Acquisition of J-15 for PAF- Air Superiority & Deep Strike Platfrom

[Tunamelt]

Hi,

That is what I noticed when he started on the forum---but then he held back---. I realized that there was more to the picture than what showed in the frame---.

Maybe I was mistaken---but then also came with the same conclusion---. Interesting---.

Sometimes its a father son team on a single account, or the son feeds of the father. @Tunamelt ??

Assalam O alikum

I am the Battle commander, @Khafee know's. When I first started on PDF it was nice but then after a while I noticed everyone was trying to prove each-other wrong.

Another thing that I noticed some people on PDF may have a Pakistani Flag or another flag but actually they are Indian's.

Some PDF members do not know how to digest the truth and/or be corrected.

Many of my posts have been deleted for no proper reason.

I noticed that some of my posts actually went Ignored or certain members just wanted to prove me wrong even though My premise were valid and I always said at the end "I am not an expert, this is what I think"

But everything else aside There are some genuine members in PDF and sometimes I can get good information. I stopped posting on PDF for a while because I was extremely busy with University stuff because of the Pandemic most of my classes were delayed and exams were to happen without any change of date----Alhamdulillah that has been done and every thing is superb.

I will try to start posting again on both forums and try to keep it simple, short and Interesting.



Hello @Mastankhan

 

[Gripen9]

Maritime strike with Harpoons is possible but I doubt this will happen as F-16s are precious (LOTR precious) and unlikely to be used for something like this that a JF-17 or Mirage can do.

You want to preserve the F-16s for the most precious task of air superiority. Training over salt water would rapidly degrade the F-16 air frame, which is an additional problem to deal with.

Edit: Additionally, fact that they are talking about EDA F-16s inability to fire the AMRAAMs available with PAF suggests that PAF has found a way around this problem (otherwise they would not have made this publicly known.

Not EDA F16. Specifically ADF F16s that we bought from Jordan. Those are block15 and do not have the same upgrades as our other MLU F16s.
Jordanian ADF F-16 have APG-66 radar and not APG68v2 radar on the MLU F-16s.

 

[TsAr]

My list of people with good insider information:
1. Airomerix
2. Ark_Angel
3. Panzerkiel
4. Bilal Khan (Quwa)
5. Par 5
6. Bilal Khan 777
7. Rashid Mahmood
8. Oscar
9. ... lot more I'll make a better list next time around

Ark-Angel has not shared anything worthwhile which was already not disclosed. He refused to believe the landing of Zulu and then after a week acknowledged it.
Panzerkiel no doubt a knowledgeable person but he has not divulged any inside information or given and breaking news.
Bilal Khan 777 knowledgeable person, has not posted for quite a while now, hope he is doing ok.
Rashid Mahmood no worthwhile info provided by him which is already not known.
Par 5 less said the better

 

[Armchair]

Not EDA F16. Specifically ADF F16s that we bought from Jordan. Those are block15 and do not have the same upgrades as our other MLU F16s.

You're right.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

At the moment we are at the same stage... you are with us[amerca] or with our enmies...

Are you a troll? Because you are trying really hard to push a narrative of a meeting that you were not a part of. So unless you sat at one of the tables I would dial it down a bit.

 

[Mingle]

Ark-Angel has not shared anything worthwhile which was already not disclosed. He refused to believe the landing of Zulu and then after a week acknowledged it.
Panzerkiel no doubt a knowledgeable person but he has not divulged any inside information or given and breaking news.
Bilal Khan 777 knowledgeable person, has not posted for quite a while now, hope he is doing ok.
Rashid Mahmood no worthwhile info provided by him which is already not known.
Par 5 less said the better

Par5 I was thinking he is 20yrs old

 

[Waiting]

Sir..

Are you a troll? Because you are trying really hard to push a narrative of a meeting that you were not a part of. So unless you sat at one of the tables I would dial it down a bit.

I liked your post.... I m really sorry sir... I thought it is defence forum, where, you are not required to be a real soldier etc.. or think tank etc... and i thought we can share something in the knowledge of someone, but now I think otherwise, I m really sorry once again if I hurt your feelings, plz carry on...

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Tsunami's don't come that often.

Indeed but when one does comes. It strikes fear in the hearts of people for decades to come

 

[TsAr]

Par5 I was thinking he is 20yrs old

its does not matter whether he is 20 or 120, humbleness is a virtue a few have. I cannot stand ignorant/arrogant people.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Sir..

I liked your post.... I m really sorry sir... I thought it is defence forum, where, you are not required to be a real soldier etc.. or think tank etc... and i thought we can share something in the knowledge of someone, but now I think otherwise, I m really sorry once again if I hurt your feelings, plz carry on...

Yes I know and dont call me sir. It's not at all what I wanted to convey in my reply. I merely wanted to say that we dont know what the outcome of that meeting was and what was discussed. So we(I say we cause your not the only one to think so) cant deduce that all is gone.

All is not gone and all will not be IA. This meeting seemed more on the issues inside Afghanistan and american withdrawal.

Also I'm not a delicate flower where my feelings would get hurt by a mere comment online. Also I sense passive aggressiveness....intresting.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

If people have lost patience nothing is stopping them to move on. No one can predict the future.

This is exactly like one of the stories where the people dont believe a certain person and then when it happens they act like they knew it was going to happen all along.

I understand that people wish the best for their country and are extremely excited at the thought of PAF changing its traditional stance. From defense to what seems to be a start offense.

With that in mind PAF even without all these new assets holds some offensive value. So its rash to put everything on the line for 1 fighter.


Remember guys khafee said that a ceremony might included ALL 3 platforms. J-15 is only 1 of those 3

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Assalam O alikum

I am the Battle commander, @Khafee know's. When I first started on PDF it was nice but then after a while I noticed everyone was trying to prove each-other wrong.

Another thing that I noticed some people on PDF may have a Pakistani Flag or another flag but actually they are Indian's.

Some PDF members do not know how to digest the truth and/or be corrected.

Many of my posts have been deleted for no proper reason.

I noticed that some of my posts actually went Ignored or certain members just wanted to prove me wrong even though My premise were valid and I always said at the end "I am not an expert, this is what I think"

But everything else aside There are some genuine members in PDF and sometimes I can get good information. I stopped posting on PDF for a while because I was extremely busy with University stuff because of the Pandemic most of my classes were delayed and exams were to happen without any change of date----Alhamdulillah that has been done and every thing is superb.

I will try to start posting again on both forums and try to keep it simple, short and Interesting.



Hello @Mastankhan

Sometimes your truth can be someone's lie and vice versa

Classic human behavior to shoot the messenger.

 

[Old boy]

Contradicting statement, First you call him truthful then you question your own claim

I talked about usa and not about mr.khafee.yes our previous affairs with usa definitely tells us that how that country gives pakistan a shut up call when ever she likes and that is a bitter truth too.

 

[Safri167]

Get a credit line from China & Procure J-10 C in much numbers in these 4,5 years.

Excellent post sir. There are no worries at all!! It's just the excitement.
My Q to u is if we will have to go for J10c route, why not move in that direction now?
Why to wait for 4, 5 years more?

 

[TsAr]

Excellent post sir. There are no worries at all!! It's just the excitement.
My Q to u is if we will have to go for J10c route, why not move in that direction now?
Why to wait for 4, 5 years more?

To ramp up numbers you need 4 to 5 years, aircrafts are not cars where hundreds come of assembly line daily