Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[HRK]

Hi,

Syria fighting israel---

Syria gives it fighter aircraft to pakistani pilot to fight israel.

India fighting pakistan.

India gives its fighter aircraft to israeli pilot to fight pakistan.

Mastan bhai but it's a myth [I even dare to say it as fake news] that Israeli Pilots were deputed with Indian Air force, Officially [during the press briefing in PM house Islamabad] presence of of Israeli officials were noted and mention at the Missile Launching sites of India.

 

[Hawkeye]

Hi,

Why did you not ask that question when Syria---Iraq---Egypt gave their aircraft for pakistani pilots to fly in wars---?

Because they were short of Skilled pilots and were getting beaten by the IAF. Secondly that was a full war where they were protecting Syrian air space(defensive role) not like 26 Feb where Mirage's pilots role was to bomb a building. Unlike Indains I think Isreali pilots are not that dumb that they will fly a Fighter jet for a bombing mission to Pakistan that they have never flew. Just so Modi can win elections

 

[Scorpio]

Don't just listen to this. Try and understand it.

Thanks for sharing it's worth watching,
sir we have full trust and yakeenay Kamil that Pakistan is here to stay with karam of Allah.

evidence is that from its biggening we have agents and traitor's in our lines even in top most position that did what ever thay can but Mashallah Pakistan is standing stronger and healthy then past thay are no were

 

[Scorpio]

It remains to be seen, which will land first, bay hukum e Rabbi

@Khafee sir
Is any additional aircraft other then J15 we can see in PAF lines
Some rumors of PAF Category A pilots in changdu. Changdu have have no link with J15

 

[Gripen9]

yaap it was transferred after Kasinger played his role as officially under legal obligation Jordanian could not transfer those jet to Pakistan but they were quite late [I think it happened after December 10, 1971] and never saw any action in Indo-Pakistan 1971 war, Iranian [at the time Shah of Iran] actually denied any such transfer even when Kasinger himself meet with Iranian Authorities.

I have no knowledge about this transfer but would like to read about it .... so if possible share the link or material if you have related to this

From Fiza'ya, Psyche of Pakistan Airforce

The ex Luftwaffe F86s were actually Canadair built and had a Avro design orenda engine instead of J47 which produced 2000lb more thrust. We redesigned them as F86E.

The Jordanian F104s did see action esp. In the Thar/Rajistan section. I have seen photos of them in desert camo (ours were bare metal finish).
I think W/C Middlecoat was flying one that was shot down off Bombay. Ironically he had rushed back from Jordan to join the fight (a true son of the soil).


Here is an interesting article to read. We donated one of the Canadair built F86 to a museum in Canada in 1996.
A/C Kamran Qureshi who made it happen, unfortunately drowned while picnicking @ sea side in Karachi. My father passed away while taking part in his namaz e janaza a day later
His older brother A/C Taimur Qureshi was my father's course mate 36 GDP.

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[Mastankhan]

Because they were short of Skilled pilots and were getting beaten by the IAF. Secondly that was a full war where they were protecting Syrian air space(defensive role) not like 26 Feb where Mirage's pilots role was to bomb a building. Unlike Indains I think Isreali pilots are not that dumb that they will fly a Fighter jet for a bombing mission to Pakistan that they have never flew. Just so Modi can win elections

Hi,

My experience and assessment says that they did---please share your experience.

Israeli pilots do not decide who they volunteer to fight---. Their state does---.

And why are you bringing excuses for the israeli side while wearing a green flag---.

 

[War Historian]

It remains to be seen, which will land first, bay hukum e Rabbi


Don't just listen to this. Try and understand it.

Asalam u alaikum,
Sir @Khafee , from last 25 pages i reached on this conclusion. That F-16 new and used both are coming Insha'Allah. And Chinese J15 might also join PAF as sea guardian or S-400 counter. So in my idea after reading your all posts.might be the new jets would be like these.

PAF current fleet will be also upgraded to block 72 standard.(they are PW engine)

F- 16 EDA- older blocks will be upgraded to V or block 72 if PW engines are in those jets. Number might be 15 initially, could reach 40.

If those old jets will be GE engines then after upgrading these F-16 will be called block 70.

F-16 new - block 70 with GE engines initial numbers will be 18, it might goes to be double in long run. 36 Insha Allah.

J-15 Chinese flying shark. Initial order might 12 to 18. Later might be order more on a performance base input by the pilots.

Sir as you said EDA jets are under upgrading might be land at the end of the this year.

Insha'Allah better time will come soon for our air guardians. insha'Allah.

 

[Blackbirdz!]

the best way to confirm abt those goray pilots is to go to bhimber and confirm personally.

 

[Khafee]

Asalam u alaikum,
Sir @Khafee , from last 25 pages i reached on this conclusion. That F-16 new and used both are coming Insha'Allah. And Chinese J15 might also join PAF as sea guardian or S-400 counter. So in my idea after reading your all posts.might be the new jets would be like these.

PAF current fleet will be also upgraded to block 72 standard.(they are PW engine)

F- 16 EDA- older blocks will be upgraded to V or block 72 if PW engines are in those jets. Number might be 15 initially, could reach 40.

If those old jets will be GE engines then after upgrading these F-16 will be called block 70.

F-16 new - block 70 with GE engines initial numbers will be 18, it might goes to be double in long run. 36 Insha Allah.

J-15 Chinese flying shark. Initial order might 12 to 18. Later might be order more on a performance base input by the pilots.

Sir as you said EDA jets are under upgrading might be land at the end of the this year.

Insha'Allah better time will come soon for our air guardians. insha'Allah.

When you ask questions like these, better to put it down point-wise, so I can quickly address them.

1. EDA-Being upgraded now. IA the first ones should roll out within a months time. Then flt testing will determine when they are to be delivered.
2. NEW Blk70 - I have a figure in hand, but have been asked not to disclose, but can safely say a Sqdn has been approved. Whether it is a Sqdn like the Blk52's or not is another story.
3. PAF existing fleet upgrades - IF and when decided they will be upto Blk72 specs.
4. J15- Once they start landing in Pak Watan, we will discuss it then. BUT you are right on the part, more will be ordered once FOC is achieved.

If I missed anything, let me know.

Thanks!

 

[Hawkeye]

EDA-Being upgraded now. IA the first ones should roll out within a months time. Then flt testing will determine when they are to be delivered

So PAF has selected their frames?

 

[Khafee]

So PAF has selected their frames?

Can upgrades happen without airframes being selected?

 

[Old boy]

Can upgrades happen without airframes being selected?

For my knowledgd, for every upgrade air frame is changed.modified or alterd to some extent or only for major upgrades ?

 

[baqai]

@Khafee sir
Is any additional aircraft other then J15 we can see in PAF lines
Some rumors of PAF Category A pilots in changdu. Changdu have have no link with J15

@Khafee any comments on this

 

[Khafee]

For my knowledgd, for every upgrade air frame is changed.modified or alterd to some extent or only for major upgrades ?

When an F16 is upgraded, the only thing that remains old, is the engine, per se. Although after a complete overhaul, it is nearly a new engine.

The physical airframe gets an SLEP i.e. Service Life Extension Program, which physically strengthens the airframe life up to 12,000 flt hrs.

Then comes in the cockpit, radar, and other sensors / avionics.

 

[Khafee]

@Khafee any comments on this

JFT and Blk3 in particular, have everything to do with Chengdu, so why people are assuming a 3rd Chinese platform, is beyond me.