Egyptian Mirage V Horus released after stiff opposition from India.

[Zeeman]

Mastan Khan is right.... just look at what Egypt is getting for siding with Saudi coalition.....
Rafael, Mig 29, Su, you name it they are getting it ....

heck they are even building a new capital thanks to Saudi Riyals ...... and here we are kissing Iranian butt while all Balochistan rebels live , train and attack from Iran.
simply pathetic decision we made ...

 

[Mastankhan]

This is what is scarring the anti-Pakistani elements.

Hi,

And that might allow more time for the JF17 aircraft to mature a little more---.

The mirages will fulfill the role of short to medium range naval strike anti ship missions---but the role of a hvwy strike platform would still be left open---.

That cannot be filled without a twin engine aircraft---.

 

[Usama]

Hi,

Feb 27th was a nail in our coffin---.

Pakistan is going to pay a very heavy price for not joining GCC in Yemen---. It would be a miracle that Pakistan comes out unscathed---.

That offer was something that happens once in centuries---.

Why do you say that yemen's head carried such a hefty price?
Offer of the century for us wouldnt be CPEC?

 

[Mastankhan]

Why do you say that yemen's head carried such a hefty price?
Offer of the century for us wouldnt be CPEC?

Hi,

CPEC is nothing as compared to yemen.

Yemen would have established pak as a military power---. The most important aspect was that it came with the blessing of US and UK---and that was priceless---.

Pakistan's military's failure to take charge showed how infantile thinking pak generals had---. It also showed how vision less they were and same thing with the politicians---.

It was a guaranteed step up mobility for pakistan's economic morasse---. The GCC wanted the commodity that we had in abundance and we would have fulfilled the need---.

With guaranteed jobs---it would have brought in upwards of 5 billion dollars a year of foreign exchange---plus production of military hardware---textile and other paraphernalia---.

The most important factor would have been that it would have given us an extra 100---150 K troops---fully equipped infantry armor air force navy cargo planes etc etc etc and gratefulness of the arabs and their families---.

No---this all is nothing---. What we would have gained was the blessing and grace of the GCC families---mothers grand mothers grand fathers daughters children boys girls looking at pakistan in a totally different manner---making a life changing experience---viewing pakistanis with a different set of eyes---.

That is what was PRICELESS---. No amount of money would have bought that feeling for us---from nowhere---@Khafee---.

 

[ali razza]

Hi,

CPEC is nothing as compared to yemen.

Yemen would have established pak as a military power---. The most important aspect was that it came with the blessing of US and UK---and that was priceless---.

Pakistan's military's failure to take charge showed how infantile thinking pak generals had---. It also showed how vision less they were and same thing with the politicians---.

It was a guaranteed step up mobility for pakistan's economic morasse---. The GCC wanted the commodity that we had in abundance and we would have fulfilled the need---.

With guaranteed jobs---it would have brought in upwards of 5 billion dollars a year of foreign exchange---plus production of military hardware---textile and other paraphernalia---.

The most important factor would have been that it would have given us an extra 100---150 K troops---fully equipped infantry armor air force navy cargo planes etc etc etc and gratefulness of the arabs and their families---.

No---this all is nothing---. What we would have gained was the blessing and grace of the GCC families---mothers grand mothers grand fathers daughters children boys girls looking at pakistan in a totally different manner---making a life changing experience---viewing pakistanis with a different set of eyes---.

That is what was PRICELESS---. No amount of money would have bought that feeling for us---from nowhere---@Khafee---.

nepolean said, i dont fear an army of lions, whos leader is a sheep
but an army of sheep, whos leader is a lion
our paper tiger got so scared of iran, that he threw us under the bus
and humiliated gcc in parliament, by pro ithna shia sell outs
it was a grave mistake

 

[Khafee]

Hi,

CPEC is nothing as compared to yemen.

Yemen would have established pak as a military power---. The most important aspect was that it came with the blessing of US and UK---and that was priceless---.

Pakistan's military's failure to take charge showed how infantile thinking pak generals had---. It also showed how vision less they were and same thing with the politicians---.

It was a guaranteed step up mobility for pakistan's economic morasse---. The GCC wanted the commodity that we had in abundance and we would have fulfilled the need---.

With guaranteed jobs---it would have brought in upwards of 5 billion dollars a year of foreign exchange---plus production of military hardware---textile and other paraphernalia---.

The most important factor would have been that it would have given us an extra 100---150 K troops---fully equipped infantry armor air force navy cargo planes etc etc etc and gratefulness of the arabs and their families---.

No---this all is nothing---. What we would have gained was the blessing and grace of the GCC families---mothers grand mothers grand fathers daughters children boys girls looking at pakistan in a totally different manner---making a life changing experience---viewing pakistanis with a different set of eyes---.

That is what was PRICELESS---. No amount of money would have bought that feeling for us---from nowhere---@Khafee---.

That opportunity, was purposefully sabotaged by the pro-iran lobby.
Reminds one of the urdu saying "Hum to doobay hain sanam, tumhay bhi lay doobangay".

 

[Khafee]

nepolean said, i dont fear an army of lions, whos leader is a sheep
but an army of sheep, whos leader is a lion
our paper tiger got so scared of iran, that he threw us under the bus
and humiliated gcc in parliament, by pro ithna shia sell outs
it was a grave mistake

Shaer aya! Shaer aya!

You dont like noora khassi Shaer?

 

[Mingle]

Shaer aya! Shaer aya!

You dont like noora khassi Shaer?

Taking yemen matter into parliament was a grieve mistake.

 

[Scorpio]

Hi,

CPEC is nothing as compared to yemen.

Yemen would have established pak as a military power---. The most important aspect was that it came with the blessing of US and UK---and that was priceless---.

Pakistan's military's failure to take charge showed how infantile thinking pak generals had---. It also showed how vision less they were and same thing with the politicians---.

It was a guaranteed step up mobility for pakistan's economic morasse---. The GCC wanted the commodity that we had in abundance and we would have fulfilled the need---.

With guaranteed jobs---it would have brought in upwards of 5 billion dollars a year of foreign exchange---plus production of military hardware---textile and other paraphernalia---.

The most important factor would have been that it would have given us an extra 100---150 K troops---fully equipped infantry armor air force navy cargo planes etc etc etc and gratefulness of the arabs and their families---.

No---this all is nothing---. What we would have gained was the blessing and grace of the GCC families---mothers grand mothers grand fathers daughters children boys girls looking at pakistan in a totally different manner---making a life changing experience---viewing pakistanis with a different set of eyes---.

That is what was PRICELESS---. No amount of money would have bought that feeling for us---from nowhere---@Khafee---.

Really? It in actual include all these stuff, what we have to deliver in reverse to all this sir?

 

[Mingle]

It was wise for Pakistan not to go to war in Yemen.but it was unwise to bring the debate into the parliament.In exchange for all the cash and shiny toys, what was for Pakistan to give ? Was it really worthy for the price? That’s a big question ! Maybe they would’ve attacked Qatar had Pak was in the mix , the way Egypt did cut the ties with Hamas. And during all these turmoil if Pakland got hit by someone else , who would’ve come to the rescue? I don’t see people who turn a blind eyes on Indian Muslim or Arakan Muslim (forget palestine ) come running to help ! After all these aid and money Egypt is still struggling and it will. And talk about their toys, they are good for nothing. World knows how capable Egyptian military is. I’m not here to spread hate, they are ground realities at the moment. It is not just plain give and take example.

NS was not a farsighted person simple thing when King of Saudia Greet You at Airport what it means?????????
Pak narrative is shaped up that way even ppl don't care about theior benefits as nation like relations with Israel.

 

[Mastankhan]

It was wise for Pakistan not to go to war in Yemen.but it was unwise to bring the debate into the parliament.In exchange for all the cash and shiny toys, what was for Pakistan to give ? Was it really worthy for the price? That’s a big question ! Maybe they would’ve attacked Qatar had Pak was in the mix , the way Egypt did cut the ties with Hamas. And during all these turmoil if Pakland got hit by someone else , who would’ve come to the rescue? I don’t see people who turn a blind eyes on Indian Muslim or Arakan Muslim (forget palestine ) come running to help ! After all these aid and money Egypt is still struggling and it will. And talk about their toys, they are good for nothing. World knows how capable Egyptian military is. I’m not here to spread hate, they are ground realities at the moment. It is not just plain give and take example.

Hi,

" Till yesterday---before Yemen crisis---all the pakistanis were claiming pakistan to be the Fort of Islam---"

Does any one deny that claim---? Then the Yemen crisis came and we realized how strong the Shia lobby had grown in pakistan---media houses---politicians---intellectuals coming on the TV and not a single person standing in with the GCC---.

To the pakistanis claiming to be the Fort of Islam---here is a saying---.

" Every empire has a beginning forged of Blood---Steel---Fortune & Conquest "---.

When the moment of truth came---Pakistan just fizzled out.

In the end it just proved that Pakistan can only confront India and that is all---. It lacks tactics strategy and game plan to be a regional power---.

 

[ali razza]

Hi,

" Till yesterday---before Yemen crisis---all the pakistanis were claiming pakistan to be the Fort of Islam---"

Does any one deny that claim---? Then the Yemen crisis came and we realized how strong the Shia lobby had grown in pakistan---media houses---politicians---intellectuals coming on the TV and not a single person standing in with the GCC---.

To the pakistanis claiming to be the Fort of Islam---here is a saying---.

" Every empire has a beginning forged of Blood---Steel---Fortune & Conquest "---.

When the moment of truth came---Pakistan just fizzled out.

In the end it just proved that Pakistan can only confront India and that is all---. It lacks tactics strategy and game plan to be a regional power---.

pakistanis usually chicken out it’s normal
after the korean war i think it was henry kasinger who said.
these A-holes never gave a single man to our cause and demand the maximum aid.
then we cry about americans not coming to our rescue in 71.
had we took part in korean war america would have turned the world upside down.
but here people only see one side of story
later when 9/11 happened mushi was jumping up and down with americans promising blood and flesh.
once iraq war came they chickened out again.
so wht happened americans took revenge by giving afghanistan to india
u can chek timelines there was no terrorizm in pakistan before that.
and i m not even touching first gulf war.where saudis were soo confident that pakistan with rest of gcc will throw out saddam feom kuwait
well we chickened out again while mini countries like syria took home 20 billion for cooperation
egypt got most of debts removed
we were afraid of sadam and that A hole was biggest supporter of india.
truth is policy makers in pakistan r no friend of anyone but bread thieves
there vision stops with tiny objectives
no greater strategic planning wht so ever
now yemen one is biggest cos at first pakistan could have done it with soo much easy and mastry cos we already had experience in waziristan doing exactly same. houthis were new and weak.
we lost initiative and any respect
now its just plain begging

 

[space cadet]

and i m not even touching first gulf war.where saudis were soo confident that pakistan with rest of gcc will throw out saddam feom kuwait
well we chickened out again while mini countries like syria took home 20 billion for cooperation
egypt got most of debts removed

And the funny thing, I don't even think they really did anything, just showed up, and probably had to be supported

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

pakistanis usually chicken out it’s normal
after the korean war i think it was henry kasinger who said.
these A-holes never gave a single man to our cause and demand the maximum aid.
then we cry about americans not coming to our rescue in 71.
had we took part in korean war america would have turned the world upside down.
but here people only see one side of story
later when 9/11 happened mushi was jumping up and down with americans promising blood and flesh.
once iraq war came they chickened out again.
so wht happened americans took revenge by giving afghanistan to india
u can chek timelines there was no terrorizm in pakistan before that.
and i m not even touching first gulf war.where saudis were soo confident that pakistan with rest of gcc will throw out saddam feom kuwait
well we chickened out again while mini countries like syria took home 20 billion for cooperation
egypt got most of debts removed
we were afraid of sadam and that A hole was biggest supporter of india.
truth is policy makers in pakistan r no friend of anyone but bread thieves
there vision stops with tiny objectives
no greater strategic planning wht so ever
now yemen one is biggest cos at first pakistan could have done it with soo much easy and mastry cos we already had experience in waziristan doing exactly same. houthis were new and weak.
we lost initiative and any respect
now its just plain begging

Hello,

Agree to the first half, disagree with the later half. FATA was nothing like Yemen. The people fighting in Yemen are the ones that were born and raised in those dry mountains. They know their environment and surroundings like the back of their hand. Where as in FATA, when the operations started and the local people understood that the government has been sent to finaly free them. The only terrorists left on the ground were the foreign ones. The locals never supported them to begin with. It was a few politicians and their lackeys which supported them. The locals were suppressed and they had cried out for help but the government had ignored them.

Yemen is different, those people that are fighting are locals and they can easily persuade more local villagers etc to join them. Why you might ask, well what would you do if you were told that a foreign non-Arab army had invaded your homeland?

Also you can not ignore the facts that Pakistan is still dealing with its war against terrorism. Attacks continue to happen in balochistan and ex-FATA. When you dont have your own house in order how can you jump into another conflict? Did you not see the Persians treating BLA terrorists in their fancy hospitals? It's clear that Iran has no good intentions towards Pakistan. Sooner or later they will be public about it. It's best what Pakistan is doing now. Fortifying the border with them and beefing up their presence.

What would be logical is building more air bases and army bases in balochistan and 1 in ex-FATA to defend against any invasion or sabotage from Iran. Then think about helping out in foreign conflicts.

Also Pakistan did help out in the conflict, if I'm not wrong we provide intelligence and guidance. Which is more then enough.

Regards,

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

And the funny thing, I don't even think they really did anything, just showed up, and probably had to be supported

Pak army was the last to leave Kuwait. They helped clean up their country after everyone created a mess.