JF-17 related news.

[Caprxl]

I believe PAF will be getting block 3s soon - they have been in production since November 2019. Assumed production rate is 24/25 per year.

Sir with due respect, I will disagree to this statement

Delayed ...only PT on work bench

Agreed plus a little bit of tooling here & there for Block 3 as well just to keep things in prospective

 

[Materialistic]

@TomCat @Caprxl

On disclosure of secrets and assets, I visited Indian defence forum the other day and one thing they kept saying was that Pakistan has exposed its assets unwisely to win a skirmish against India. Some "specialist" was saying that he cannot put his head-around why PAF giveaway its strategy that it built over 25 years just to shoot a Mig21.

After Feb 2019, India did realise how far off they are and what a gap they face against PAF. Now I just wonder if India has learned more than they should have about their weaknesses...

That part makes sense, we did too much for a skirmish and then way too much of chest thumping again for winning a skirmish and downing a Mig21 and comparatively not enough attention was given to annexation attempt of Kashmir over the past year. (Wont say further as it deviates from the topic).

And probably we were forced to do so because of inaction on 26th. When Indian jets came who countered them and how could they come in so deep without being challenged?(not my questions) These were the questions circulating whole day on media, socialmedia, defence forums and then came the announcement of giving a surprise which changed the mood. And then we gave a good glance of our operational capabilities.

Hint: Just see who's narrative is winning? What PAF/Pakistan State did on 26th & 27th has turned the tables that took India decades to set.

Honestly, did that really happen? Ofcourse the shattered confidence of our adversary is evident but as a narrative when looking at international media/opinions it looks like Pakistani F-16 downed an Indian Mig21and that's it.

I'm of those poeple who think we left too much on the table in the name of avoiding escelation when we had stepped it up ourself!

 

[Scorpio]

Pakistan Air Force’s PAC JF-17 4+ Generation multirole combat aircraft seen here with dual ejector racks

 

[Nightfox]

Did anyone read what "TheTallguy" had to say in the other world.Apparently the Chinese managed to make something bigger than the PL-15 that has Meteor level specs and bi-directional link.Thoughts ?

 

[Scorpio]

Did anyone read what "TheTallguy" had to say in the other world.Apparently the Chinese managed to make something bigger than the PL-15 that has Meteor level specs and bi-directional link.Thoughts ?

PL 21 ?

 

[Nightfox]

PL 21 ?

I dont know but he was confident about it.Go read the post its quite the read in a sea of arguments.He also mentioned the reason for the Block 3 delay in that post.

 

[Graphican]

Did anyone read what "TheTallguy" had to say in the other world.Apparently the Chinese managed to make something bigger than the PL-15 that has Meteor level specs and bi-directional link.Thoughts ?

PL-15 has a greater range than Meteor.

 

[Nightfox]

PL-15 has a greater range than Meteor.

He also mentioned bi directional link

 

[Counter-Errorist]

PL-15 has a greater range than Meteor.

That was my take as well PL-15 has greater range and 2-way datalink. So I think he was referring to something smaller than the PL-15.

 

[Thorough Pro]

These are ejector racks for bombs not missiles.

Pakistan Air Force’s PAC JF-17 4+ Generation multirole combat aircraft seen here with dual ejector racks
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[Caprxl]

Honestly, did that really happen? Ofcourse the shattered confidence of our adversary is evident but as a narrative when looking at international media/opinions it looks like Pakistani F-16 downed an Indian Mig21and that's it.

I'm of those poeple who think we left too much on the table in the name of avoiding escelation when we had stepped it up ourself

You will get the answer in few months if you cannot see it now when Pakistan will be out of FATF Grey list & VIPERS+ ZULUs & much more from West & especially USA make it to Pakistan.

For Kashmir, wait for few more years. Fruit is getting ripe at the moment.

Still you think it is otherwise, I respect that & will agree to disagree.

 

[Salza]

When Indian jets came who countered them and how could they come in so deep without being challenged?(not my questions) These were the questions circulating whole day on media, socialmedia, defence forums and then came the announcement of giving a surprise which changed the mood. And then we gave a good glance of our operational capabilities.

Actually in the beginning there wasn't much operational details available so people were just speculating that their jets reached Balakot, where was PAF bla bla bla. Heck the twitter awaam even didn't know what SOW really is. How one can attack enemy land from well inside your own territory. Next day when PAF did same at ease, everyone got a shut up call.

 

[Caprxl]

Actually in the beginning there wasn't much operational details available so people were just speculating that their jets reached Balakot, where was PAF bla bla bla. Heck the twitter awaam even didn't know what SOW really is. How one can attack enemy land from well inside your own territory. Next day when PAF did same at ease, everyone got a shut up call.

Exactly, I wrote a Piece in detail about it, few months ago on this very forum, I cannot recall the thread, will try to find & post it so confusions can be cleared IF there are any.

 

[Safri167]

much more from West & especially USA

sarkar, Ap b?
koi leak sheak

 

[TomCat]

You will get the answer in few months if you cannot see it now when Pakistan will be out of FATF Grey list & VIPERS+ ZULUs & much more from West & especially USA make it to Pakistan.

For Kashmir, wait for few more years. Fruit is getting ripe at the moment.

Still you think it is otherwise, I respect that & will agree to disagree.

When will we get out of fatf