WDF EXCLUSIVE - PAF's latest Platform The JH-7!!!

[Muhammad Omar]

Close your eyes and imagine, green on black.

Owww so we have a color now... Now I'm more anxious

 

[AliYusuf]

(Reason why J-10 is still relevant, As We know, Thunder cannot carry PL-XX VLRAAM as well as many other Chinese goodies and the upcoming Ramjet BVR by China, So this is where J-10 is still relevant)

J-15 will be more relevant in this regard.

J-15 : Primarily for Coastal Defence and Offense, Paired with JF-17s and possibly JH-7s, EW Roles as well as Primary Air Support for PN Fleet, Buddy refueling for Thunders at Masroor.

J-15 has been designed to handle western threats i.e. being the frontline fighter aboard Chinese A/C.
I believe the new upgraded J-15B and J-15D are going to be ahead of the curve as far as shooting down all potential adversary in the subcontinent is concerned.

 

[TomCat]

J-15 will be more relevant in this regard.


J-15 has been designed to handle western threats i.e. being the frontline fighter aboard Chinese A/C.
I believe the new upgraded J-15B and J-15D are going to be ahead of the curve as far as shooting down all potential adversary in the subcontinent is concerned.

It all comes down to what squadron which bird goes to, Hence why I disclaimed “Premature conclusion” Bhaijan

 

[baqai]

Black is the new green

i just need an excuse to post this picture since i am absolutely in love

1. With the aircraft
2. The color

 

[Gripen9]

I have been giving good thought to all this development and this is where I am concluding prematurely.

J-10 : Primary Answer to Rafale

Block 3 : Another Answer to Rafale and whole of MKI/Mirage fleet.

(Reason why J-10 is still relevant, As We know, Thunder cannot carry PL-XX VLRAAM as well as many other Chinese goodies and the upcoming Ramjet BVR by China, So this is where J-10 is still relevant)

F-16 B72 and Upgrades : F-16s have been the backbone of PAF, IAF has a huge fleet of MKIs, MKI wasn’t lucky against a Block 52 armed with AIM-120C-5 on Feb 27, So, F-16 B72/V upgrades armed with Current AIM-120C and possibly D in future, Can serve as an additional fleet to the already F-16 Backbone of PAF against MKIs primarily

Thunder B2/1 : Similar role to F-16s in PAF but also more focused on Anti Ground as well as EW roles. Can be upgraded to B3 level and once again, Serve as a Primary Frontline fighter agains Combined IAF

Mirages : Current fleet and new HORUS, They will remain in the same role category and possibly given some limited BVR capabilities to atleast stay relevant for another 5 years

JH-7 : Replacing Mirages role in Northern and Southern command in limited numbers as well as possibly central command. Can be used Primarily for Anti Ground Ops, SEAD/DEAD, Anti Ship roles, Deep strike, BVR Carrier connected to AWACS/Friendly radar to get data about enemy.

J-15 : Primarily for Coastal Defence and Offense, Paired with JF-17s and possibly JH-7s, EW Roles as well as Primary Air Support for PN Fleet, Buddy refueling for Thunders at Masroor.

@Khafee @Caprxl @Gripen9 @Zeeman

On Feb 27th 2019, Blk 52s did not go against IAF. It was the MLU'd F16s that did the job.

JF17 B1/2/3/B will make the backbone of PAF ~ 400 eventually. It provides a very capable platform which we can have in numbers. It can hold its own against the likes of M2K, M21Bison, Tejas (if they are ever inducted), Mig29. With Su30MKI it has the advantage of being very small in size and able to launch its BVRs from outside SU's missile envelope. Blk3 with its AESA, PL15, and a very sophisticated Airborne Self Protection EW suite is supposed to be very good.

J-10P (with a lot of technology osmosis with J20) along with JF17b3 will counter anything IAF sends out for the next 5-7 years.

Once F16b70 arrives along with EDA F16Vs (w/ AIM120D inshallah) ~ 55+ as we are being told, Game over for Rafales. India would need another 60-80 Rafales to counter this force to even think of creating parity let alone air superiority against PAF. Do they have an additional $15-18B lying around? If they go with another platform, you would lose out on the sunk cost of building Rafale infastructure....

J-15 opens up all of India's southern half to heavy interdiction strikes. If we get ~ 45 aircraft, 15 will be Wild Weasel (growler for yor guys) versions that will do the deadly dance with S400s.

Still wrapping my head around JH7s. I see them as a compliment to J15. Both have a very long combat radius. You can have 2 x J15 armed with 8 PL15 and 2 PL10 providing top cover to 4-6x JH7 each carrying 4xRa'ad 2 or 4 YJ12 Mach 4 antiship missiles interdicting all the way down to the tip of India. Or Take off from Gwader, Fly 200km out to see and loop over Gujrat at exterme low level and hit the heart of India.

 

[loanranger]

Bhai india wale mar mara jai gai bas kardo J10 uskay opar J15 aur phir aik aur
My God. Indians will go into depression.
14th August should be the day we go public.
By the way confirmed from someone J-10 is confirm. But did not say anything of other platforms. Just take my word for it. I know he knows his stuff. I won't even tell what he does believe if you want dont if you dont.

 

[Mingle]

Black is the new green

You remember B57 livery???

 

[Gripen9]

You remember B57 livery???

I like that. But they were black as the solely operated at night. These will most probably be dark greyish due to RAM coating.

 

[AliYusuf]

It all comes down to what squadron which bird goes to, Hence why I disclaimed “Premature conclusion” Bhaijan

But we do have some basic idea of the capabilities of each of these fighters.
We can make assumptions based on that.

 

[TomCat]

But we do have some basic idea of the capabilities of each of these fighters.
We can make assumptions based on that.

JH-7, I am really confused with it. Can’t seem to figure out where this piece goes on the puzzle board

 

[AliYusuf]

JH-7, I am really confused with it. Can’t seem to figure out where this piece goes on the puzzle board

JH-7 will be the primary deep strike fighter, with self escort capability. But first few missions I suspect it would be the J-15 going into decimate the enemy air assets and their primary situational awareness infrastructure and soften them up and upset their game plan. After that it will be JH-7 doing it's mayhem. J-15 will be primarily protecting Pakistan EEZ and CPEC and help conduct disruptor forays into behind enemy lines. JH-7 will not be restricted to the south I believe ... it will prove instrumental in taking out the S-400s batteries once J-15 has done it's initial inroads into enemy territory.

 

[TomCat]

JH-7 will be the primary deep strike fighter, with self escort capability. But first few missions I suspect it would be the J-15 going into decimate the enemy air assets and their primary situational awareness infrastructure and soften them up and upset their game plan. After that it will be JH-7 will be doing it's mayhem. J-15 will be primarily protecting Pakistan EEZ and CPEC and help conduct disruptor forays into behind enemy lines. JH-7 will not be restricted to the south I believe ... it will prove instrumental in taking out the S-400s batteries once J-15 has done it's initial inroads into enemy territory.

This is exactly what i believe

 

[Mingle]

JH-7 will be the primary deep strike fighter, with self escort capability. But first few missions I suspect it would be the J-15 going into decimate the enemy air assets and their primary situational awareness infrastructure and soften them up and upset their game plan. After that it will be JH-7 doing it's mayhem. J-15 will be primarily protecting Pakistan EEZ and CPEC and help conduct disruptor forays into behind enemy lines. JH-7 will not be restricted to the south I believe ... it will prove instrumental in taking out the S-400s batteries once J-15 has done it's initial inroads into enemy territory.

Means Jh7 will do dirty work for PAF or operation clean Up

 

[Red Nucleus]

More Chinese & Pak Military involvement, this time around, I should imagine.

Chinese I can see setting up plants but Pak Mil? I assume you mean they would provide security and not actual retrieval and refining.

 

[AliYusuf]

Means Jh7 will do dirty work for PAF or operation clean Up

Yes ... will do its specialized tasks.

Chinese I can see setting up plants but Pak Mil? I assume you mean they would provide security and not actual retrieval and refining.

Yes.