China kills twenty Indian soldiers .... heading to the war!!!

[Counter-Errorist]

So wait 150 IA soldiers died?

20 deaths, 130 injured.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

20 deaths, 130 injured.

Oh ok cause there was a report frm 2 weeks ago where it was said that china killed 158 IA soldiers. Maybe india is just slowly releasing those numbers.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

Oh ok cause there was a report frm 2 weeks ago where it was said that china killed 158 IA soldiers. Maybe india is just slowly releasing those numbers.

An event like that would have let to a buildup in forces like we're currently seeing. Lots of IAF transport activity right now.

 

[Lieutenant]

Any more to come @2020?

 

[Counter-Errorist]

Any more to come @2020?

We're only halfway into it. Feels like a decade has gone by.

 

[Scorpio]

The most dangerous army in the world ??
Laughing is prohibited ???

 

[Zulu]

What options left for india both for short and long term ?
Short term
a)retaliate to satisfy its people(impossible as they were pushing it under the carpet from start for an reason they cant fight China even on limited scale )
b)some attack against Pakistan(again hard choice as after 27th they closed many opportunity for them and after getting replied on 27th forget IAF,and their Army and Navy got no such target for political game more danger of its going out of control)
c)safest choice using endian media keep that 1.3 billion indians ,idiots which giving last few year very simple but will damage them in long run

Long term
a)China and Pakistan both will keep and increase pressure
b)have to deployed and spent more resources to keep both in check which is already hard and corona and worst economy will make it harder in coming times
c)loss of strategic value in eyes of US as some Pentagon officials raised question about indian ability after 27th,and after start of recent clash many US journalsit also said here goes Indo-pacific term in drain as india cant protect its own territory,how its gonna help US to contain China as US planned for them
@HRK @Counter-Errorist Between rock and hard place cant describe it properly but using Karachi Tapoori language"""Aagy tambooo peechay bambo"' aab modi apna pichwara kaisay bachayee gaa

 

[Scorpio]

BBC News
لداخ میں انڈیا، چین کا سرحدی تنازع اور سوشل میڈیا پر تیسری عالمی جنگ کا ٹرینڈ: ’انڈیا چین کو دوسرا
پاکستان نہ سمجھے

’بالاکوٹ پر بڑھ چڑھ کر بولنے والے لداخ پر کیوں خاموش ہیں‘

تو اگر آپ نے ابھی موبائل اٹھایا ہے اور ٹوئٹر کا جائزہ لیتے وقت آپ کی نظر تیسری عالمی جنگ، لداخ، چین، انڈیا سرحدی کشیدگی اور بالاکوٹ جیسے ٹرینڈز پر پڑی ہے تو گھبرانے کی ضرورت ہے بھی اور نہیں بھی۔

www.bbc.com

 

[Scorpio]

Indo - China update.

Sat images courtesy Reuters & planet labs (taken on 16/6/20 at 13.29 IST) Guess what? LAC holds. Indian positions (1) unchanged, Chinese positions (2&3) reinforced but unchanged & the clash ridge (purple) shows the area of the stampede.

 

[HRK]

What options left for india both for short and long term ?
Short term
a)retaliate to satisfy its people(impossible as they were pushing it under the carpet from start for an reason they cant fight China even on limited scale )
b)some attack against Pakistan(again hard choice as after 27th they closed many opportunity for them and after getting replied on 27th forget IAF,and their Army and Navy got no such target for political game more danger of its going out of control)
c)safest choice using endian media keep that 1.3 billion indians ,idiots which giving last few year very simple but will damage them in long run

Long term
a)China and Pakistan both will keep and increase pressure
b)have to deployed and spent more resources to keep both in check which is already hard and corona and worst economy will make it harder in coming times
c)loss of strategic value in eyes of US as some Pentagon officials raised question about indian ability after 27th,and after start of recent clash many US journalsit also said here goes Indo-pacific term in drain as india cant protect its own territory,how its gonna help US to contain China as US planned for them
@HRK @Counter-Errorist Between rock and hard place cant describe it properly but using Karachi Tapoori language"""Aagy tambooo peechay bambo"' aab modi apna pichwara kaisay bachayee gaa

China will not go beyond the areas of her claim and would like to keep to conflict low intensity, while India might want to keep current conflict at low intensity with China, but letting the areas which as per indian claim under China occupation will hurt Modi and whole of right wing political parties of India, therefore India would certainly try to capture some areas which could hurt Chinese interest for exchange and for this India may engage Pakistan in AJK ....

 

[Scorpio]

 

[space cadet]

American intelligence believes 35 Chinese troops died, including one senior officer, a source familiar with that assessment tells U.S. News. The incident took place during a meeting in the mountainous region between the two sides – both of which had agreed to disarm – to determine how the two militaries would safely withdraw their presences from the region.

The meeting grew tense and resulted in a physical confrontation between the troops. According to the assessment, all of the casualties were from the use of batons and knives and from falls from the steep topography, the source says.

According to the U.S. assessment, the Chinese government considers the casualties among their troops as a humiliation for its armed forces and has not confirmed the numbers for fear of emboldening other adversaries, the source says.

The sources who spoke with the Times said 43 Chinese troops died in the fighting.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2020-06-16/dozens-killed-as-india-china-face-off-in-first-deadly-clash-in-decades

China just took a shot to the mouth, everyone is waiting to see how they react

 

[Counter-Errorist]

What options left for india both for short and long term ?
Short term
a)retaliate to satisfy its people(impossible as they were pushing it under the carpet from start for an reason they cant fight China even on limited scale )
b)some attack against Pakistan(again hard choice as after 27th they closed many opportunity for them and after getting replied on 27th forget IAF,and their Army and Navy got no such target for political game more danger of its going out of control)
c)safest choice using endian media keep that 1.3 billion indians ,idiots which giving last few year very simple but will damage them in long run

Long term
a)China and Pakistan both will keep and increase pressure
b)have to deployed and spent more resources to keep both in check which is already hard and corona and worst economy will make it harder in coming times
c)loss of strategic value in eyes of US as some Pentagon officials raised question about indian ability after 27th,and after start of recent clash many US journalsit also said here goes Indo-pacific term in drain as india cant protect its own territory,how its gonna help US to contain China as US planned for them
@HRK @Counter-Errorist Between rock and hard place cant describe it properly but using Karachi Tapoori language"""Aagy tambooo peechay bambo"' aab modi apna pichwara kaisay bachayee gaa

@Khafee @Zeeman @Mastankhan @HRK

India can already blockade China's trade route at Andaman Islands. China just wants to secure the CPEC route. CPEC is China's future energy security. Block CPEC and Andaman, China starts losing oil reserves very quickly and its warfighting capability dwindles with each passing hour.

India thought it could choke China's jugular vein by building the requisite infrastructure a stone-throw away from the Karakoram pass - threatening to close it down at its will. The move was a miscalculation and frankly, brash. India doesn't have the economy, military or diplomatic clout to threaten China in any way, let alone at its lifeline.

I'm pretty sure they got a lot of nudges and encouragement from the US to empower its ego. Though I'm not sure how much the US is actually interested in committing. US never attacks directly any enemy that can threaten its mainland in any way. Historically, it solves these sort of problems by arming its opponent and letting CIA loose.

India is pissed scared. They will likely look for a compromise where they get to dismantle their infrastructure and walk away with some sort of face saving maneuver for internal consumption.

China seems to have made the face saving deliberately difficult with yesterday's planned face mauling from a literal stone-throwing distance. India will need to do something drastic to satisfy its local populace, ensuring China has the pretense to escalate. This signals that China is not looking for small measures, it needs to hard-lock CPEC security, completely draining India's options and appetite to block it in the future. Doing so also ensures US loses complete faith in India's ability to disrupt China's security. Whereupon, India will be successfully contained.

 

[space cadet]

@Khafee @Zeeman @Mastankhan @HRK

India can already blockade China's trade route at Andaman Islands. China just wants to secure the CPEC route. CPEC is China's future energy security. Block CPEC and Andaman, China starts losing oil reserves very quickly and its warfighting capability dwindles with each passing hour.

India thought it could choke China's jugular vein by building the requisite infrastructure a stone-throw away from the Karakoram pass - threatening to close it down at its will. The move was a miscalculation and frankly, brash. India doesn't have the economy, military or diplomatic clout to threaten China in any way, let alone at its lifeline.

I'm pretty sure they got a lot of nudges and encouragement from the US to empower its ego. Though I'm not sure how much the US is actually interested in committing. US never attacks directly any enemy that can threaten its mainland in any way. Historically, it solves these sort of problems by arming its opponent and letting CIA loose.

India is pissed scared. They will likely look for a compromise where they get to dismantle their infrastructure and walk away with some sort of face saving maneuver for internal consumption.

China seems to have made the face saving deliberately difficult with yesterday's planned face mauling from a literal stone-throwing distance. India will need to do something drastic to satisfy its local populace, ensuring China has the pretense to escalate. This signals that China is not looking for small measures, it needs to hard-lock CPEC security, completely draining India's options and appetite to block it in the future. Doing so also ensures US loses complete faith in India's ability to disrupt China's security. Whereupon, India will be successfully contained.

I think you may have it wrong, India doesn't need to save face, China needs to at this point. The whole world is watching how they react

 

[Counter-Errorist]

I think you may have it wrong, India doesn't need to save face, China needs to at this point. The whole world is watching how they react

I don't think I do. Indian survivors of the attack clearly say they were attacked and had to flee, jumping off the cliff to escape. China even ended up capturing a bunch of Indian soldiers. Pray tell now, whose face needs saving here.

Currently the only ones claiming large Chinese casualties are the Indian media, British tabloids and the CIA - all equally credible.

India soldiers' deaths in clash not in vain - Modi