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tbh, everyone knows how incompetent the ANA really is, and the U.S. withdrawing (whether we agree or disagree with the decision) will cause the ANA to be utterly useless, many times the ANA went in to fight and many times ended up surrendering.
In combat, the tide can turn on a dime, but "surrendering" was the least of ANA's problem.

Afghan Army Seeks Better Equipment, But Lacks Basic Skills

A NATO study that was leaked at the beginning of the year stated that some in the ANSF were selling weapons and equipment to the Taliban, and U.S. officials have long expressed concerns that providing technology such as night vision goggles to the Afghan forces, could ultimately end up equipping Taliban.


Nothing has changed since the above was published.
 

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tbh, everyone knows how incompetent the ANA really is, and the U.S. withdrawing (whether we agree or disagree with the decision) will cause the ANA to be utterly useless, many times the ANA went in to fight and many times ended up surrendering.

not only will this be a headache for Afghanistan, but will also be a headache for it's neighbors especially Pakistan..

I understand Afghanistan-Pakistan don't always have the friendliest of ties, but I believe this is a time to set aside differences for the time being and work collaboratively, for example sending in SSG commandos to fight against the Taliban, conducting occasional airstrikes and let the SSG, SSN and various other Pakistani SOFs train the ANA Commandos more efficiently
you can train the ANA, arm the ANA and so much more, but it doesn't mean they will be capable brother.

there is various reasons the ANA and ANP are incapable of handling issues, they have ethnic issues (most Pashtuns are not supportive of the ANA at all) corruption runs rampant from the typical private all the way up to high ranking officers, lack of training, and understanding how to use their new gear coming in from the U.S. (most of which is "garbage" the U.S. is leaving there anyways).

Afghanistan operated a decent fleet of Mi-24s and Mi-8s (we usually paid for via India, and bought some off former Warsaw pact nations too)

now with the fact they are operating MD-530s, S-70s (advanced compared to what they're used to) it's causing a major logistical issue for them, and on top of that the only real "fighter jet" we gave them was some Sierra Nevada A-29 COIN aircraft and that's it.

on top of this, the Afghan Military was known for a while, to sell off personal combat gear such as Helmets, uniforms and even their own rifles and occasionally Humvees and the Toyota pickups they had to their enemies.


I do agree with the withdrawal of U.S. forces for a certain extent, we did what we did, made some horrible mistakes, but we also achieved some "brownie points" while being there too. but at the same time I'm against because it'll be a vital mistake, properly due to the idea the ANA could all eventually collapse one day, and the issue spreads into let's say Pakistan, Tajikistan (in fact they lost a border checkpoint near Tajikistan).

Taliban Capture Afghanistan’s Main Tajikistan Border Crossing – The Defense Post

the U.S. was interested in one thing, one thing only, a freaking oil pipeline coming from Turkmenistan going through Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, 'TAPI" is what its called. tell you what, there has been concerns in the U.S. for a couple years now that when the U.S. withdraws it's actual military forces, various private military contractors will be used to protect the TAPI pipeline, and still use Afghanistan as a profit zone, for the most part people have been against this but it's still the idea it may happen
Rejecting Erik Prince’s Plan to Privatize the War in Afghanistan (americanbar.org)
 

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US to keep about 650 troops in Afghanistan after withdrawal (militarytimes.com)
Roughly 650 U.S. troops are expected to remain in Afghanistan to provide security for diplomats after the main American military force completes its withdrawal, which is set to be largely done in the next two weeks, U.S. officials told The Associated Press on Thursday.


In addition, several hundred additional American forces will remain at the Kabul airport, potentially until September, to assist Turkish troops providing security, as a temporary move until a more formal Turkey-led security operation is in place, the officials said. Overall, officials said the U.S. expects to have American and coalition military command, its leadership and most troops out by July Fourth, or shortly after that, meeting an aspirational deadline that commanders developed months ago.

The officials were not authorized to discuss details of the withdrawal and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.

The departure of the bulk of the more than 4,000 troops that have been in the country in recent months is unfolding well before President Joe Biden’s Sept. 11 deadline for withdrawal. And it comes amid accelerating Taliban battlefield gains, fueling fears that the Afghan government and its military could collapse in a matter of months.


Officials have repeatedly stressed that security at the Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul is a critical requirement to keeping any U.S. diplomatic staff in Afghanistan. Still, the decision to keep additional troops there for several more months makes it more complicated for the Biden administration to declare a true end to America’s longest war until later this fall. And it keeps the embattled country near the forefront of U.S. national security challenges, even as the White House tries to put the 20-year-old war behind it and focus more on threats from China and Russia.

On Friday, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah, chair of the High Council for National Reconciliation, are meeting with Biden at the White House. The two Afghan leaders also are to meet at the Pentagon with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and possibly other administration officials, the Pentagon announced.

Getting most troops out by early July had been in doubt because of complications including an outbreak of COVID-19 at the U.S. Embassy and the push to get Afghan interpreters and others who helped the U.S. out of the country. Officials said U.S. commanders and NATO allies in Afghanistan have been able to overcome logistical hurdles that might have prolonged the withdrawal process. But they also warned that plans in place for the final stages of the U.S. military withdrawal could change if airport security agreements fall through or there are other major, unforeseen developments.


As recently as last week, there was discussion of possibly extending the U.S. troop presence at Bagram Airfield, north of Kabul, but officials said the U.S. presence at the base is expected to end in the next several days.

The roughly 650 U.S. troops that are planned to be a more permanent force presence in Afghanistan will provide security for the U.S. Embassy and some ongoing support at the airport. Officials said the U.S. has agreed to leave a C-RAM — or Counter-Rocket, Artillery, Mortar system — at the airport, as well as troops to operate it, as part of an agreement with Turkey. The U.S. also plans to leave aircrew for helicopter support at the airport.

According to the officials, Turkey has largely agreed to provide security at the airport as long as it receives support from American forces. U.S. and Turkish military officials are meeting in Ankara this week to finalize arrangements.

On Wednesday, Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said there is not yet a written agreement with Turks on airport security. He said he did not want to speak about specifics before there is a final agreement, but added, “I feel very comfortable that security at the Kabul airport will be maintained and the Turks will be a part of that.”

The U.S. troop departure, which began with Biden’s announcement in April that he was ending U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan, is ramping up just as the administration moves ahead with plans to evacuate tens of thousands of interpreters and others who worked with American forces during the war and now fear for their safety.

A senior administration official said Thursday that planning has accelerated in recent days to relocate the Afghans and their families to other countries or U.S. territories while their visa applications are processed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss unannounced plans. The administration intends to carry out the evacuation later this summer, likely in August, according to a second official familiar with the deliberations but not authorized to discuss them publicly.


The Pentagon has said the military is prepared to assist the State Department as needed but indicated that charter flights might be adequate to move the Afghan visa applicants, thus not necessarily requiring a military airlift.

Officials said that NATO allies, such as Germany, are also very close to being completely out of the country.

Senior Pentagon leaders, including Austin, have been cautious in recent weeks when asked about the troop withdrawal, and they have declined to provide any public details on when the last troops would leave, citing security concerns.
 

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tbh, everyone knows how incompetent the ANA really is, and the U.S. withdrawing (whether we agree or disagree with the decision) will cause the ANA to be utterly useless, many times the ANA went in to fight and many times ended up surrendering.

not only will this be a headache for Afghanistan, but will also be a headache for it's neighbors especially Pakistan..

I understand Afghanistan-Pakistan don't always have the friendliest of ties, but I believe this is a time to set aside differences for the time being and work collaboratively, for example sending in SSG commandos to fight against the Taliban, conducting occasional airstrikes and let the SSG, SSN and various other Pakistani SOFs train the ANA Commandos more efficiently
Help the farsibans that played a hand in killing 70k Pakistani in cold blood, from school children to saints? Are you deliberately being naive or are you just ignorant?

Help ANA and NA only if they surrender all rights and lands to Pakistan. Plain and simple, either they take the deal and merge with the Republic of Pakistan or they perish.

You are not a Pakistani, you do not live with us, eat with us or work with us, so I recommend that you keep your ignorant western perspective to yourself and next time respect the 70k martyred Pakistanis. Training the NA will be spitting on all the Graves and families including mine that have suffered at the cost of this imported war.

I among million other Pakistani Pakhtoons lay claim to the lands of Kabul. This is only going to get worse for these namak mordars. They sowed in the wrong field and will yield not just a destroyed crop but also an infectious one.
 

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Pakistan's ruling party playing the game of Abdulla Abdulla in Afghanistan, who is essentially a RAW's puppy.
 

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What is the deal with Afghanistan and the new armed "shia" forces supported by Iran trying to gain some foot on the ground amid US withdrawal? Another Iraq in the making all I see. What is the reaction of Pakistan if the situation turns onto shia vs Taliban? Does that pose a threat to Pakistan at all?
 

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What is the deal with Afghanistan and the new armed "shia" forces supported by Iran trying to gain some foot on the ground amid US withdrawal? Another Iraq in the making all I see. What is the reaction of Pakistan if the situation turns onto shia vs Taliban? Does that pose a threat to Pakistan at all?
~ 8-12 % of Pakistan's population is shia. We have seen in the recent past that Iran has been able to actively recruit from that population for the zenabiyoun brigades and send as cannon fodder to fight in Syria protecting the Assad regime. Similarly there is a substantial Hazara shia population in Afghanistan that have been targeted by Taliban (pre 9/11) and in Pakistan in the recent past that makes them ideal for recruitment by IRGC. Taliban have been in contact with Iran; Most probably to come of with agreements to avoid direct confrontation with Iran. We may see Herat province be under de facto Irani (shia) control. But I don't see Iran to be able to effectively control Afghanistan like they did in Iraq.
 

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What is the deal with Afghanistan and the new armed "shia" forces supported by Iran trying to gain some foot on the ground amid US withdrawal? Another Iraq in the making all I see. What is the reaction of Pakistan if the situation turns onto shia vs Taliban? Does that pose a threat to Pakistan at all?
Imo there is no such thing, the local hazars just claimed to be supported by Iran.
 

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~ 8-12 % of Pakistan's population is shia. We have seen in the recent past that Iran has been able to actively recruit from that population for the zenabiyoun brigades and send as cannon fodder to fight in Syria protecting the Assad regime. Similarly there is a substantial Hazara shia population in Afghanistan that have been targeted by Taliban (pre 9/11) and in Pakistan in the recent past that makes them ideal for recruitment by IRGC. Taliban have been in contact with Iran; Most probably to come of with agreements to avoid direct confrontation with Iran. We may see Herat province be under de facto Irani (shia) control. But I don't see Iran to be able to effectively control Afghanistan like they did in Iraq.
It needs to be plain and simple for the 12%. Pakistan first!

This needs to be said on all platforms, from mosques to radios and TV. If you are worried about Iran than simple gtfo of Pakistan. You are no longer a Pakistani. If you are worried about the Arabs or turks than samething applies.

"Pakistan first and last"
 
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What is the deal with Afghanistan and the new armed "shia" forces supported by Iran trying to gain some foot on the ground amid US withdrawal? Another Iraq in the making all I see. What is the reaction of Pakistan if the situation turns onto shia vs Taliban? Does that pose a threat to Pakistan at all?
Mulla clergy will continue to do their evil part in Islamic world, irrespective if there are more or less ''shia''. as in case of French connection with MBH of Egypt and now modern day 'Taliban' in Afghanistan.

Mulla role in Afghanistan goes back to dividing Mujahidin on racial and political lines, but with eventual Taliban advances, they assumed the role of supporting Northern Alliance militarily, founding a long civil war, ensuring no chance for re-conciliation, among the waring factions.

In post Taliban Afghanistan, we have seen Iran's role magnifying to max, with an old partner India, they founded a new Afghanistan. Obvious out comes are new 'Taliban' new Afghan demography and the new war in Afghanistan.

I would always consider these ground realities, while observing and assessing geo politics of Afghanistan. Where it's difficult to say with certainty, what is indigenous, what's foreign motivated and yes, there's another important party Al-Jazeera /Qatar.
In presence of said foreign forces, only thing Pakistan can do is to safeguard it self, which starts with fencing the border, wherein ruling party and present day military leadership seems least interested, but on the other hand Pakistani leadership seems very keen and motivated to broker a deal among new 'Taliban' and US, oblivious to the fact that US is leaving, proving that the so called deal hoopla was a mere farce, wherein Pakistan leadership acted as tool of foreign states. This kind of hint, where Pakistan is heading in coming days.

Direction of ''Taliban'' thrust so far has been occupying strategic border areas with Pakistan, starting with Wakhan corridor, if this didn't raise any bells for Pakistan security agencies, than this laid-back approach should quite rightly raise bells for the keen observers of Pakistan.

Pakistan quite evidently, has merely been reduced to a country, which is primarily serving as a tool to supplement in-famous cold start of Ajit Devil.
 
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~ 8-12 % of Pakistan's population is shia. We have seen in the recent past that Iran has been able to actively recruit from that population for the zenabiyoun brigades and send as cannon fodder to fight in Syria protecting the Assad regime. Similarly there is a substantial Hazara shia population in Afghanistan that have been targeted by Taliban (pre 9/11) and in Pakistan in the recent past that makes them ideal for recruitment by IRGC. Taliban have been in contact with Iran; Most probably to come of with agreements to avoid direct confrontation with Iran. We may see Herat province be under de facto Irani (shia) control. But I don't see Iran to be able to effectively control Afghanistan like they did in Iraq.
If these 12% shia can install immigration process of their own choice at Taftan, and smuggle Pakistan's missile and nuclear program to Iran, North Korea, than Pakistan ka Allah Hafiz.
BTW, non shia in stone age areas including regions of Pakistan, are not necessarily practicing Islam, so this divide of shia sunni in those regions is merely a brain washing of jahil hordes, rather than having any academic /intellectual grounds.
 
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Mulla clergy will continue to do their evil part in Islamic world, irrespective if there are more or less ''shia''. as in case of French connection with MBH of Egypt and now modern day 'Taliban' in Afghanistan.

Mulla role in Afghanistan goes back to dividing Mujahidin on racial and political lines, but with eventual Taliban advances, they assumed the role of supporting Northern Alliance militarily, founding a long civil war, ensuring no chance for re-conciliation, among the waring factions.

In post Taliban Afghanistan, we have seen Iran's role magnifying to max, with an old partner India, they founded a new Afghanistan. Obvious out comes are new 'Taliban' new Afghan demography and the new war in Afghanistan.

I would always consider these ground realities, while observing and assessing geo politics of Afghanistan. Where it's difficult to say with certainty, what is indigenous, what's foreign motivated and yes, there's another important party Al-Jazeera /Qatar.
In presence of said foreign forces, only thing Pakistan can do is to safeguard it self, which starts with fencing the border, wherein ruling party and present day military leadership seems least interested, but on the other hand Pakistani leadership seems very keen and motivated to broker a deal among new 'Taliban' and US, oblivious to the fact that US is leaving, proving that the so called deal hoopla was a mere farce, wherein Pakistan leadership acted as tool of foreign states. This kind of hint, where Pakistan is heading in coming days.

Direction of ''Taliban'' thrust so far has been occupying strategic border areas with Pakistan, starting with Wakhan corridor, if this didn't raise any bells for Pakistan security agencies, than this laid-back approach should quite rightly raise bells for the keen observers of Pakistan.

Pakistan quite evidently, has merely been reduced to a country, which is primarily serving as a tool to supplement in-famous cold start of Ajit Devil.
Bring mosques under a new federal body termed "ministry of Islamic affairs (MIA)" daily preaching in mosques must be created by this ministry and it has to pertain to regional issues around that mosque.

The clerics must have a bachelor's in science and a masters in a new master program created for Islam. They must be hired for a mosque through a program.

Only than will you see Islam turn back to its golden age, just like before.
 
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