Acquisition of J-15 for PAF- Air Superiority & Deep Strike Platfrom

[HRK]

or bhai forget about india ever docking at duqm

Agreement for the Docking Indian ships is cancelled by Oman .... ???

My dear you need to understand in strategic matters it is never about "Intentions only" but it is always about "Capabilities" by securing the right to dock their Naval Ship at Duqm port India has gain a potential capability which is dangerous for our SLOC ..... It does not matter IF Oman have or do not have ill intentions about Pakistan its all about the capability which India has gain or could gain by using Omani port .....

my apologies but nothing of that make any sense as of today
we better capture lakshadweep that will be a strategic place

no need to apologize my dear no need to ..... everyone make arguments based on their knowledge and understanding which is not necessary to be based on sensible choice for example Lakshadweep islands are at just 300 Km distance from main land India and at 1,700 KM distance from Karachi and mind you 'all of this 1,700 KM distance pass through Indian Naval Zone' and I don't think I need to remind you that Lakshadweep islands are part of Indian sovereign territory .....

 

[ali razza]

Than do your part kick them to speed up their downfall i can assure u one thing maaza bht aayee gaa endian ki backside par kick laga kar u love to read ,read about Abul Hassan Isphani our first ambassador in USA his achievement lot more than our current whole FO.But what an ordinary person can do ?share with Khafee an story of Karachi memon guy who is best friend of Djibouti president.Look at the importance of Djibouti and imagine what that guy can do if properly motivated but you are already super charge so go Tiger (before u mind bhai i m talking real Tiger PTI wala tiger nahi kaha )

things are not that simple
first thing is when we speak about indiaans there r hardworking people there too who mind there own business
and then there is hindu elite like modi.
i have business relationships with indians
one specific guy.for example qazi esa he is from bombay
he is diamond merchant and a big one.
minds his own business loves pakistan
always ask me to bring shalwar kamiz from pakistan.
besides buddy we need to replace indians
we cant kick them out
it doesn’t work that way
we need to give people the product they need and better
they will forget india
its easier said then done
but yea on political level like where things matter
india is going down cos they thought there economic power will translate in political power
which actually did for some time but as they say u cant polish a turd
indians r shown the door many time in past one year
as far as i know
which in itself is huge for a country like pakistan

 

[ali razza]

Agreement for the Docking Indian ships is cancelled by Oman .... ???

My dear you need to understand in strategic matters it is never about "Intentions only" but it is always about "Capabilities" by securing the right to dock their Naval Ship at Duqm port India has gain a potential capability which is dangerous for our SLOC ..... It does not matter IF Oman have or do not have ill intentions about Pakistan its all about the capability which India has gain or could gain by using Omani port .....

no need to apologize my dear no need to ..... everyone make arguments based on their knowledge and understanding which is not necessary to be based on sensible choice for example Lakshadweep islands are at just 300 Km distance from main land India and at 1,700 KM distance from Karachi and mind you 'all of this 1,700 KM distance pass through Indian Naval Zone' and I don't think I need to remind you that Lakshadweep islands are part of Indian sovereign territory .....

cant reveal much details but that deal u referring to
was a mou
it was linked with 27 other things
give or take but at a specific time india being india played a double game
omanis were shocked by there duplicate behaviors.
a huge reproachment was done with pakistan
there top security team (highest level)
was in pakistan for 10 days many things were discussed dont u think india would have came to discussion

 

[ali razza]

Agreement for the Docking Indian ships is cancelled by Oman .... ???

My dear you need to understand in strategic matters it is never about "Intentions only" but it is always about "Capabilities" by securing the right to dock their Naval Ship at Duqm port India has gain a potential capability which is dangerous for our SLOC ..... It does not matter IF Oman have or do not have ill intentions about Pakistan its all about the capability which India has gain or could gain by using Omani port .....

no need to apologize my dear no need to ..... everyone make arguments based on their knowledge and understanding which is not necessary to be based on sensible choice for example Lakshadweep islands are at just 300 Km distance from main land India and at 1,700 KM distance from Karachi and mind you 'all of this 1,700 KM distance pass through Indian Naval Zone' and I don't think I need to remind you that Lakshadweep islands are part of Indian sovereign territory .....

nations r built on wars and plunders
i forgot the book but it was eye opener for me
if we cant risk 1700 km
imagine british empire sending 5 ships to hong kong and built an empire there.
i hope u got my point
until we grow a pair
we will always be like this confused and uselessly depressed
our obsession start and end at kashmir
while i tell u today if we get kashmir on plate from india
after 2 years we will start fighting with kashmiris too cos the promised land of milk and honey doesn’t exist in kashmir
its in arabian sea.
look at gujrat look at indian ocean
start thinking big and u might
in this regard i love UAe they puch above there weight by miles
not cos they have money but cos they have vision which we lack
we r stuck in afghanistan and kashmir

 

[space cadet]

You need a bigger platform then Wingloong to have a big enough Synthetic Aperture Radar Installed.
GlobalHawk is the best in class.

Then I feel Turkish Akinci is a good candidate but still under development.

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Chinese are developing WZ-7
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And General Atomics MQ-9B Sea Guardian (Indian Navy is purported to have been cleared to get this)

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Trump is going to loosen restrictions on drone exports very soon, so global hawk is on the table. First shipments should be by fall

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

we cant
and dont need to
there r other means to get things done
@Khafee u guys too have balochis
can pakistan arm twist UAe because of balochis?
lol

Dont need and we cant dont belong in this contex

 

[Gripen9]

Trump is going to loosen restrictions on drone exports very soon, so global hawk is on the table. First shipments should be by fall

Would love to have the big Hawk. Unfortunately current US-Pak relationship is a bit strained. I do not believe US will approve GH for Pk. They just allowed India MQ-9B sea guardian recently. Pakistan because of the past trend of being sanctioned by the US will not buy any US hardware with hard cash (which currently it has very little of). Pakistan claims around $12B in frozen CSF (coalition support funds) which is not aid but monies owed to Pakistan for providing support to US forces in AFG. It was rumored that that money will be allocated once Pak brings Taliban to the peace table. Which it did. And the truce has been holding true for the time being. Trump wants to pull out of AFG and Pak wants to have a bigger role to play in AFG post US withdrawal more likely draw down of force. I do not foresee Us removing itself 100% from AFG. If those CSF funds are released, they can be used to buy US military hardware in that case maybe we can look at US UAVs

 

[Mingle]

Trump is going to loosen restrictions on drone exports very soon, so global hawk is on the table. First shipments should be by fall

Is for Pakistan??

 

[space cadet]

Is for Pakistan??

for any allies

 

[space cadet]

Would love to have the big Hawk. Unfortunately current US-Pak relationship is a bit strained. I do not believe US will approve GH for Pk. They just allowed India MQ-9B sea guardian recently. Pakistan because of the past trend of being sanctioned by the US will not buy any US hardware with hard cash (which currently it has very little of). Pakistan claims around $12B in frozen CSF (coalition support funds) which is not aid but monies owed to Pakistan for providing support to US forces in AFG. It was rumored that that money will be allocated once Pak brings Taliban to the peace table. Which it did. And the truce has been holding true for the time being. Trump wants to pull out of AFG and Pak wants to have a bigger role to play in AFG post US withdrawal more likely draw down of force. I do not foresee Us removing itself 100% from AFG. If those CSF funds are released, they can be used to buy US military hardware in that case maybe we can look at US UAVs

in the current situation, Trump and the US will try to give hardware away, with printed money, just to keep jobs going

 

[Mingle]

in the current situation, Trump and the US will try to give hardware away, with printed money, just to keep jobs going

That's logic behind blk 70 satandard

 

[HRK]

until we grow a pair

with brain ...

bhai again see the map why Lakshadweep islands .... ???? which are small very much defendable by India .... why not somewhere else n the region read the map read the history of few agreements concluded by different countries of the region read the recent history of political changes in the region ....

we have options available to us but could we avail those options and in which manner are the important questions and related to brain ...... like there is saying in Urdu "dushman ko hatyaar se nahi hikmat se mara jata hai" [Translation Enemy is killed by Strategy not by weapons]

 

[Zulu]

@Khafee @Lieutenant I think need to move many posts in new thread here too

 

[Zulu]

@Gripen9 @mtime7 Can i tag u both in new thread US expectations ,Demands ,Guarantees from Pakistan regarding that peace agreement as both of u can give better input from US point of view and i can /will present (and hopefully many other informed Pakistani members @HRK ) other side of argument as i m firm believer making that peace agreement successful will benefits all of us i.e.AFG,USA and Pakistan

Would love to have the big Hawk. Unfortunately current US-Pak relationship is a bit strained. I do not believe US will approve GH for Pk. They just allowed India MQ-9B sea guardian recently. Pakistan because of the past trend of being sanctioned by the US will not buy any US hardware with hard cash (which currently it has very little of). Pakistan claims around $12B in frozen CSF (coalition support funds) which is not aid but monies owed to Pakistan for providing support to US forces in AFG. It was rumored that that money will be allocated once Pak brings Taliban to the peace table. Which it did. And the truce has been holding true for the time being. Trump wants to pull out of AFG and Pak wants to have a bigger role to play in AFG post US withdrawal more likely draw down of force. I do not foresee Us removing itself 100% from AFG. If those CSF funds are released, they can be used to buy US military hardware in that case maybe we can look at US UAVs

for any allies

 

[Zulu]

@Caprxl is expert in that field whats your opinion ?

Trump is going to loosen restrictions on drone exports very soon, so global hawk is on the table. First shipments should be by fall