Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[Scorpio]

USAF, Lockheed finalizing $62B contract to sell allies commoditized F-16 jets
By Sara Sirota / April 20, 2020

The Air Force's F-16 program office is finalizing a contract worth up to $62 billion with Lockheed Martin to provide foreign partners a standard version of the advanced Block 70/72 Viper variant -- starting with Morocco and Taiwan. The indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity deal is the first of its kind for the F-16 program and part of a new commoditization approach to foreign military sales.


US Air Force wants commoditised F-16 for easier Foreign Military Sales

Sir Pakistan still in game for f16 in context of afgan usa deal outcome, or option dried out for Pakistan

 

[Gripen9]

Sir Pakistan still in game for f16 in context of afgan usa deal outcome, or option dried out for Pakistan

My understanding is that the planes are available to Pakistan (there will be no opposition from the US Congress). Sticking point is funding. Pakistan wants it to be funded via frozen CSF funds, which by our calculations are 10-12b.

 

[Defence_reader]

When i see f16 related threads active rush and check out in hope may be new f16 for PAF announced....

 

[Khafee]

Sir Pakistan still in game for f16 in context of afgan usa deal outcome, or option dried out for Pakistan

J15 first IA, then......

 

[Defence_reader]

J15 first IA, then......

Sir back in discussion f16 was 1st flying sharks was later only your concern was not at the cost of Kashmir. & su 35 was decoy.

 

[Scorpio]

J15 first IA, then......

Most interesting thing is sir "then" specifically when it came from ur side, will be waiting

 

[Scorpio]

My understanding is that the planes are available to Pakistan (there will be no opposition from the US Congress). Sticking point is funding. Pakistan wants it to be funded via frozen CSF funds, which by our calculations are 10-12b.

Sir CSF is then case, bcuz be cant offord on hard cash this the reality, otherwise going russia was cheaper option,
My question mean is CSF option is available in actual or just our wish

 

[Khafee]

Sir back in discussion f16 was 1st flying sharks was later only your concern was not at the cost of Kashmir. & su 35 was decoy.

Absolutely! But that is not the case anymore.

 

[Gripen9]

Sir CSF is then case, bcuz be cant offord on hard cash this the reality, otherwise going russia was cheaper option,
My question mean is CSF option is available in actual or just our wish

If it wasn't, then we would not be hearing any of these rumors. It must have been floated as a carrot for Pakistan to bring Taliban to the table. Which we did. And the agreement b/w Taliban and the US Gov has gone ahead. Taliban have kept to their word in the past few months. Lets see how it shakes out.

Now analyze the news at hand. A 62b contract has been finalized b/w US Gov & LM. 62b order means around 240 aircraft.
Break it down by country: 25 - Morocco, 66+ Taiwan, 18 - Jordan, 40 - Poland (maybe). Bulgaria & Croatia maybe 20 each. Who else is left to buy. Indonesia ? I think they are more interested in Su35s. Egypt has gone Rafale/Mig35 route. So conservatively 40+ aircraft for an existing operator.

Again just my opinion based on news available.

 

[Defence_reader]

If it wasn't, then we would not be hearing any of these rumors. It must have been floated as a carrot for Pakistan to bring Taliban to the table. Which we did. And the agreement b/w Taliban and the US Gov has gone ahead. Taliban have kept to their word in the past few months. Lets see how it shakes out.

Now analyze the news at hand. A 62b contract has been finalized b/w US Gov & LM. 62b order means around 240 aircraft.
Break it down by country: 25 - Morocco, 66+ Taiwan, 18 - Jordan, 40 - Poland (maybe). Bulgaria & Croatia maybe 20 each. Who else is left to buy. Indonesia ? I think they are more interested in Su35s. Egypt has gone Rafale/Mig35 route. So conservatively 40+ aircraft for an existing operator.

Again just my opinion based on news available.

Bhai ap india ko a bhool jaty ho india le na le but usa usy de ga zaroor
Or ham ko bhi zyada khush fehmi main ni rehna chayie

 

[Gripen9]

Bhai ap india ko a bhool jaty ho india le na le but usa usy de ga zaroor
Or ham ko bhi zyada khush fehmi main ni rehna chayie

India will directly deal with LM for F-21s and take around 40 years to finalize the order

 

[Gripen9]

Bhai ap india ko a bhool jaty ho india le na le but usa usy de ga zaroor
Or ham ko bhi zyada khush fehmi main ni rehna chayie

No kush fehmi. Just making an educated guess based on news available. It might be 120 for Taiwan (as they need F-CK-1 Ching-kuo and M2k). But as of right now 66 new F-16 blk 70/72 have been approved for Taiwan. 100 could be for for Poland to replace all legacy Soviet planes.

 

[Defence_reader]

No kush fehmi. Just making an educated guess based on news available. It might be 120 for Taiwan (as they need F-CK-1 Ching-kuo and M2k). But as of right now 66 new F-16 blk 70/72 have been approved for Taiwan. 100 could be for for Poland to replace all legacy Soviet planes.

Sir as indian concerns of long delays they just ruined our market no thing else we purchase not much as indian so due to huge milky market of india seller always prefer profity countries. They will never lose a markeat for the sake of max 2 Squadrons f16. Where instead they hope at least six Squadrons of jets & other goodies will go and got some liverage too

 

[Khafee]

No kush fehmi. Just making an educated guess based on news available. It might be 120 for Taiwan (as they need F-CK-1 Ching-kuo and M2k). But as of right now 66 new F-16 blk 70/72 have been approved for Taiwan. 100 could be for for Poland to replace all legacy Soviet planes.

One thing is for sure, DoD will keep the production line open. This US$62b is to insure it remains open, and keeps churning them out.

 

[Gripen9]

Sir as indian concerns of long delays they just ruined our market no thing else we purchase not much as indian so due to huge milky market of india seller always prefer profity countries. They will never lose a markeat for the sake of max 2 Squadrons f16. Where instead they hope at least six Squadrons of jets & other goodies will go and got some liverage too

Please understand, this is US government buying from LM for their allies. As far as LM is concerned, all 250 are for are for USAF.