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Acquisition of J-15 for PAF- Air Superiority & Deep Strike Platfrom

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Out numbered YES, Out Gunned NO.

A casual look at both naval fleets shows your point is a patriotic one and not based on reality I'm afraid. And now I'd like to end this conversation before it gets to how my analysis is similar to x, y and z Indian statement. Thank you.
 

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The JF-17 was designed for PAF requirements, not for PN requirements. It has very limited range and payload that makes its use highly restricted in the maritime battle. It takes understanding of naval warfare to appreciate this. An army man or even an air force man will have limited understanding of naval warfare.

One cannot also claim "we are professionals". If you are professionals, so may be your enemies. Not everything works like a bollywood movie that you overcome all odds with your heroism. No serious professional ever talks like that.

Combat radius for a fighter is, by rule of thumb, one third that of range. This takes into account perhaps a few minutes of time on station, and mainly a2a loads. With heavy and bulky loads, this decreases further.

This by itself preculdes the JF-17 from being useful in any way or form in protecting SLOCs (a term I had to introduce as it seemed some others have no clue about it, and kept erroneously discussing this term in ways that is ridiculous and fantasy driven).

Naval warfare depends much greater on sustained presence than air warfare. This again precludes the JF-17 in many ways. Again, all these technical issues are not even understood by half baked analysis so common on the internet.

Right now Pakistani F-22Ps will be heading out to war against IN destroyers and frigates (let alone aircraft carriers and Brahmos equiped FLANKERS). If this is not being outgunned, I don't know what is. Again, patriotism gets the better of some and causes them to be left without meaningful argument and ends in ad hominems.
 

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I am not trying to be a phupho here but I havent even seen or read any positive thing about J-15 , I have complete trust on our Air Force and senior members here and i am very excitedly waiting for J-15 but it seems J-15 is not a well reputed jet with its accidents and issues , How will it able to make a tough impression on our enemies and specially Bakhts jinse hamny pora saal youtube comment section main larna hai ??
 

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I am not trying to be a phupho here but I havent even seen or read any positive thing about J-15 , I have complete trust on our Air Force and senior members here and i am very excitedly waiting for J-15 but it seems J-15 is not a well reputed jet with its accidents and issues , How will it able to make a tough impression on our enemies and specially Bakhts jinse hamny pora saal youtube comment section main larna hai ??
Forget J15 for PAF for a minute, take time to study OSINT on how J15 has progressed in the last half decade.
 

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Forget J15 for PAF for a minute, take time to study OSINT on how J15 has progressed in the last half decade.
Will surely do .Just a bit curious on colour scheme , What would be the colour scheme or in your opinion what should be the colour scheme of J-15s or J-10s if Pakistan decides to procure them , Same as Chinese or like the ones on F-7s .
 

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As per Khafee' statement, our J-15 have exceeded J-16 in capabilities but will it also have ram coating like this J-16?
 

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I am not trying to be a phupho here but I havent even seen or read any positive thing about J-15 , I have complete trust on our Air Force and senior members here and i am very excitedly waiting for J-15 but it seems J-15 is not a well reputed jet with its accidents and issues , How will it able to make a tough impression on our enemies and specially Bakhts jinse hamny pora saal youtube comment section main larna hai ??
If you note the accidents, they've all been during J-15's early years, and related to carrier take-off and landings. Remember this is China's first foray into carrier aircrafts, so some learning curve is expected. Our J-15s won't be carrier-based obviously.
 

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J-11B formation over China, Victory Day 70 (:-)
 

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yes checked later sorry. maripur ki taraf OP bana lu tu shayyed after magrib kuch kaam ki cheezain nazar aa jain aaj kal tu @baqai bhi vela betha huwaa haii bula lu uss ko bhi
I love my mirages :)
 
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