Acquisition of J-15 for PAF- Air Superiority & Deep Strike Platfrom

[Khafee]

with this info age ...dont you think Indians may have all the information regarding this development? even the numbers?

They might, but they wont be getting any confirmations from this forum.

 

[Wolf-PK]

and it is also possible that the info is highly cluttered ...it may be Js or not Js......

 

[Khafee]

Indian/US have already started saying that Chinese naval base is being built near Ormara/Gawadar area....and they will lable these machliyan as Chinese assets in Pakistani colours.

People like talking, can you stop them?

Secondly, the fallacy of this argument is, that given the close nature of Sino-Pak relations, any port in PK is open to PLAN. Before Ormara / Gawadar PLAN never visited Pakistan?

Lastly, as to what colors your adversary flies, when he beats the crap out of you, is irrelevant in the real world. Only trolls fret over such irrelevant details.

Cheers!

 

[Khafee]

and it is also possible that the info is highly cluttered ...it may be Js or not Js......

Stop fishing for intel.

 

[Khafee]

@Mastankhan Khan Sahab, your presence on this thread would be appreciated.

 

[Khafee]

The main reason why Pakistan didn't acquire Any large twin engine jets is the geography of Pakistan
We are a very narrow country with Indian air based dotted not far from our borders, all along
the border.
A large scale Indian air force attack involving 300+ jets and a wholly of Cruise missiles will be unstoppable and all Pakistani air bases will be bombed within 20 minutes of the assault.
Practically putting PAF out of action.
Then PAF will have to use highways as runways and large jets are not suitable for that.

I would like @Indus Falcon to answer your comment on twin heavies for PAF. In the mean time, please see this:

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Watch F-15 and F-16 Fighters Land on a Highway
Singapore trains its air force for a worst-case scenario.
Nov 16, 2016

The Republic of Singapore Air Force wants to demonstrate that the tiny, heavily armed nation could defend itself even after its military bases were smashed. And so it recently held Exercise Torrent, which involved turning a strip of Singaporean asphalt road into a makeshift airstrip for F-15s and F-16s.

Engineers went to work on 1.55-mile a stretch of Lim Chu Kang Road, clearing potential obstacles including 153 lamp posts, 58 road signs, and 12 bus stops. Next, a mobile air traffic control tower, solar powered airfield lights, distance-to-go markers, and path indicators were laid out to make it as much like a regular runway as possible. A mobile arrestor gear system, similar to the wire and tailhook landing system on aircraft carriers, was set up to cut the distance a jet needs to land.

Finally, trucks designed to suck up tiny bits of garbage and junk that could be lethal to turbofan engines came over from Tengah Airbase, a quarter-mile away, and gave the new airstrip a good vacuuming. Forty-eight hours later, F-15SG Eagles and F-16 Block 52 fighters made the first flights from the road.

Here's another look:


Singapore conducts exercises such as these to prove it can withstand enemy attack. The U.S. military, on the other hand, rarely trains specifically to operate from converted highways. An exception was last June, when, in a show of force designed to counter Russian intimidation in the Baltics, four A-10 Warthogs operated from the Jägala highway in Estonia.

Generally the deal for American allies is that the U.S. can provide airpower but the host country must provide a secure airfield. If America's allies want help to arrive on Day 2 of their war, it's up to them to follow Singapore's lead and make sure the Americans have somewhere to land.

Who knows? U.S. fighters too may someday be operating from the Lim Chu Kang Road.

 

[safriz]

I would like @Indus Falcon to answer your comment on twin heavies for PAF. In the mean time, please see this:

******************************************************************************************************************************************
Watch F-15 and F-16 Fighters Land on a Highway
Singapore trains its air force for a worst-case scenario.
Nov 16, 2016

The Republic of Singapore Air Force wants to demonstrate that the tiny, heavily armed nation could defend itself even after its military bases were smashed. And so it recently held Exercise Torrent, which involved turning a strip of Singaporean asphalt road into a makeshift airstrip for F-15s and F-16s.

Engineers went to work on 1.55-mile a stretch of Lim Chu Kang Road, clearing potential obstacles including 153 lamp posts, 58 road signs, and 12 bus stops. Next, a mobile air traffic control tower, solar powered airfield lights, distance-to-go markers, and path indicators were laid out to make it as much like a regular runway as possible. A mobile arrestor gear system, similar to the wire and tailhook landing system on aircraft carriers, was set up to cut the distance a jet needs to land.


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Finally, trucks designed to suck up tiny bits of garbage and junk that could be lethal to turbofan engines came over from Tengah Airbase, a quarter-mile away, and gave the new airstrip a good vacuuming. Forty-eight hours later, F-15SG Eagles and F-16 Block 52 fighters made the first flights from the road.

Here's another look:


Singapore conducts exercises such as these to prove it can withstand enemy attack. The U.S. military, on the other hand, rarely trains specifically to operate from converted highways. An exception was last June, when, in a show of force designed to counter Russian intimidation in the Baltics, four A-10 Warthogs operated from the Jägala highway in Estonia.

Generally the deal for American allies is that the U.S. can provide airpower but the host country must provide a secure airfield. If America's allies want help to arrive on Day 2 of their war, it's up to them to follow Singapore's lead and make sure the Americans have somewhere to land.

Who knows? U.S. fighters too may someday be operating from the Lim Chu Kang Road.

They are using arrestor cable same as used to aircraft carriers.

 

[Khafee]

They are using arrestor cable same as used to aircraft carriers.

I have seen F15's use thier air brake, and F16's use drogue chutes on temp runways on highways. The Singaporeans used arrestor cables dus to lack of space, otherwise a 3km strip is more than adequate.

Point was that twin heavies, can still use temp runways on highways.

 

[Wolf-PK]

Stop fishing for intel.

No its not like that....not fishing ...and don't need any intel....

 

[maxpane]

anu idea about the combat radius of j 15?

 

[Khafee]

anu idea about the combat radius of j 15?

Well before I give my answer, lets see what other members here have to say.

 

[TomCat]

@Khafee Sheikh saheb, was giving a thought to the J-15 thing, China has already started Manufacturing J-15B already, We all know they have a good rate of manufacturing, I guess what you said could actually come true, In a sense that China might be selling current one’s off at very cheap price, And such price tags do attract our acquisitions people generally, Example is Egyptian Mirages.

45 days seem too less, I will think of it around 90-120 days at most if it really happens.

 

[TomCat]

anu idea about the combat radius of j 15?

Visit Chinese-Military-aviation-blogspot.con

 

[Khafee]

Visit Chinese-Military-aviation-blogspot.con

Combat radius is incorrect.

 

[Khafee]

@Khafee Sheikh saheb, was giving a thought to the J-15 thing, China has already started Manufacturing J-15B already, We all know they have a good rate of manufacturing, I guess what you said could actually come true, In a sense that China might be selling current one’s off at very cheap price, And such price tags do attract our acquisitions people generally, Example is Egyptian Mirages.

45 days seem too less, I will think of it around 90-120 days at most if it really happens.

Just quoting you for future reference