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Well, Trump has done it yet again. He said the Senator McCain was not a war hero because he got captured and was a POW. McCain was shot down while on a bombing mission over Vietnam and spent 6 years as a POW. Trump has refused to correct his statement, and has in fact exacerbated it. Trump was able to avoid service during the Vietnam conflict due to dubious health deferments. He came from a wealthy family, a situation that seemed to result in many health deferments at that time.

I have to admit that I am a Democrat, and I love to see such dishonor brought to the GOP. I have to feel for all those Republicans who are not pure evil, and am embarrassed to see how many people continue to actually support his bid for president.

I have a lot of respect for McCain (not as much as I had before he sold out during his presidential run), and I have absolutely no reservations about his status as a war hero.

Whatever views I have on McCain, it is wrong to diminish anyone's service. In my eyes anyone serving is a hero. Furthermore, whatever views I have on Trump, this is an area where he should apologize to all POWs (and families). A few years ago, one of my relations came home to lay in rest on American soil after being a POW. Is he telling me that my relation is not a War Hero?

If Trump wanted to address his issues with McCain, he could have chosen numerous other areas. It is not patriotic to demeanor any veteran or those currently serving. If Trump had been in the military, probably not sunk to this level of insult. There is a code of honor. He broke it. Better to admit this error, there is no justified reason to belittle anyone's service.
 

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Trump isn't concerned about 'the struggle McCain went through'; I know Trump knows McCain is honorable and/or highly-worthy of honor, but he's "calling a spade 'a spade.'" Good soldier, McCain was; but not a hero. At least, not in the sense that we non-military types understand the word.

In other words, who did McCain 'valiantly rescue with a feat of derring-do'?

McCain--whatever good military-actions he may have been in the midst of--was caught. That (and his survival through six years of imprisonment) are the extent (to non-military) of McCain's 'war heroism.' I was hit by a car---bruised my brain-stem, with doctors telling me I'd be bed-ridden and dependent on life-support for as long as someone could pay-for; but I decided to get better, and am a walking, talking miracle. Does that make me a war-hero?

Don't think so!
 

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Whatever views I have on McCain, it is wrong to diminish anyone's service. In my eyes anyone serving is a hero. Furthermore, whatever views I have on Trump, this is an area where he should apologize to all POWs (and families). A few years ago, one of my relations came home to lay in rest on American soil after being a POW. Is he telling me that my relation is not a War Hero?

If Trump wanted to address his issues with McCain, he could have chosen numerous other areas. It is not patriotic to demeanor any veteran or those currently serving. If Trump had been in the military, probably not sunk to this level of insult. There is a code of honor. He broke it. Better to admit this error, there is no justified reason to belittle anyone's service.
In my opinion he did it publicly, like he did, because he wants to make sure people believe he's telling it how it is. "Oh wow! Trump is speaking the truth".

He's taking it overboard because it doesn't matter what effed up shit he says, all anyone is going to get from it is that he's not 'politically correct'.

Mexicans that hate Mexico, and females that hate women, and welfare recipients who hate poor people, and the list goes on and on. He appeals to HATE. And hateful people are being taken in by it.
 

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Trump will have to work pretty hard to make a bigger fool out of himself than he already has. I'm a consistent, loyal Republican, but if Trump happened to stumble into the nomination there's no way I could bring myself to vote for him. I'd be forced to vote for the third party candidate. I don't see myself having to do that, but the longer Trump is the focus on the GOP nominating process the worse it is for the party.
 

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Trump isn't concerned about 'the struggle McCain went through'; I know Trump knows McCain is honorable and/or highly-worthy of honor, but he's "calling a spade 'a spade.'" Good soldier, McCain was; but not a hero. At least, not in the sense that we non-military types understand the word.

In other words, who did McCain 'valiantly rescue with a feat of derring-do'?

McCain--whatever good military-actions he may have been in the midst of--was caught. That (and his survival through six years of imprisonment) are the extent (to non-military) of McCain's 'war heroism.' I was hit by a car---bruised my brain-stem, with doctors telling me I'd be bed-ridden and dependent on life-support for as long as someone could pay-for; but I decided to get better, and am a walking, talking miracle. Does that make me a war-hero?

Don't think so!
Nope not a war hero, but WOW! That's pretty impressive any way you look at it! Congrats to you! I hope you go on fighting! And thanks for your explanation about Trump's statement. It was well enunciated, and on target. I agree about McCain. I can't stand his brand of politics, but I appreciate his service in the military. He was indeed a "good soldier."
 

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Pardon me for intruding in this thread again. It seems to me that Donald Trump is creating an imprint of his own and probably has a good chance of landing the Republican nomination. As per the news here, the recent Republican debate had given Trump another good media release with his bold pronouncements. And in this thread there seems to be a lively discussion of Trump's statements on the issue of illegal migrants.
 

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Trump isn't concerned about 'the struggle McCain went through'; I know Trump knows McCain is honorable and/or highly-worthy of honor, but he's "calling a spade 'a spade.'" Good soldier, McCain was; but not a hero. At least, not in the sense that we non-military types understand the word.

In other words, who did McCain 'valiantly rescue with a feat of derring-do'?

McCain--whatever good military-actions he may have been in the midst of--was caught. That (and his survival through six years of imprisonment) are the extent (to non-military) of McCain's 'war heroism.' I was hit by a car---bruised my brain-stem, with doctors telling me I'd be bed-ridden and dependent on life-support for as long as someone could pay-for; but I decided to get better, and am a walking, talking miracle. Does that make me a war-hero?

Don't think so!

Thanks for sharing your inspiring story and recovery. Perhaps, you are not a war hero, but surely a hero and champion to those that find themselves in similar situations. Although, I do think POW's are war hero's, I think you are right about calling a spade a spade.

McCain appears to not be a champion to other families who lost a member of their family in POW camps or MIA Does not sit well with me that he did not support the “the Truth Bill” and what is up with “the McCain Bill”.

In my opinion he did it publicly, like he did, because he wants to make sure people believe he's telling it how it is. "Oh wow! Trump is speaking the truth".

He's taking it overboard because it doesn't matter what effed up shit he says, all anyone is going to get from it is that he's not 'politically correct'.

Mexicans that hate Mexico, and females that hate women, and welfare recipients who hate poor people, and the list goes on and on. He appeals to HATE. And hateful people are being taken in by it.

Would have better, if we had heard why Trump felt this way. Guess headlines looked better to repeat his sentiments on McCain's actions or inaction in regards to POW's and MIA's with his belief that McCain was not a war hero. Not sure, if this is Trumps fault or the medias?

Pardon me for intruding in this thread again. It seems to me that Donald Trump is creating an imprint of his own and probably has a good chance of landing the Republican nomination. As per the news here, the recent Republican debate had given Trump another good media release with his bold pronouncements. And in this thread there seems to be a lively discussion of Trump's statements on the issue of illegal migrants.

Appears the other candidate are working hard to get get Trump off the ticket for a Republican nomination. Not sure how this is going to play out.
 

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Would have better, if we had heard why Trump felt this way. Guess headlines looked better to repeat his sentiments on McCain's actions or inaction in regards to POW's and MIA's with his belief that McCain was not a war hero. Not sure, if this is Trumps fault or the medias?

How does the saying go>>> no press is bad press? If that isn't how it goes, it should :p

Trump and the press are in it together, I think. I have heard praise for Trump because he "tells it like it is" or "he's not a professional politician". But not once have I heard anyone talk about His great ideas for anything. Unrealistic promises that are only brought up to support his bigotry don't count, either. So why is NO ONE talking about all the positive ideas he has? He uses the media to get face time, and the media uses him to sell more papers, quoting the crazy thing he said this time.
 

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Donald Trump is a bit of a business minded man. I am not certain this country can stand another poor decision when it comes to electing the next president. But, let me tell you all these career politicians who have been elected in recent years, not just President Obama, but George W. Bush was not such a grand president either. I think that Bill Clinton might have made a mistake or two while in office, other than his personal mistakes.
I am leaning toward the business man this time just to see if it might help. What do we really have to lose. It is sad that he can make such a fool of himself. But, lets face it a lot of these politicians and more so the presidential candidates of today and yesterday all make and have made a bit of fools of themselves.
 

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Donald Trump is a bit of a business minded man. I am not certain this country can stand another poor decision when it comes to electing the next president. But, let me tell you all these career politicians who have been elected in recent years, not just President Obama, but George W. Bush was not such a grand president either. I think that Bill Clinton might have made a mistake or two while in office, other than his personal mistakes.
I am leaning toward the business man this time just to see if it might help. What do we really have to lose. It is sad that he can make such a fool of himself. But, lets face it a lot of these politicians and more so the presidential candidates of today and yesterday all make and have made a bit of fools of themselves.
Great points here! I think if we just stopped worrying about all the stupid social issues, and realized that a lot of stuff is happening, while we are being distracted by irrelevant crap, we might see our economy in a true light. This country needs a man who knows how an economy really works. We don't need anymore BS about how one man WISHES it worked! I don't give a rat's butt about Trump's toupee, or whether or not he likes Rosie O'Donnell (who the hell does?)! The man knows money! He also knows that Washington had better start protecting our country!
 

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Unfortunately, the president is not just a businessman. He's also a military leader, a diplomat, and a legislator. Trump is none of those things. He simply doesn't have the experience. Gripe about "establishment" candidates all you want; I want someone who knows how the law works while still being a conservative. There are excellently strong conservative candidates with such a resume this time. This isn't 2008 or 2012.
 

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Trump will do everything is his hands to diminish his opponents, and for him, it doesn't matter whether it's the truth or not. He bases himself at the principle that any propaganda is good propaganda, and as you can see, it does get results, chances are he will be the GOP nominee. Some people like him exactly because he is not well-behaved, he can 'shake' the system, but in the end I believe he will do more bad than good for America.
 

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All the crazy things that Trump says can no longer be kept track of. I think that we are not necessarily headed for a better America, but maybe he will make America great again. Some of the comments he has made about people have been very rude and often not true, but I think that we cannot yet make a judgement call on how he would be as president.
 
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