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Not only the economy needs a fix, but so does the looted wealth. Frankly speaking very dissapointed by IK. He should have brought in the big guns / PA on this long ago,

Another thing that is desperately required is the re-structuring of loans ASAP.
IK has done absolutely nothing, other than make some good speeches.
No structural changes, no hits on his anti-corruption promises, nothing.
When he leaves, things will get back to how they were before - with just a strange 5-year gap.

Talk to anyone at PSB. They had high hopes from him - seeing that he was a sportsman. There has been zero influence on sports during his tenure.
 

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IK has done absolutely nothing, other than make some good speeches.
No structural changes, no hits on his anti-corruption promises, nothing.
When he leaves, things will get back to how they were before - with just a strange 5-year gap.

Talk to anyone at PSB. They had high hopes from him - seeing that he was a sportsman. There has been zero influence on sports during his tenure.


The de-fanging, and further de-fanging of NAB is beyond me.
 

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Pls explain how does Russia fit into the J-15 scenario?
If removing folding wing, means retesting every thing and adjustment if weights etc (airframe alternation)
other easy and quick option was to use structure/airframe of j11 which is totally related russia
 

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If removing folding wing, means retesting every thing and adjustment if weights etc (airframe alternation)
other easy and quick option was to use structure/airframe of j11 which is totally related russia
Folding wings not going anywhere. That's where the fun begins!
 

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Having a base per se, is not really required when you have LEMO, and a secure logistical route. Do you understand what I am saying?

YES, i think i do understand what you are saying .. I missed it, it was in plain sight ,


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Kuchh Kehte Kehte Reh Bhi Gaye "


 

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Pls explain how does Russia fit into the J-15 scenario?
They already made statements regarding this jet. Calling it "stolen from Russia"

Also stolen money is never coming back to Pakistan and people need to move on! They need to punish the people that took it so the no one ever does it again.

When IK came to power I expected him to act like Rome and do what they did to the slaves that rebelled. But he started to play politics instead and during his playtime he lost all control. He should've struck when the iron was still hot. When the people wanted blood and the looters were shamed. Now everyone seems to have forgotten everything and IK is dead in the water.
 
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Hmmm, well 2 things, both USA & China are gonna play like Cold WAR, with Pawns, it could be Bargaining Chip as well,
2 scenarios;

1) IF USA goes for a Base 1st , China gonna reciprocate by having one in Pak land.
2) Given Chinese stakes in CPEC as South China Sea is going to be very hot in next years, China may take the 1st Step by having a base & If USA shows any sign, China may signal to even place Her Strategic Assets (read Strategic = Stealth); current & future ones; as well in Pakistan.

Foreign Policy is not something written in Black & White, there are always few tweaks being done according to the scenario at hand. So all options are on the table i think.
So Pakistan becomes the play ground? I sure hope not. No foreign base or troops should ever be allowed in Pakistan. What an insult
 

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This actually sounds more reasonable. I'm still very much against giving foreign powers a base in Pakistan.

Would be fine if PA/PAF is given a base in Xinjiang or Tibet.

Man a squadron of these beauties instead of the Jh-7 would also be a nightmare for the enemy. Personally I think its the best Sukhoi
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Hi,

Every fighter or strike aircraft's structure and power plant has its own function and utility prior to when it gets on the design board---.

Meaning this is what the power plant would do under these circumstance and this is the design on the aircraft which is targeted towards these flight parameters---like flying high---flying low---fuel tanks and weapons stations fire control radar EW package---single seat dual seat---high G load---9 g +--- lower G load---fighter interceptor---strike aircraft---multirole---etc etc etc.

Many an aircraft are multi role aircraft---but a few of them are purely for strike purposes and that is where they shine.

Any and every aircraft can fly low---but they are not very efficient when it comes to fuel consumption---they are gas guzzler---.

Now very few of them that were designed for low low flight capabilities and had power plants purposely designed for best fuel consumption at low altitude flight---.

Why do you want a low flying efficient fuel consuming strike aircraft---. Efficient fuel consumption would give a longer flight path---low flying capability would keep it out of the enemy radar.

The lower that you are capable to fly---the farther the enemy surveillance aircraft will have to come out and higher they will have to fly due to the curvature of the earth to see you coming---.

But then with modern technology---a new aircraft type was envisioned---. It happened due to the invent of BVR missiles and long range radars---Data link benefits were later utilized as well.

With the success of modern BVR missiles showing a higher kill ratio and fire & forget capabilities---another utility of a strike aircraft was envisioned---. Simply make it a BVR missile carrier whose only job would be to launch its missile on instructions thru data link from another aircraft that is targeting enemy aircraft---.

Then another capability was also envisioned---fire and forget long range air to surface or air to ship smart strike weapons which could be launched at the enemy targets from 200--300 miles away---.

What the defense strategists have to decide how when and from where to target the enemy assets and what type of resource needs to be used to deploy the weapon---.
 
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So Pakistan becomes the play ground? I sure hope not. No foreign base or troops should ever be allowed in Pakistan. What an insult

No troops on ground, @Khafee just gave a hint above, Google LEMOA

I think you need a refresher in Pakistan's Geo Politics & history ,

Pakistan is already a play ground .. . .
 

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Folding wing will have no advantage upfront for PAF/PN, only plus point it can give that thay can fly from Chinese carriers.
if required in case and those carrier on location where these aircraft can reach there can come back. (Pakistan not going to buy or lease any aircraft carrier , thats confirmed)

Secondly in case of war pakistani pilots can use chines j15 too, what ever we give name at that time, friend support or so called leased. Main thing will thay as pakistani pilots flying them so no direct china involvement , same case as many pilots are trained on j10 on shorkot base, so in case of war Pakistani pilots can fly them too at there best
 

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Not in the sense I'm speaking of.
Well, then there is no need to worry , WE are capable enough to handle security on our own, a nation who can fight n win War on Terror , can defend itself as well. Any Troops / assets sharing will purely be for Joint Training n interoperability of all the sources.
 
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