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Important updates:

-Faction of rebels gave Russian Air Force ISIS targets to strike

-Southern Front sponsored by Jordan not making any advances

-Rebels in north assassinating commanders of groups who don't want to fight ISIS

-US sponsored rebels in north, instead of fending off regime advances are working with Kurds and calling US air strikes to go on offensive against ISIS

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This is why you people will get nowhere in life and this is why God refuses to give victory to rebels. They are cheap whores who will sell their faith for US political support and willing to destroy all of Syria for sake of Arab regimes/international regimes. ISIS is the only movement with straightforward agenda of defending Muslims, implementing Islam and not cooperating with any foreign regimes. And this is why every single rebel group will collapse and will be expelled to Turkey or Jordan or join ISIS.

Look in Ghouta, instead of breaking the siege, Jaysh Al Islam is trying to crack down on ISIS since the people want ISIS instead of those who only use their weapons for sake of keeping their throne. In Palestinian refugee camp, same case, Palestinian militias instead of breaking siege and fighting regime are fighting ISIS.

In Aleppo, ISIS is doing everything in its hands to prevent regime advances against rebels. The rebels return the favor by calling coalition air strikes on ISIS and ignoring regime offensives. And then some retard Arab 'political analyst' says ISIS is following Iranian orders. You guys are a joke and will get nowhere in life.
 

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IraqiSuryani ‏@IraqiSuryani1 6m6 minutes ago
#Syria Several sources say the #Syrian Army (#SAA) has captured the village of Sheikh Ahmed near Kuweires military airport #Aleppo
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Terrormonitor.org ‏@Terror_Monitor 1h1 hour ago
#SYRIA #IslamicState (#ISIS) Terror Group Claims To Have Destroy Army Convoy In #Sheikh_Ahmad Of #Aleppo: Statement.
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ISIS source translated says 50 barrel bombs used in Sheikh Ahmed and 15 coalition/russian air raids
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Mr_Krijn ‏@Mr_Krijn 24m24 minutes ago
new #SAA offensive south #aleppo towards M5 #Zitan

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Aleppo is of high importance for regime more than anything else because of ability to cut off rebels, regain regime supply to north, besiege Idlib and cause total collapse for rebels. This is why Russia air strikes are heavily targeting Aleppo and causing mass civilian carnage, they want to cause state of shock and despair to lower morale of people but also speed up offensive.

If Aleppo is lost and Iranian militias/Hezbollah keep making gains over short periods of time then Arabs can't demand nothing at Vienna it will be too late. This is why they're trying to make the offensive as fast as possible.
 

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You don't need official agreement, imagine how angry Saudi and Emirate people will be if Arab media publishes details of an official agreement. Our governments know we will get upset. Hence they will not make anything public or official. Our problem is that we wait on them, we we can observe their attitude towards conflict. And their attitude towards conflict has been that Assad regime is better option. Even if Assad himself disappears, the same regime will be intact. Except they will add a couple FSA members to the government and call the revolution over.

There is nothing that indicates any of what you have posted. The meeting is to see how serious Russia is in the political transition based on Geneva 1. There is no agreement till this moment.
 

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MORE: Pro Government twitter accounts reporting #SAA withdrawal from Morek. #Syria.

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Ivan Sidorenko @IvanSidorenko1
#Syria #Hama #SAA Withdrew from #Morek 32 Minutes ago at 10 PM. and is fortifying #تل_اللحايا #SyrianArmy #SyrianArabArmy

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Man power shortage or what? Cities like this shouldn't be lost so easily. If they can capture one city in 1 hour why can't they try same for rest? What kind of planning goes into this? It almost seems like rebels await orders to go on offensives, which is annoying and wrong in so many ways.
 

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New alliances, new foes.

Things are changing fast in Syria and not for the better. The Syrian war whether other nations intervene militarily or not, will not end any time soon. It will be impossible for Assad to get back all the territory he's lost to rebels and ISIS. Russia, the U.S and others will lose interest in Syria when they realize they are spending too much money fighting a war that they won't win.

To counter the Russian's influence in Syria, Obama decided that the U.S should have some boots on the ground after all:

Syria: Obama authorizes boots on ground to fight ISIS - CNNPolitics.com
The United States is set to deploy troops on the ground in Syria for the first time to advise and assist rebel forces combating ISIS, the White House said Friday.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said that the U.S. would be deploying "less than 50" Special Operations forces, who will be sent to Kurdish-controlled territory in northern Syria. The American troops will help local Kurdish and Arab forces fighting ISIS with logistics and are planning to bolster their efforts.
 
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US has no interest besides containing majority of rebels. No rebels have cooperated with ISIS besides Jund Al Aqsa the group which recently captured Morek. Seems like rebel command was ordering them not to advance and Jund Al Aqsa defied such orders.

Turkey FM just stated Turkey will do military op against IS in coming days. Why so? Is it NATO pushing Turkey to test russia reaction ? I don't think so because coalition air craft are already in the air. Is it because IS is advancing in northern Aleppo areas and rebels want assistance? Or is it for buffer zone plan from a while back?

@T-123456

Either way, it shows the 180 degree turn taken by local nations. Rebels have no support, besides the couple dozen idiots getting air strikes to target Raqqa or Jund Aqsa/Nusra in northern Syria.
 

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The group which captured Morek:

Jund al-Aqsa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On 24 October 2015, they left the Army of Conquest[10]

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They left because coalition was 'mysteriously' being given targets to target the group. It's kind of funny that there are Arabs cheering for Jund Aqsa capture of Morek. Because they were bombing them in the coalition. Any Arab that supports his local government is not allowed to take pride in certain rebel factions victories since their governments oppose those groups. And hence it would be very hypocritical of them, they just ride the bandwagon and claim it as 'rebel victory' but when time comes they will assist FSA in targeting them.

Dumb retard Arabs really irritiate me, they try to make it appear as if they control the situation. Their attempt to get coalition to target Islamists and help FSA overthrow them failed miserably and only helped Assad. So now they're pretending Jund Aqsa is part of them or something. Even currently Arab pro-regime morons still have 'plans' to support minority FSA against majority Islamists if Islamists liberate the whole country. Hopefully that means as soon as Syria is liberated Islamists immediately go into Iraq and Jordan otherwise they will be victim to another Libya. Jordanian regime has gone too far, it needs to be destroyed.
 
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US has no interest besides containing majority of rebels. No rebels have cooperated with ISIS besides Jund Al Aqsa the group which recently captured Morek. Seems like rebel command was ordering them not to advance and Jund Al Aqsa defied such orders.

Turkey FM just stated Turkey will do military op against IS in coming days. Why so? Is it NATO pushing Turkey to test russia reaction ? I don't think so because coalition air craft are already in the air. Is it because IS is advancing in northern Aleppo areas and rebels want assistance? Or is it for buffer zone plan from a while back?

@T-123456

Either way, it shows the 180 degree turn taken by local nations. Rebels have no support, besides the couple dozen idiots getting air strikes to target Raqqa or Jund Aqsa/Nusra in northern Syria.
There were some talks about a six months transition for Assad,followed by elections in Syria,maybe Erdogan(+GCC,Israel and the US) and Putin(+Iran) have come to an agreement,which only leaves IS as the enemy?
The deal could also contain a free pass for Erdogan to go after the YPG,PYD.
 

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There were some talks about a six months transition for Assad,followed by elections in Syria,maybe Erdogan(+GCC,Israel and the US) and Putin(+Iran) have come to an agreement,which only leaves IS as the enemy?
The deal could also contain a free pass for Erdogan to go after the YPG,PYD.

There is no sign of deal, but if world powers think they can spark civil war then end it when their interests are met then they're foolish. GCC, erdogan, US or Jaysh Al Karr have no say in this matter. The Islamist rebels aren't stupid to fall into the trap and end up like both Gaza and Libya and abandon the revolution all while.

If they take my advice they will succeed in achieving self independence for Arab Muslims. If they accept international conditions to be submissive in short time they will be under siege. And then the uprising will completely fail, the conflict in Syria would then be one to weaken Sunni islamists and Iranian axis under false promises local nations made to support the 'revolution'. Yet in reality they're similiar to all nations which have no issue getting near a million people killed only to laugh at them. Islamists can't repeat Afghanistan scenario, Arab islamists are different and they will make sure all regimes are dismantled by the will of God.
 

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Looks like Iranian paramilitary, not the IRGC but regular military forces:

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They seem more organized, better coordination but small numbers won't help them too much. Similiar to Hezbollah forces(They train Hezbollah). However the offensive in Aleppo is succeeding for them.

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Meanwhile coalition air strikes in Deir Ezzor protecting regime forces from ISIS advance. US air strikes increasing in Syria/Iraq lately.
 

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Looks like Iranian paramilitary, not the IRGC but regular military forces:

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They seem more organized, better coordination but small numbers won't help them too much. Similiar to Hezbollah forces(They train Hezbollah). However the offensive in Aleppo is succeeding for them.

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Meanwhile coalition air strikes in Deir Ezzor protecting regime forces from ISIS advance. US air strikes increasing in Syria/Iraq lately.

Iran has so far lost 31 commanders since it announced its involvement in Syria which was month ago. One General per day. So much for the Iranian army. lol
 

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Iran has so far lost 31 commanders since it announced its involvement in Syria which was month ago. One General per day. So much for the Iranian army. lol

Well their structured ranking isn't like Western armies. Every lieutenant they have is considered some kind of 'field commander' or something else. So they essentially have thousands of 'commanders'. But in the video they are speaking Farsi it seems, they are leading Aleppo offensives. I am sure with it they will have losses. But a few dozen is nothing to be proud of. The Arab world and Muslim world is not observing the obligation it has towards the rebels. Hence why it will appear Iran is stronger than it really is, because Iran is actively supporting its allies and secures Western/Russian support in the process. Even if it is just for interests, they have dedication towards Shia's and Shia militias. Sunni Arab Muslims don't have a leading nation that his kind of dedication towards Sunni's or Sunni armed groups. That's partially because they're scared of Sunni armed groups.

Because unlike Shia groups which don't follow Islam, Sunni groups do and hence want Islamic society and state. Now because of what I described in previous paragraph, Iraqi and Yemeni front is going better recently for Iran and its supporters. Syria is only stalemate because there is many Sunni volunteers going there. Over time though if Iraqi and Yemeni front succeed they will use more resources in Syria. Primarily try getting many Iraqi militias to fight there.
 

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Well their structured ranking isn't like Western armies. Every lieutenant they have is considered some kind of 'field commander' or something else. So they essentially have thousands of 'commanders'. But in the video they are speaking Farsi it seems, they are leading Aleppo offensives. I am sure with it they will have losses. But a few dozen is nothing to be proud of. The Arab world and Muslim world is not observing the obligation it has towards the rebels. Hence why it will appear Iran is stronger than it really is, because Iran is actively supporting its allies and secures Western/Russian support in the process. Even if it is just for interests, they have dedication towards Shia's and Shia militias. Sunni Arab Muslims don't have a leading nation that his kind of dedication towards Sunni's or Sunni armed groups. That's partially because they're scared of Sunni armed groups.

Because unlike Shia groups which don't follow Islam, Sunni groups do and hence want Islamic society and state. Now because of what I described in previous paragraph, Iraqi and Yemeni front is going better recently for Iran and its supporters. Syria is only stalemate because there is many Sunni volunteers going there. Over time though if Iraqi and Yemeni front succeed they will use more resources in Syria. Primarily try getting many Iraqi militias to fight there.

No No if you follow the recent news, the rebels have been able to slow attacks on them. They reason is that they get heavy support from Saudi Arabia. Russia knows that and knows what we have done doing the war on Afghanistan. Syria is the most strategic country in this fight, Not Iraq or Iran. We will not allow Assad and his followers to succeed. Once we get our hand on Syria then the whole status quo in the ME will change.

Saudi Arabia's 'intensified' support to Syrian rebels is reportedly slowing regime advances

Offensives by the Syrian army and its allies backed by Russian air strikes are going more slowly than expected due to increased Saudi support to rebels, senior sources close to the Syrian government said, as the insurgents pressed a counter attack on Friday.

Rebels captured the village of Atshan in Hama province, the second setback for the government and its allies in that area in as many days, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and rebels said.

The nearby town of Morek fell to rebels on Thursday.

Backed by Russian air strikes, the Syrian army and allies including the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps and Lebanon's Hezbollah have launched several offensives in areas vital to President Bashar al-Assad's control of western Syria.

But analysts say the government gains have been at best modest, one saying earlier this week the only breakthrough thus far was a minimal advance south of Aleppo. U.S. officials have voiced a similar view, while rebels have said the Russian-backed attacks are failing and they expect more gains for their side.

In a frank assessment of the situation facing the government side, the two senior sources - neither of them Syrian - said the course of battle had been slowed by more military support to the rebels from Saudi Arabia, which is vying for influence with Iran across the Middle East and wants Assad gone from power.

They cited increased supplies of anti-tank TOW missiles to the rebels as a big factor.

They said the government offensives were still on track although going more slowly than envisaged. Government defensive lines, particularly in the coastal province of Latakia, had been shored up.

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The Observatory reported government forces and their allies had captured a village in Latakia province on Friday.

"The support from Saudi Arabia for the opposition did not stop but it is now intensified in an unprecedented way, and it is this that has participated in slowing the operations, delaying big achievements on the ground," said one of the sources, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The second source said: "Saudi is in a state of madness, escalating to the greatest degree." Increased supplies of U.S.-made TOW missiles to rebels was the main reason an attack in the Sahl al-Ghab region had been halted, the source said.

Both sources are familiar with political and military developments in Syria and spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not formal spokesmen for the government or its allies.

Sahl al-Ghab is a plain next to a coastal mountain range that forms the homeland of Assad's Alawite sect and shields the coast including Latakia from areas further east. Rebels advanced into the Ghab Plain earlier this year, helping to catalyze the Russian decision to intervene in support of Assad.

The sources said the battle south of Aleppo was currently the priority for the government and its allies, particularly Iran.

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Screenshot/www.youtube.comA Syrian rebel targets Assad tanks with a TOW missile.

Saudi Arabia has indicated in recent weeks that support to the Syrian opposition would intensify in the face increased Iranian and Russian backing for Assad. Its foreign minister said on Oct. 31 Riyadh was considering intensifying support to rebels by providing them with "more lethal weapons".

Vetted Syrian rebel groups fighting under the banner of the Free Syrian Army have been supplied with weapons under a program that in some cases has included military training by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.

Reuters reported on Oct. 31 from Washington that the CIA, in collaboration with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, recently broadened the number of rebel groups to which it is clandestinely delivers weapons including TOW anti-tank missiles, citing a source familiar with the support operation.

Another source said at the time a significant new shipment of TOWs had been delivered in October to what the United States believes are relatively moderate Sunni rebels in the northwest.

Some FSA groups have spoken of plentiful supplies of the U.S.-made TOW missile since Russia's intervention began on Sept. 30, though others say there has been no change in the quantity or quality of weapons supplied via Turkey. Their calls for anti-aircraft systems so far appear to have gone unanswered.

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الفرقة 1 via YoutubeAn Assad tank burning after being hit with a TOW missile.

The head of a FSA rebel group that helped capture Morek from government forces on Thursday, Fursan al-Haq, said TOW missiles had "a great role" there, in addition to unity among insurgent groups and their high morale.

Fares al-Bayoush, an officer in the Syrian army before he defected to the rebellion against Assad, told Reuters his group destroyed a tank with a TOW missile in Atshan on Thursday, although he denied there had been any increase in military support.

"The regime plan failed because of the steadfastness of the Free Syrian Army and how it moved quickly to attack within days," he said.

Ahmed al-Seoud, head of another FSA group, the 13th Division, said it had been six weeks of failure by Russia allied "with the regime and mercenaries". "The regime is losing," he told Reuters.

Rebels told Reuters last week that new tactics and better organization had helped them to survive the offensives and start to fight back.

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REUTERS/Bassam KhabiehRebel fighters take part in a military display as part of a graduation ceremony at a camp in eastern al-Ghouta, near Damascus, Syria July 12, 2015.

The first pro-Damascus source said military priority was being given to the offensive south of Aleppo.

"(The offensive) has stopped in Sahl al-Ghab, or let's say the battles are moving at the minimum level," the source said. "They are focusing now on the front towards Aleppo for more than one reason: the Iranians are giving it priority, and perhaps also because they are confident that there is no longer a danger to the coast from the Ghab Plain front."

The second source meanwhile said the rebels' use of TOW missiles had "made a difference", adding: "We have a remedy, but for military reasons we cannot talk about it."

Rami Abdulrahman, director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said: "The regime has succeeded to a certain degree in Latakia and the southern Aleppo fronts, but the success is not strategic, and it failed completely in northern Hama and Homs, particularly in northern Hama."

Saudi Arabia's 'intensified' support to Syrian rebels is reportedly slowing regime advances - Business Insider
 

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Russian airstrike have been targeting rebels. So far they only targeted children. Rebels are getting support from Saudi Arabia and elsewhere including satellite imagery, weaponry, communication, ammunition...etc. The scenario would completely shift to the favour of the rebels if anti-aircraft missiles are to be supplied. Now that I don't know when will it happen.
 

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No No if you follow the recent news, the rebels have been able to slow attacks on them. They reason is that they get heavy support from Saudi Arabia. Russia knows that and knows what we have done doing the war on Afghanistan. Syria is the most strategic country in this fight, Not Iraq or Iran. We will not allow Assad and his followers to succeed. Once we get our hand on Syria then the whole status quo in the ME will change.

I agree with statement in bold, if Arab Sunni take over Syria expect lots of changes in region. However I'm not prone to sources like Business Insider or Jewish led Western media. I know people on ground. Which of the rebels is Saudi supporting? You need to prove to me that any of them are getting support. If it's a few FSA divisions that means nothing to me as those group have no influence and Islamist rebels are responsible for all gains. If you are implying the new coalition 'Jaysh Al fath' is getting support then I still need some kind of proof. Because I don't believe Saudi Arabia will make this decision otherwise it will have legal liabilities with international community. My observation is rebels are largely independent with some support only going to specific small FSA divisions.
 
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