JF-17 related news.

[Khafee]

You are kind of contradicting yourself . So US will not allow coproduced JF17 but yet allowed Russian made SU35 / Mig29 and alligators etc ???? Heck even Chinese drones are being used by the Egyptians.

Egyptians desperately need BVR equipped aircrafts in large numbers.
They are up against 450 state of the art BVR equipped Israeli and over 400 BVR equipped Turkish aircrafts .
F16s with the latest BVR cannot even compete with JF17......Egyptians need numbers not types of aircrafts able to launch BVR missiles .

Can you clarify the above in red, are you referring to the existing EAF Blk52's, or Blk70/72 as well.

 

[Zeeman]

sorry I meant to say without BVR .... none of the Egyptian F16s carry BVR so I meant to say BVR equipped JF17 can take on any of their F16.

F-16 Without AMRAAM: Egyptian Air Force Operates 220 F-16 Fighter Jets Without BVR Missiles - Fighter Jets World

A five-ship formation of Egyptian AF F-16C block 40s (#9981, #9969, #9984, #9976, #9973) over the py

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[Zeeman]

I believe they carry obsolete sparrows. By the way Iraqis also paid pretty penny and got sparrow equipped F16s....... why didn’t they go to French for Rafael is beyond me.

 

[Mingle]

I believe they carry obsolete sparrows. By the way Iraqis also paid pretty penny and got sparrow equipped F16s....... why didn’t they go to French for Rafael is beyond me.

US offered Iraq 2.5$$billions line of credit they purchase F16s with that money

 

[Mechanic]

Hi,

Engine manufacturer is not a co-developer of an aircraft---.

Sure , but can we sell our Aircraft without Russia's permission since they manufacture our engine , America block the sales of equipment all the time which uses American engine wether they are co developers or just engine suppliers

 

[Mechanic]

You are kind of contradicting yourself . So US will not allow coproduced JF17 but yet allowed Russian made SU35 / Mig29 and alligators etc ???? Heck even Chinese drones are being used by the Egyptians.

Egyptians desperately need BVR equipped aircrafts in large numbers.
They are up against 450 state of the art BVR equipped Israeli and over 400 BVR equipped Turkish aircrafts .
F16s with the latest BVR cannot even compete with JF17......Egyptians need numbers not types of aircrafts able to launch BVR missiles .

Egypt has kept a balance btw purchasing of American and Russian equipment but here we are talking about Egypt replacing an entire fleet of American jets with Pakistani/Chinese/Russian jets , Surely America wouldn't want to lose such a big customer of its fighter jets

 

[Blackbirdz!]

Egypt has ordered 24 Su-35s , 24 Rafaels , 40 Mig-29s that were upgraded recently i believe , Thats 88 BVR capable platforms and 48 of them way advance then JF-17 Why would EAF buy JF-17s and that too in large quantity with TOT and how can Pakistan allow EAF full production facility for JF-17 when even Pak is not able to completely produce all equipments of JF-17 , JF-17 has three partners , Pakistan ,China and Russia , US is not really sincere to Pakistan , And hates China and Russia ,Do you think US would allow its product to be replaced by a product that is co developed by 3 countries that it hates and that too in such a large quantity ?? US would offer to upgrade Egypts 40-50 F-16s to BVR capable rather than allowing 3 of its rivals benefit from 1 deal

JF17 Block 3 is as advance as F16V Block 70, hence better then both of these Russian aircraft and on per with Rafale if not better.

Besides EAF flies 220 non BVR F16 which r backbone of their fleet!

 

[Blackbirdz!]

Old news, but still golden!

Pakistani JF-17 Fighters Coming to Israel’s Border?
January 16, 2019 Air 13,346 Views



Egypt is interested in the purchase of JF-17 Thunder aircraft, Egyptian Ambassador to Pakistan Sherif Shaheen told Federal Minister for Defence Production Rana Tanveer Hussain during a meeting

The minister informed the ambassador that Pakistan was at present selling its traditional weapons to US, UK, Germany and some Far Eastern countries.
He offered the sale of JF-17 Thunder and Super Mashak to Egypt and said Iraq had already signed an agreement with Pakistan for the purchase of 20 Super Mashak while a deal with Turkey for the sale of 52 Super Mashak had almost been finalised.
Rana Tanveer emphasised the need for joint venture in defence production between the two countries. Ambassador Shaheen said Egypt was looking for collaboration with Pakistan in the defence industry.
A defense delegation from Egypt would visit defense production facilities in Pakistan to look into the possibility of buying defense-related products, he added. The minister invited the distinguished guest to visit defense production establishments of Pakistan.




The Egyptian Air Force has reportedly shown considerable interest in acquiring an advanced variant of the Sino-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder single-engine light fighter to replace its large fleet of aging second generation fighters. Egypt’s Air Force is currently among the largest in the world, but the country relies heavily on aging variants of the Soviet MiG-21 and French Mirage 2000 – of which several hundred are currently in service.

The country also fields a single squadron of Chinese J-7 fighters, acquired in the 1970s, and Vietnam War era U.S. manufactured F-4 Phantoms. These aircraft are all prized for their reliability and low operational costs, and give the Egyptian fleet a considerable numeric advantage over all potential adversaries, but have not been adequately modernized with up to date sensors, avionics or electronic warfare systems. These legacy aircraft also lack the ability to operate modern munitions – and in the air to air combat are restricted to short range engagements.

The JF-17 was designed to provide third world defense clients with a highly cost-effective and low maintenance fighter capable of deploying advanced modern munitions and represents a considerable upgrade two generations ahead of Egyptian legacy fighters.

The JF-17 Block 3 in which Egypt has show particularly strong interest makes use of confirming fuel tanks, state of the art electronic warfare systems and an active electronically scanned array radar – with its advanced capabilities making it a ‘4+ generation’ combat jet. The fighter’s low operational costs and maintenance needs mean that replacing older jets with the JF-17 will not significantly increase the overall operational costs of the Egyptian fighter fleet – the same which cannot be said for other fourth or ‘4+ generation’ systems such as the Russian MiG-29M or U.S. F-18 Hornet.

The JF-17 will not only represent an upgrade over Egypt’s legacy fleet, but the Block 3 variant will also be considerably more capable than the F-16 Fighting Falcons which currently comprise the mainstay of the country’s fighter fleet. While Egypt fields over 200 F-16s forming nine squadrons, these are primarily older variants of the Fighting Falcon which lack the advanced electronic warfare systems and sensors of their Sino-Pakistani counterparts.

The key advantage the JF-17 provides Egypt relative to the F-16 however is its ability to deploy modern air to air munitions – as Egypt has for decades been prohibited from acquiring U.S. AIM-120B air to air missiles – much less the more modern AIM-120C currently deployed by neighbouring Israel. The lack of the American AIM-120 has left Egypt’s Fighting Falcons reliant on decades old AIM-7 sparrow missiles for medium and long range air to air missions, and these platforms are both restricted in range and extremely easy to evade using modern electronic countermeasures such as those deployed by Israeli fighters.

Pakistani JF-17 Fighters Coming to Israel’s Border? - Fighter Jets World

Egypt is interested in the purchase of JF-17 Thunder aircraft, Egyptian Ambassador to Pakistan Sheri

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@Khafee so what do u think about this Egyptian interest? Is it real or just a rumor.

 

[Mastankhan]

Sure , but can we sell our Aircraft without Russia's permission since they manufacture our engine , America block the sales of equipment all the time which uses American engine wether they are co developers or just engine suppliers

Hi,

That is something different that you are bringing out---.

Regardless---the engine manufacturer is not a co developer of a fighter aircraft or any other type of aircraft---.

 

[Blackbirdz!]

Hi,

That is something different that you are bringing out---.

Regardless---the engine manufacturer is not a co developer of a fighter aircraft or any other type of aircraft---.

he is right, think about that potential Ukrainian interest in Block 3?

 

[safriz]

Size comparison

 

[Thorough Pro]

Exactly the same size. Can anyone try to cut one and paste it over the other to see if the sizes match?

Size comparison

View attachment 15052

 

[Graphican]

@Thorough Pro here is the comparison. JF-17 A and B has exactly the same length and width. I had to "skew" and "rotate" JF-17 (A) a little to match the camera angle.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Awesome!!

This puts to rest all theories of size change.
They already had all dies and fixtures, why would they make new ones for just for a squadron of Bravos? The numbers wouldn't justify the cost.

@Thorough Pro here is the comparison. JF-17 A and B has exactly the same length and width. I had to "skew" and "rotate" JF-17 (A) a little to match the camera angle.

View attachment 15096

 

[BATMAN]

Skardu Pakistan.

Video can be seen here:

巴控克什米尔地区斯卡都机场的JF-17

巴控克什米尔地区斯卡都机场的JF-17

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