Indonesian Armed Forces

[vash]

I understand the military budget issue. It is why I believe more of your budget should be used on the navy and air force. 100+ Leopard 2 MBTs is a lot of money. According to the unit cost at wikipedia, it would be more than $600 million in total, not even counting all the spare parts, ammunition, etc. The money would be better spent on lets say 30 F-16 or F-15, or extra one or two submarines. Maybe even one destroyer.

Personally I think 30 or so fighter jets would serve you much better than 100+ MBTs. It would make a heck of difference between stop the enemies at sea/air or not.

 

[Kusumo]

The money would be better spent on lets say 30 F-16 or F-15, or extra one or two submarines. Maybe even one destroyer.

we still on track for the fighter jets since we're looking for our F-5 replacement. It's a tough negotiation with the russian for their Su-35. However there's a someone in our air force who whisper that we can even switch to the newest version F-16V so easily by the end of the day if the russian still stubborn. Who ever win in this competition. its a win win for me. Both fighter are beast in its class. and we already operating both of this class right now.

According to the unit cost at wikipedia, it would be more than $600 million in total, not even counting all the spare parts, ammunition, etc

Yes, Oh wait a minute.... 600 WHAT?? Dude, C'mon seriously. Where you got the info about this? can you cite your source is?
Because from all I know, even from various German web I got about this leopard 2 deal is only about 270 to 280 million USD for 103 Leopard 2 + 43 Marder + few supporting vehicles include ammunition all in one package. Just for information this Leopard and Marder are used one not the new one. Thats why its price was so cheap just 2.5 milion USD each tanks. And its come from overstok Bundeswher German Army.

Here's my source
http://www.dw.com/en/indonesia-tank-deal-raises-moral-questions/a-16357173
http://www.army-technology.com/news/newsindonesian-army-german-leopard-2a6-mbts-deal
http://www.janes.com/article/29983/rheinmetall-confirms-indonesian-leopard-2-contract
http://www.spiegel.de/international...port-german-tanks-sparks-debate-a-843812.html

Please dont trust so much on wiki, everyone can edit that sites.

perhaps @Bundeswehr can give us a better source of this matter

 

[Jaeger]

Indonesia ordered 103 Leopard 2s, of which 63 will be to Revolution standard, 40 Marder IFV, 4 Büffel ARVs, 3 Leguan Bridge Laying vehicles and 3 Kodiak AEVs. There was also a deal where Germany would give Indonesia production rights over undisclosed technology

 

[Jaeger]

Indonesian Kopaska

 

[vash]

we still on track for the fighter jets since we're looking for our F-5 replacement. It's a tough negotiation with the russian for their Su-35. However there's a someone in our air force who whisper that we can even switch to the newest version F-16V so easily by the end of the day if the russian still stubborn. Who ever win in this competition. its a win win for me. Both fighter are beast in its class. and we already operating both of this class right now.


Yes, Oh wait a minute.... 600 WHAT?? Dude, C'mon seriously. Where you got the info about this? can you cite your source is?
Because from all I know, even from various German web I got about this leopard 2 deal is only about 270 to 280 million USD for 103 Leopard 2 + 43 Marder + few supporting vehicles include ammunition all in one package. Just for information this Leopard and Marder are used one not the new one. Thats why its price was so cheap just 2.5 milion USD each tanks. And its come from overstok Bundeswher German Army.

Here's my source
http://www.dw.com/en/indonesia-tank-deal-raises-moral-questions/a-16357173
http://www.army-technology.com/news/newsindonesian-army-german-leopard-2a6-mbts-deal
http://www.janes.com/article/29983/rheinmetall-confirms-indonesian-leopard-2-contract
http://www.spiegel.de/international...port-german-tanks-sparks-debate-a-843812.html

Please dont trust so much on wiki, everyone can edit that sites.

perhaps @Bundeswehr can give us a better source of this matter

I hope it is not downgraded version of Leopard 2. I mean, most of the western MBTs are much more expensive than just 2.5 million USD each. That kind of price tag is more like cheaper Chinese MBTs. But anyway, maybe you got a large discount as a package deal.

If the $270~280 million price tag is correct, it is still about 15 generation 3+ fighter jets. For an island nation, air force and navy should be priority. Ground force is the last resort if you can't stop the enemies from landing on your home turf.

 

[Jaeger]

Indonesia ordered Leopard 2A4s which are common Leopard 2 models but also real cheap to acquire nowadays

 

[Kusumo]

Indonesian Su-30MK2 Arrives From Belarus After Overhaul

Indonesian Su-30MK2 arrives in Antonov AH-124-100 aircraft at Sultan Hasanuddin airbase

One Indonesian Su-30MK2 has arrived at the Sultan Hasanuddin airbase after undergoing overhaul in Belarus.

The aircraft was transported to Indonesian airbase Thursday by Antonov AH-124-100 aircraft, Jitunews web portal reported Friday.

Sukhoi comes complete with materials that are packed in tens coli / crate which will be assembled in Technical Squadron 044 Sultan Hasanuddin air base.

Sultan Hasanuddin air base commander, military Marsma Nana Santoso, accompanied by the Head of Operations and Technical Squadron 044 commander witnessed the admission process Sukhoi fighter aircraft in Base Ops Sultan Hasanuddin air base.

The arrival of fighter aircraft Sukhoi SU-30 MK2, tail number TS-3006 who have completed the treatment will add to the strength of Air Squadron 11 which is the home base fighter aircraft SU-27/30 MK2 in Lanud Sultan Hasanuddi.

Indonesia is trying to buy 18 new Su-35 fighter aircraft. “It is just for the purpose of technology sustainability as we have had SU-27, SU-30 and now we will have SU-35,” Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu said earlier this month that the planned purchase of Sukhoi SU-35 was part of the efforts to stay technologically upgraded as Indonesia had bought earlier models in the past.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/16176/Indonesian_Su_30MK2_Arrives_From_Belarus_After_Overhaul#.V11Tm1dxvzJ

 

[Kusumo]

Full Armed Su-30MK2

 

[Kusumo]

Indonesian Navy Spec.Ops Kopaska

Indonesian Army Kostrad Raider Battalion

 

[Kusumo]

 

[Kusumo]

Yogjakarta Air Show 2016
Everybody love Air Show

Super Tuc's

Flight Checks

 

[Kusumo]

Play together every year..
Vipers vs Flankers Dogfight

credit: @ijallubis

 

[Kusumo]

Indonesian Air Force special forces showcase new light tactical vehicle

Members of the Bravo Detachment 90 (Indonesian special force) showcase their skills and showcase new light tactical vehicle 4×4. The successful completion of any mission requires a vehicle that is battle-tested and proven to maximize maneuverability and enhance crew safety. The new light tactical vehicle has the versatility to fulfill the needs of all types of special forces tactical operations, providing the performance, durability and mobility to ensure the success of missions.

The Bravo Detachment 90 is a Special Operations unit whose personnel are specialists recruited and chosen from the Indonesian Air Force special forces which is the Paskhas. It is the youngest special operations unit of the Indonesian Air Force. The unit specialises in the paralysing of the enemy’s heavy equipment.

The unit specialise in hostage rescue involving hijacked aircraft.

http://defence-blog.com/army/indone...rces-showcase-new-light-tactical-vehicle.html

 

[Kusumo]

Reviewing Indonesia’s new defense white paper

Jakarta | Thu, June 16 2016| 07:37 am

The Indonesian government recently published a new defense white paper. As a general practice, it is an instrument of defense diplomacy for confidence building and conflict prevention among countries. The strategic document is an important reference for the regional defense policy community to understand the future direction of a country’s defense policy and military development.

In that sense, the new white paper highlights four key issues of Indonesia’s defense policymaking. First, given the growing importance of peace and stability at sea, it incorporates the notion of the country being a “global maritime fulcrum” (GMF) in defense planning. One interpretation of the strategic concept suggests that the GMF represents a national aspiration to redefine the country’s geopolitical role as both a “gateway” and a “gatekeeper” of the increasingly interconnected Indian and Pacific oceans.

While rebuilding its maritime culture and archipelagic connectivity, repositioning Indonesia’s strategic role ultimately entails the development of maritime defense with a focus on “green-water navy” capabilities.

Specifically, the new white paper puts an emphasis on improving the military’s maritime surveillance system through the acquisitions of sophisticated defense technologies such as over-the-horizon radar, unmanned naval platforms and satellite communications. The idea is to uphold national sovereignty and ensure navigational security on Indonesian seas and beyond.

Second, the 2016 white paper reflects Indonesia’s changing threat environment. Recent regional developments have showed the complex nexus of traditional and non-traditional security issues. While maritime boundaries are highly contested, issues such as illegal fishing, maritime piracy and shipping route vulnerabilities have overlapped with the growing demand for marine resources and energy. The latest collision between the Indonesian and Chinese coast guards within the waters of the Natuna Islands further demonstrates that a non-traditional security issue could put bilateral relationships and regional stability at great risk.

In that reflection, Indonesian military officers have mulled over the danger of “hybrid” threats or “proxy” wars to national security. However, the latest white paper offers little insight concerning the country’s defense strategy to anticipate a future scenario of hybrid warfare, involving combined operations of regular military forces and irregular forces such as militia and paramilitary units against external intrusions. Instead, defense policymakers incorporate a voluntary bela negara (defending the state) program aimed at nurturing nationalism and patriotism within the Indonesian population.

Third, despite a long list of threats, the newly published defense white paper assures the international community about Indonesia’s commitment to peace and stability. On the use of force, the current administration in Jakarta maintains an “active defense” strategy to deal with conventional military threats. Under the existing doctrine, it avoids initiating war or using military forces against other countries, but resolutely undertakes offensive self-defense operations to defeat any external aggression.

Nevertheless, changes in military doctrines, enduring regional suspicions and the growing supply-side of the global arms trade have spurred a rapid pace of regional defense modernization. According to the latest Military Balance, defense spending in Asia rose from US$322 billion in 2014 to $340 billion in 2015. Despite the worrying trends, the Indonesian government remains reluctant to undertake a robust military build-up. Instead, it relies on diplomacy as the country’s first line of defense.

Fourth, the 2016 defense white paper promotes “maritime diplomacy” to prevent future conflict at sea. The acquisition of new military technologies, such as “anti-access/area denial” capabilities and anti-ballistic missile defense systems, have the potential to alter the balance of military power in East Asia.

Moreover, recent tensions and unresolved disputes over the South China Sea have increasingly posed a significant challenge to maritime security and regional stability. If these destabilizing factors go unchecked, they could raise the risk of miscalculation and deterrence failure making regional conflict unnecessarily likely.

Despite all the regional complexities, the Indonesian government still views a non-confrontational approach as the most acceptable strategy to preserve international security. With a belief that none of the region’s countries could address evolving security problems alone, it forges cooperative relations among defense establishments in the region.

Hence, over the past decades, defense policymakers have built an extensive network of defense and military ties with many strategic partners, including China and the US.

In that context, Indonesia’s defense diplomacy serves two strategic agendas. On one level, it engages in ASEAN-centered multilateral mechanisms to help institutionalize the regional norms of behavior such as confidence building, cooperative security and peaceful conflict resolution.

The idea is to build amicable defense relationships with regional powers, while enmeshing their interactions into a norms-based security order. On another level, Indonesia relies on bilateral defense cooperation to support its military modernization with a focus on bolstering indigenous strategic industries.

This way, Indonesia’s defense diplomacy is instrumental for mitigating the risks of regional tensions and simultaneously maintaining its defensive ability against evolving challenges in the Indo-Pacific region.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/06/16/reviewing-indonesia-s-new-defense-white-paper.html

 

[UAE]

Saudi Arabia and Indonesia have inked defence cooperation on arms manufacturing and aviation related platforms, any progress made so far?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/01/24/saudi-arabia-ri-ink-defense-cooperation-agreement.html