JF-17 related news.

[space cadet]

not sure if this has been posted before, but I think the F-16a gets the win

 

[Armchair]

The reason I believe Pakistan does have the PL-15 is - Ark Angel mentioned in one of his comments that PAF is waiting with an even longer stick than last time (27th Feb). Since no AAMs were acquired post 27th, it is very likely that the AAM he is talking about is the PL-15. That also is the only AAM accessible to the PAF that is even longer than the C5

 

[Mingle]

The reason I believe Pakistan does have the PL-15 is - Ark Angel mentioned in one of his comments that PAF is waiting with an even longer stick than last time (27th Feb). Since no AAMs were acquired post 27th, it is very likely that the AAM he is talking about is the PL-15. That also is the only AAM accessible to the PAF that is even longer than the C5

You never know about AIM D as well US plays funny ways sometimes

 

[HRK]

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Are those PL-15s ?

SD-10

 

[Counter-Errorist]

The reason I believe Pakistan does have the PL-15 is - Ark Angel mentioned in one of his comments that PAF is waiting with an even longer stick than last time (27th Feb). Since no AAMs were acquired post 27th, it is very likely that the AAM he is talking about is the PL-15. That also is the only AAM accessible to the PAF that is even longer than the C5

PAF doesn't generally publicize acquisitions. We fortunately don't have a framework requiring them to.

 

[Scorpio]

New engine for the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet is RD-93MA

A new engine for the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet, dubbed RD-93MA being developed by Russia’s United Engine Corporation (UEC)-Klimov has entered thermal chamber tests to confirm high-speed characteristics in simulated flight conditions.
The RD-93MA has been specifically developed to power single engine light fighter jets. It is an upgrade of the RD-93 engine which currently powers the Pakistani JF-17/Chinese Chengdu FC-1 single engine fighter jets.

With the successful completion of the thermal chamber test stage, it will be possible to proceed to flight design tests. A set of tests in the TsIAM large thermal pressure chamber will be held as part of the experimental design work on the RD-93MA, a UEC statement said today.

During the tests, the engine will simulate conditions as close as possible to actual flight. Here, the BARK-93MA, the automatic control system of the engine, designed and manufactured at UEC-Klimov, will also be put to test.

The thrust of the RD-93MA is expected to 9300 Kgf compared to 8300 kgf of the RD-93, a significant bump-up in power which will help the JF-17/FC-1 to carry more armaments and fly at a higher speed (this information is not from UEC but earlier published sources).

“The RD-93MA engine is distinguished by improved operational characteristics, increased thermodynamic parameters, a larger fan and an upgraded automatic power plant control system. The main engine parameters are also enhanced- the assigned resource and thrust, an emergency engine start mode is provided, and the possibility of emergency fuel drain is realized.” the statement said.

“All this is due to the specifics associated with the possible use of the power plant on a single-engine aircraft, which entails additional safety requirements,” the statement added leaving no doubt as to its potential applications for an foreign customer as Russia does not possess a single-engine fighter jet.

“The start of testing was preceded by a long preparatory phase. During 2018-2019 design documentation was handed over to manufacturing plants, production was organized in a new cooperation structure, engine models of the RD-93MA were developed and a new engine "harness" was manufactured. In addition, tests of the VK-100-1MK turbo-starter in the TsIAM heat chamber according to confirmation of high-altitude launch were conducted. Prototypes of the BARK-93MA (automatic engine control system) were made and much more,” the statement said.

The JF-17 block III, a highly advanced version of the JF-17 Block II, was test flown for the first time at the start of this year. Besides the engine, the key upgrade is an AESA- Active electronically scanning array- radar which has already been selected from a Chinese manufacturer.

Earlier reports said the RD-93MA engine will be directly sold to Pakistan. However, sources told Military Cognizance that the engine upgrade work is under contract from a Chinese company for which over 100 such engines is to be manufactured.
The engine is expected to enter fight test mode towards the end of the year which means the JF-17 Block III would enter flight tests with the RD-93MA engine sometime in 2021-22 at the earliest.

 

[TomCat]

New engine for the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet is RD-93MA

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A new engine for the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet, dubbed RD-93MA being developed by Russia’s United Engine Corporation (UEC)-Klimov has entered thermal chamber tests to confirm high-speed characteristics in simulated flight conditions.
The RD-93MA has been specifically developed to power single engine light fighter jets. It is an upgrade of the RD-93 engine which currently powers the Pakistani JF-17/Chinese Chengdu FC-1 single engine fighter jets.

With the successful completion of the thermal chamber test stage, it will be possible to proceed to flight design tests. A set of tests in the TsIAM large thermal pressure chamber will be held as part of the experimental design work on the RD-93MA, a UEC statement said today.

During the tests, the engine will simulate conditions as close as possible to actual flight. Here, the BARK-93MA, the automatic control system of the engine, designed and manufactured at UEC-Klimov, will also be put to test.

The thrust of the RD-93MA is expected to 9300 Kgf compared to 8300 kgf of the RD-93, a significant bump-up in power which will help the JF-17/FC-1 to carry more armaments and fly at a higher speed (this information is not from UEC but earlier published sources).

“The RD-93MA engine is distinguished by improved operational characteristics, increased thermodynamic parameters, a larger fan and an upgraded automatic power plant control system. The main engine parameters are also enhanced- the assigned resource and thrust, an emergency engine start mode is provided, and the possibility of emergency fuel drain is realized.” the statement said.

“All this is due to the specifics associated with the possible use of the power plant on a single-engine aircraft, which entails additional safety requirements,” the statement added leaving no doubt as to its potential applications for an foreign customer as Russia does not possess a single-engine fighter jet.

“The start of testing was preceded by a long preparatory phase. During 2018-2019 design documentation was handed over to manufacturing plants, production was organized in a new cooperation structure, engine models of the RD-93MA were developed and a new engine "harness" was manufactured. In addition, tests of the VK-100-1MK turbo-starter in the TsIAM heat chamber according to confirmation of high-altitude launch were conducted. Prototypes of the BARK-93MA (automatic engine control system) were made and much more,” the statement said.

The JF-17 block III, a highly advanced version of the JF-17 Block II, was test flown for the first time at the start of this year. Besides the engine, the key upgrade is an AESA- Active electronically scanning array- radar which has already been selected from a Chinese manufacturer.

Earlier reports said the RD-93MA engine will be directly sold to Pakistan. However, sources told Military Cognizance that the engine upgrade work is under contract from a Chinese company for which over 100 such engines is to be manufactured.
The engine is expected to enter fight test mode towards the end of the year which means the JF-17 Block III would enter flight tests with the RD-93MA engine sometime in 2021-22 at the earliest.

Source link

 

[safriz]

Looks like JF-17B has better tandem seats arrangement, for better forward view of the weapons officer, compared to F-16

 

[Mechanic]

New engine for the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet is RD-93MA

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A new engine for the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet, dubbed RD-93MA being developed by Russia’s United Engine Corporation (UEC)-Klimov has entered thermal chamber tests to confirm high-speed characteristics in simulated flight conditions.
The RD-93MA has been specifically developed to power single engine light fighter jets. It is an upgrade of the RD-93 engine which currently powers the Pakistani JF-17/Chinese Chengdu FC-1 single engine fighter jets.

With the successful completion of the thermal chamber test stage, it will be possible to proceed to flight design tests. A set of tests in the TsIAM large thermal pressure chamber will be held as part of the experimental design work on the RD-93MA, a UEC statement said today.

During the tests, the engine will simulate conditions as close as possible to actual flight. Here, the BARK-93MA, the automatic control system of the engine, designed and manufactured at UEC-Klimov, will also be put to test.

The thrust of the RD-93MA is expected to 9300 Kgf compared to 8300 kgf of the RD-93, a significant bump-up in power which will help the JF-17/FC-1 to carry more armaments and fly at a higher speed (this information is not from UEC but earlier published sources).

“The RD-93MA engine is distinguished by improved operational characteristics, increased thermodynamic parameters, a larger fan and an upgraded automatic power plant control system. The main engine parameters are also enhanced- the assigned resource and thrust, an emergency engine start mode is provided, and the possibility of emergency fuel drain is realized.” the statement said.

“All this is due to the specifics associated with the possible use of the power plant on a single-engine aircraft, which entails additional safety requirements,” the statement added leaving no doubt as to its potential applications for an foreign customer as Russia does not possess a single-engine fighter jet.

“The start of testing was preceded by a long preparatory phase. During 2018-2019 design documentation was handed over to manufacturing plants, production was organized in a new cooperation structure, engine models of the RD-93MA were developed and a new engine "harness" was manufactured. In addition, tests of the VK-100-1MK turbo-starter in the TsIAM heat chamber according to confirmation of high-altitude launch were conducted. Prototypes of the BARK-93MA (automatic engine control system) were made and much more,” the statement said.

The JF-17 block III, a highly advanced version of the JF-17 Block II, was test flown for the first time at the start of this year. Besides the engine, the key upgrade is an AESA- Active electronically scanning array- radar which has already been selected from a Chinese manufacturer.

Earlier reports said the RD-93MA engine will be directly sold to Pakistan. However, sources told Military Cognizance that the engine upgrade work is under contract from a Chinese company for which over 100 such engines is to be manufactured.
The engine is expected to enter fight test mode towards the end of the year which means the JF-17 Block III would enter flight tests with the RD-93MA engine sometime in 2021-22 at the earliest.

Block 3 was supposed to be inducted in 2019 , Many are even speculating that PAF has already start production and PAF will start inducting in last quarter of 2020 , If production is supposed to start in 2021-22 when will we upgrade our Block 1s and 2s .. After 2026 ??? There is a long queue of old F-7s and Mirages to be replaced , We cant afford that much delay

 

[safriz]

I think the people at defence world reached the wrong conclusion.
The Russian government contracts website says that its a study of material strength and feasibility for the first test flight of RD-93MA on a JF-17 before the supply of 400 engines can begin to the Chinese contractors.

Original Russian document with a crude online translation

Translation is ....

 

[Scorpio]

Source link

 

[Mastankhan]

I think the people at defence world reached the wrong conclusion.
The Russian government contracts website says that its a study of material strength and feasibility for the first test flight of RD-93MA on a JF-17 before the supply of 400 engines can begin to the Chinese contractors.

Original Russian document with a crude online translation

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Translation is ....

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Hi,

Thank you for the post---. To take the RD93 away and put another engine---would be a hurculean task---the russians would not let go that easy---and possibly the Paf would not either---.

Would be a very tough decision.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Improved version of the same old Rd93 for use in two planes, one is JF-17, other ..............

 

[Zarvan]

Improved version of the same old Rd93 for use in two planes, one is JF-17, other ..............

Other most LIKELY MIG 35

 

[Safri167]

Other most LIKELY MIG 35

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