Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[Cookie Monster]

Only if we have the resources. It's going to cost us more to maintain separate facilities, infrastructure, personnel and fleet. Also we should ask the question whether we have a power projection agenda? Are we eventually going to be a maritime power and start operating aircraft carriers?

I think PN should have at least a squadron of twin heavies(like J15) regardless of whether they are still under PAF but based in Gawadar or somewhere else around the coast.

Pak needs it to counter the massive IN. Together with those missile trucks(J15), coastal batteries, surface warships, submarines, and other assets like P3C, etc...PN should be able to keep IN at bay.

IMO an aircraft carrier is an overkill and not really needed...still there is a need for a potent air arm for PN bcuz of the IN.

 

[AliYusuf]

I think PN should have at least a squadron of twin heavies(like J15) regardless of whether they are still under PAF but based in Gawadar or somewhere else around the coast.

Pak needs it to counter the massive IN. Together with those missile trucks, coastal batteries, surface warships, submarines, and other assets like P3C, etc...PN should be able to keep IN at bay.

IMO an aircraft carrier is an overkill and not really needed...still there is a need for a potent air arm for PN bcuz of the IN.

PAF can do that task quite well since they are being operated from the mainland anyways. Also net-centric warfare and C4I make inter-services cohesion a cinch. Also PAF excels in it's tasks. PN may need time to get to that level of expertise.

 

[Signalian]

Only if we have the resources. It's going to cost us more to maintain separate facilities, infrastructure, personnel and fleet. Also we should ask the question whether we have a power projection agenda? Are we eventually going to be a maritime power and start operating aircraft carriers?

starting with a heli carrier wont be bad - but that would mean amphibious Ops where as PM is treated like orphan by PN.

 

[Wolf-PK]

look at this :

Pakistan's indigenous fifth-generation fighter aircraft completes initial conceptual design phase

Pakistan’s “Project Azm” whose centrepiece involves development of its own fifth generation fighter has accelerated, with first of the four “conceptual design phase” cycles being concluded.

airrecognition.com

 

[TomCat]

look at this :
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Pakistan's indigenous fifth-generation fighter aircraft completes initial conceptual design phase

Pakistan’s “Project Azm” whose centrepiece involves development of its own fifth generation fighter has accelerated, with first of the four “conceptual design phase” cycles being concluded.

airrecognition.com

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It's a fanart, This design hosts some stupidly photoshopped thin canards, canopy and LERX of F-16

 

[Khafee]

Should PN ask for a separate Naval Fighter Wing ?

Absolutely! Its high time they did.

 

[Caprxl]

Can JF-17 fill the role for AS ?

I don't think so, not in current class, maybe IF Block4 = NG = Fl6 Block 70/72 ..., Still am doubtful , a brief look because you asked is as follows,

Characteristics may never be equal to Heavy AS Fighter

Time on Station / Combat Radius, MTOW, No of Hardpoints, Electrical Power Output (taking that mostly aircraft for AS are dual engines) therefore a Wild Weasel etc ...,

Characteristics which can be met / incorporated in a Medium Weight Class

ECCM, AESA, IRST, HMDS & an Electronic Suite Well Integrated with all these + New Generation AAM kind of Pl-15 , Meteor, An EW model might / might not depending upon Engine electrical output etc.

Maybe I left many a points, but it just gave an overview.

BUT What are you trying to imply?

 

[TomCat]

If EF is dead now, how about we get 2-3 squadrons (in batches) of J-10C to serve as a highly customizable MW fighter, features that it can provide us compared to thunder (LW Fighter) would be more payload capacity, FADEC, Increased range, OBOGS, Customized ECM suite and possibly PL-21 (if J-10C could accomodate it that is most probably a no). We will have not a perfect but a very good response for Rafale and M2K

 

[Defence_reader]

look at this :
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Pakistan's indigenous fifth-generation fighter aircraft completes initial conceptual design phase

Pakistan’s “Project Azm” whose centrepiece involves development of its own fifth generation fighter has accelerated, with first of the four “conceptual design phase” cycles being concluded.

airrecognition.com

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Looks They put cannards on F22 Raptor

 

[Defence_reader]

It's a fanart, This design hosts some stupidly photoshopped thin canards, canopy and LERX of F-16

Its front look like su33 wit EF size canards
And rear f22

 

[Khafee]

Can JF-17 fill the role for AS ?

With data link, and PL-15, to a "certain limit" YES. But a true "AS" fighter no.

 

[Wolf-PK]

Looks They put cannards on F22 Raptor

Bhai intni jaldi tu yahi ho sakta hy.... ...some fanboy did this

 

[TomCat]

Its front look like su33 wit EF size canards
And rear f22

Rear looks like YF-23, and judging by this fanart's shape, it's intakes are similar to SU-57. Ohh, how crazy we are to discuss a fanart, however, the concept displayed on C-130 tail by PAF is similar to what you posted.

THIS IS F-16 THREAD, AZM IS TO BE DISCUSSED ON AZM'S THREAD

 

[TomCat]

With data link, and PL-15, to a "certain limit" YES. But a true "AS" fighter no.

J-10C can do that. It is built to do effectively as well even though it's a Multirole

 

[CHI RULES]

If EF is dead now, how about we get 2-3 squadrons (in batches) of J-10C to serve as a highly customizable MW fighter, features that it can provide us compared to thunder (LW Fighter) would be more payload capacity, FADEC, Increased range, OBOGS, Customized ECM suite and possibly PL-21 (if J-10C could accomodate it that is most probably a no). We will have not a perfect but a very good response for Rafale and M2K

CFTs and thrust vectoring can also be made available in case of J10C