lieutenant]

RIP.
Downed ?

Malfunction.

 

[UAE]

RIP to the heros. Im not sad Im proud.

 

[UAE]

OK . You don't accept Wikipedia source. I give to you another source.

Wahhabism was founded by Mohammed Bin Abdul-Wahhab in 18th Century Arabia as an Islamic reform movement which felt that the local practice of Islam had lost its original purity. The movement formed an alliance with the founders of the Saudi dynasty which continues today. A modern militant version of Wahhabism is espoused by Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda organisation.

Source : BBC NEWS | Middle East | Wahhabi opponent killed in Iran

The sect is named for Muhammad bin Abd al-Wahhab, an 18th-century clan leader whose descendants helped the Saudi ruling family unify its kingdom in 1932. Members of the Wahhab family continue to hold prominent positions in the country.

Source : Wahhabism - religious cults, sects and movements

The modern Saudi state is founded on the 18th-century alliance between the Wahhabi religious movement and the House of Saud - the family that has ruled the Saudi kingdom since its creation in the 1930s.

Source : Wahhabism : Saudis Seek U.S. Muslims for Their Sect

I failed to understand what is the correlation between what you just posted and the ongoing discussion about terrorism!

Also there is nothing called Wahhabism except in your head. Islam has no sect. Only school of thoughts. Shia is another religion.

Their goal is not money, but resuming Iran phobia policies, just in line with previous sanction . this is the true meaning of deep hatred and bullshit and this is nothing new.

Of the 19 Sept. 11 attackers, 15 were citizens of Saudi Arabia. Zacarias Moussaoui, a convicted 9/11 plotter, confessed in sworn testimony to U.S. authorities that members of the Saudi royal family funded al-Qaeda before the attacks. The Saudi government strongly denies this.

Sources :
Saudi Arabia and the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks
Saudi Arabia funds and exports Islamic extremism: The truth behind the toxic U.S. relationship with the theocratic monarchy - Salon.com
Wahhabism to ISIS: how Saudi Arabia exported the main source of global terrorism

I encountered this before so no need to go over it again. Iraq and Iran along with the militias they created are slaughtering innocent people here and there and also siding with Assad who has killed 500k of his own people using every means of killing. The whole world acknowledged that except Iran.

 

[Gabriel92]

@WebMaster Finally,it's a Mirage 2000-9D

RIP to the heros. Im not sad Im proud.

Don't be sad,be proud such men existed.

 

[Schacht]

I failed to understand what is the correlation between what you just posted and the ongoing discussion about terrorism!

Also there is nothing called Wahhabism except in your head. Islam has no sect. Only school of thoughts. Shia is another religion.




I encountered this before so no need to go over it again. Iraq and Iran along with the militias they created are slaughtering innocent people here and there and also siding with Assad who has killed 500k of his own people using every means of killing. The whole world acknowledged that except Iran.

Excuse me if it irrelevant .

Simple matter. The problem in the middle east and the whole world is extremist and terrorist groups . such as Al-Shabaab, al Nusra, al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram are that all Sunni extremist.

Wahhabism is a major factor behind the rise of such groups as al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Boko Haram, while also inspiring movements such as the taliban and Wahhabism has been inspiring the ideology of the isis .

The fountainhead of Islamic extremism that promotes and legitimizes such violence lies with the fanatical "Wahhabi" strain of Islam centered in Saudi Arabia. And if the world wants to tamp down and eliminate such violent extremism, it must confront this primary host and facilitator.

For instance, a Wikileaks cable clearly quotes then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying "donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide." She continues: "More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups." And it's not just the Saudis: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates are also implicated in the memo .

Source : How Saudi Wahhabism Is the Fountainhead of Islamist Terrorism

 

[Scorpion]

Excuse me if it irrelevant .

Simple matter. The problem in the middle east and the whole world is extremist and terrorist groups . such as Al-Shabaab, al Nusra, al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram are that all Sunni extremist.



Wahhabism is a major factor behind the rise of such groups as al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Boko Haram, while also inspiring movements such as the taliban and Wahhabism has been inspiring the ideology of the isis .

The fountainhead of Islamic extremism that promotes and legitimizes such violence lies with the fanatical "Wahhabi" strain of Islam centered in Saudi Arabia. And if the world wants to tamp down and eliminate such violent extremism, it must confront this primary host and facilitator.

For instance, a Wikileaks cable clearly quotes then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying "donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide." She continues: "More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups." And it's not just the Saudis: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates are also implicated in the memo .

Source : How Saudi Wahhabism Is the Fountainhead of Islamist Terrorism

That's correct that all those claim to be Sunnis just like the 50 terrorist militias claim to be Shia. But what ones is Iran fighting of those Shia militias? No. In fact Iran is behind the creations and arming of all of those militias. While Saudi Arabia has been fighting Al-Qaeda and ISIS since they emerged. Have you not questioned why al-Qaeda and ISIS are not targeting Iran but Saudi Arabia? Something fishy about that isn't it.

Something for your to consider is that Imam Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Wahhab is a Sunni of the Hanbil school of thought so I don't know why there is something called Wahhabi when the man himself follows other school of thought and not his own.

Another thing is that Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Wahhab movement revolves around monotheism and has nothing to do with islamic jurisprudence. The only ones who hate him are those who like to worship graves.

The pot calling the kettle black. Hilary Clinton herself is war criminal and must be held accountable for the crimes she committed so does George Bush. Saudi Arabia is the founder of the UN anti terrorism committee and the sole funder of it. There is no country on earth that accuses Saudi Arabia of terrorism but there many who considered Iran a state sponsor of terror like Argentina and Canada for example.

 

[Schacht]

That's correct that all those claim to be Sunnis just like the 50 terrorist militias claim to be Shia. But what ones is Iran fighting of those Shia militias? No. In fact Iran is behind the creations and arming of all of those militias. While Saudi Arabia has been fighting Al-Qaeda and ISIS since they emerged. Have you not questioned why al-Qaeda and ISIS are not targeting Iran but Saudi Arabia? Something fishy about that isn't it.

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Something for your to consider is that Imam Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Wahhab is a Sunni of the Hanbil school of thought so I don't know why there is something called Wahhabi when the man himself follows other school of thought and not his own.

Another thing is that Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Wahhab movement revolves around monotheism and has nothing to do with islamic jurisprudence. The only ones who hate him are those who like to worship graves.

The pot calling the kettle black. Hilary Clinton herself is war criminal and must be held accountable for the crimes she committed so does George Bush. Saudi Arabia is the founder of the UN anti terrorism committee and the sole funder of it. There is no country on earth that accuses Saudi Arabia of terrorism but there many who considered Iran a state sponsor of terror like Argentina and Canada for example.

All these groups are Iraqi Shia militant groups active in the Iraqi insurgency and syrian civil war for fight against isis. there also sunni, christian, and yazidi groups the peoples mobilization was formed for deployment against the isis of iraq and syria .

And none of the Shia militant group not a terrorist group. and only Hezbollah's name is on the list terrorist groups. of course hezbollah emerged as a militant in response to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. and also recently Hezbollah in Syria entered the war with isis .

I have a question . Why isis not targeting Saudi Arabia ?

about al-Qaeda relationship with Iran's according to Reuters :
Al Qaeda's relationship with Iran's government has been fractious at best and openly antagonistic at worst, according to documents confiscated from Osama bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan and made public on Thursday. Documents seized by the Navy SEAL team that killed bin Laden a year ago provide more recent insights into Iran-al Qaeda dealings. In a letter to bin Laden dated June 2009, one of his lieutenants reported that the Iranians had released "a group of brothers in several batches last month," and were planning more releases, including possibly bin Laden family members, "within a week."

According to the analysis by West Point's experts, the Iranians likely were not doing this out of sympathy for al Qaeda. Rather, the analysis suggests, the letter to bin Laden indicates that Tehran freed some al Qaeda detainees in response to threats from al Qaeda and the November 2008 kidnapping of an Iranian diplomat stationed at Iran's consulate in Peshawar, Pakistan. The diplomat was released in March 2010. The study says one reason the Iranians may have held al Qaeda personnel for so long was to deter the militant group from attacking Iran. Another reason, the report suggests, might be that Iran was holding al Qaeda detainees as bargaining chips for future dealings with Washington.

Sources :
EU terrorist list - Consilium
Documents show tense al Qaeda-Iran relationship| Reuters

 

[Scorpion]

All these groups are Iraqi Shia militant groups active in the Iraqi insurgency and syrian civil war for fight against isis. there also sunni, christian, and yazidi groups the peoples mobilization was formed for deployment against the isis of iraq and syria .

And none of the Shia militant group not a terrorist group. and only Hezbollah's name is on the list terrorist groups. of course hezbollah emerged as a militant in response to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. and also recently Hezbollah in Syria entered the war with isis .

Fighting ISIS? Since when? You are completely clueless allow me to say. All these Shia militias are doing what in Diyala? Salah Al-Dain, Takrit، Baiji...etc, fighting ISIS or burning innocents alive, destroying mosques, homes..etc. All documented. Hizbollah in Syria is fighting the FSA not ISIS..........ISIS isn't present in Al-Qusayr town remember. Iran also isn't fighting ISIS but the rebels. Also remember that ISIS is composed of ex bathits who were set free by Assad and Nori-Al Maliki.


I have a question . Why isis not targeting Saudi Arabia ?

ISIS has launched many attacks inside Saudi Arabia, check Google. Its not published in Iranian medias as usual. But weird that you live in Germany and have not heard of ISIS several attacks on Saudi Arabia and before ISIS Al-qaeda.

about al-Qaeda relationship with Iran's according to Reuters :
Al Qaeda's relationship with Iran's government has been fractious at best and openly antagonistic at worst, according to documents confiscated from Osama bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan and made public on Thursday. Documents seized by the Navy SEAL team that killed bin Laden a year ago provide more recent insights into Iran-al Qaeda dealings. In a letter to bin Laden dated June 2009, one of his lieutenants reported that the Iranians had released "a group of brothers in several batches last month," and were planning more releases, including possibly bin Laden family members, "within a week."

According to the analysis by West Point's experts, the Iranians likely were not doing this out of sympathy for al Qaeda. Rather, the analysis suggests, the letter to bin Laden indicates that Tehran freed some al Qaeda detainees in response to threats from al Qaeda and the November 2008 kidnapping of an Iranian diplomat stationed at Iran's consulate in Peshawar, Pakistan. The diplomat was released in March 2010. The study says one reason the Iranians may have held al Qaeda personnel for so long was to deter the militant group from attacking Iran. Another reason, the report suggests, might be that Iran was holding al Qaeda detainees as bargaining chips for future dealings with Washington.

Sources :
EU terrorist list - Consilium
Documents show tense al Qaeda-Iran relationship| Reuters

So you admitted that Iran negotiated with terrorists?

 

[Jaeger]

UAE F-16s at a Saudi Airbase

 

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[Gabriel92]

@WebMaster

 

[Lieutenant]

@WebMaster

It has been debunked already. Only the Independent that is making such claim sourcing unknown Yemeni source. Al-Qaeda would have targeted the Apaches that are hovering over their heads let alone shooting down such highly sophisticated jet like the Mirage-2000-9D equipped with the highest defensive countermeasures against heat seeking missiles. Lets not talk about that lets talk about the outdated soviet SA-7 missile.

Sorry I'm not buying it.

 

[Schacht]

Fighting ISIS? Since when? You are completely clueless allow me to say. All these Shia militias are doing what in Diyala? Salah Al-Dain, Takrit، Baiji...etc, fighting ISIS or burning innocents alive, destroying mosques, homes..etc.
All documented. Hizbollah in Syria is fighting the FSA not ISIS..........ISIS isn't present in Al-Qusayr town remember.

I wonder how you compare Shia militias groups in Iraq with sunni extremist groups ISIS and Al-Qaeda ... etc. Shia and sunni militias groups are active only in iraq and syria and are fighting ISIS and not a threat to other countries. but Al-Shabaab, Al Nusra, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram and all Sunni extremists is a threat to all countries.

The presence of Shia militias in Salah Al-Dain to defend the tombs of several Shia Imams and fight with ISIS . also in the Tikrit the ISIS massacred more than 1,000 Shia soldiers from the Camp Speicher base last year, and many Shia accuse some local Sunnis of taking part. although the two groups have often been at odds, but have joined forces against ISIS.

Iran also isn't fighting ISIS but the rebels. Also remember that ISIS is composed of ex bathits who were set free by Assad and Nori-Al Maliki.

According to Iraqi officials Iran was the first country that helped to Iraq and enter the fight with ISIS .

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said that Iran was quick in sending arms to Iraq and helping Baghdad when ISIS captured the country's Sunni provinces.

Iraqi leader Hadi al-Amiri said that During the Second battle of Tikrit , Hadi al-Amiri said US has failed to live up to its promises to help Iraq fight ISIL, unlike the unconditional assistance being given by Iran.

"We asked for weapons and Iran was the first country to provide us with weapons and ammunition," Barzani said.

Iraqi commander slams US, hails Iran in fight against ISIS in Tikrit - CSMonitor.com
Iran supplied weapons to Iraqi Kurds; Baghdad bomb kills 12| Reuters

So you admitted that Iran negotiated with terrorists?

Police may also negotiate with hostage-takers and thieves. Does it mean that cooperation?