Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[Khafee]

sohio k ho gya ha, jabse pappi ki ha ap k hosh he urry hue hain. Mastan Khan was asking so i replied.........Pehle b ban kar dia tha Hug me Sophia waly threat sy!

Im im still with Pres. Erdogan!

Some people need crutches like Erdogan, for them Khulfa e Rashdieen are not enough. Very Sad!

Depth is a concept alien to them. Staying shallow makes them happy.

 

[Zulu]

And for them using Islam as crutches always easy to exploit other people emotions and hiding their incompetence

Some people need crutches like Erdogan, for them Khulfa e Rashdieen are not enough. Very Sad!

Depth is a concept alien to them. Staying shallow makes them happy.

 

[Blackbirdz!]

Some people need crutches like Erdogan, for them Khulfa e Rashdieen are not enough. Very Sad!

Depth is a concept alien to them. Staying shallow makes them happy.

you got to agree, ye b koi naam ha kya Hagia Sofia which sounds like ''hug me Sophia''

Atleast Usmania Masjid is a good name for it!

 

[Khafee]

And for them using Islam as crutches always easy to exploit other people emotions and hiding their incompetence

you got to agree, ye b koi naam ha kya Hagia Sofia which sounds like ''hug me Sophia''

Atleast Usmania Masjid is a good name for it!

Masjid to banadi, but state run brothels are still open. Google "genel evler" aka general houses

Sorry for off topic post. This is the last one on this topic. Any more comments in the relevant thread pls.

 

[Blackbirdz!]

@Khafee yera are you sure that F16s r coming any longer? Read this, specially the last paragraph.

 

[Khafee]

@Khafee yera are you sure that F16s r coming any longer? Read this, specially the last paragraph.

YES! IA

 

[Blackbirdz!]

YES! IA

yera i dont doubt you or yr info, but the way things have turned b/w US and China along with our reactivation of CPEC things may really have changed now with US higher circles!

Even this ace guy has hinted about it too, i would highly request to recheck their ''delivery'' status to Pakistan in terms of chances under this new changing scenario! I mean im sure they r building them but what would be the point if they at the 11th hour come up with an excuse/ or condition to of again deactivating CPEC so US delivers them?

We already have example of AH1Zs

 

[Safri167]

if they at the 11th hour come up with an excuse/ or condition to of again deactivating CPEC so US delivers them?

ab yeh to kis kitab m ni likha
i think you missed it, paf pilots are in US

 

[Mastankhan]

All I meant what Blackbirdz has been saying here as well that the main reason of rejecting Rafale that time was the sheer price not its capability which you were trying to portray or atleast I got the perception from your posts. We all know that if US offers us F35 today, PAF will most probably reject the plane not because of its quality but because of its price.

Hi,

It is not the the price---but it is for 'treason against the state that the Paf has failed to get the right aircraft in a timely manner"---.

If the mother of the current chief or the mother of ex chief Qamar Suleiman or any other chiefs was dying of cancer and no medication was available---they would turn the tables upside down to find one.

That Yehudan Golda Meir did not care for price to help sustain her nation and make it something---basing her philosophy of what she learnt about Prophet Mohammad---and here these great warriors of islam are bit-ching and moaning about no funds for the last 50 years.

 

[Mastankhan]

yes, the exact words were; ''its too complicated to be produced in Pakistan'' as it was offered as license build Pakistan specific variant for Pakistan to be produced in Pakistan!

It was a decision took by Mushaf Ali Mir and Shahid Latif as they were interested in JF17 itself! But what happened was that through testing of these both Gripen and Rafale(whose current AESA radar was personally tested by Shahid Latif back in 2006); Shahid Latif n Co. got a better idea of how to develop JF17 Blocks in future, The Network Centric Warfare capabilities were the major selling point in the eyes of PAF bak in 2002 of Gripen, ie its advanced Data Link capability etc Where one aircraft can turn the radar on in a formation to locate the enemy jets and pass on info to its buddy a/c etc, this was one of the things its Link 16 could do which made them successfully engage an enemy formation which was considerably bigger in size and number of jets. You remember in PDF many senior members saying that Gripen fits perfectly like hand in glove in our doctrine? This was one of the main reasons why...........then add its short takeoff and landing abilities it just adds to the advantage. The network centric capabilities of Link17 installed on Block 1-2 are a testimony of that today!

This as well as Rafale's ECM/EW(SPECTRA) was picked up along with its low flying passive stealth capabilities for JF 17 project(now u will see this in Block 3) Another thing that i didn't told u yet is that the KLJ7AV2 radar selected for Block 3 is today same in capabilities as of that radar on indian Rafale!(reason; that detailed check by Shahid Latif n Co in 2006) The real reason why PAF made Chinese build V2 version of that Standard KLJ7A offered to us was that........... That KLJ7AV2 was shown in the last IDEAS expo 2018 in Karachi by Chinese.

But where the Block 3 is still low compared to that Rafale M of india is at maneuverability, and thats the reason a new holographic display has been developed by PAF along with a Wide Angle HUD from J20 is being imported for Block 3 just to tackle that........

Now if Rafale comes even for a Split second into the range of it be in that huge HUD or not it will be shot down thanks to the HOBS missile like PL10E and the J20's HMD/S installed on JF17 series today.

Today, entire fleet of these aircrafts Block 1 and 2 r being updated as ''MLU'' or what PAF calls overhaul of older JF17As........While JF17B is ALREADY flying with KLJ7AV2 with PL15, PL10E along with a super new ECM/EW package and yes it also has that wide angle holographic display.

So now you get it?

But PAF was still interested in it as bak as in 2015, sweden rejected it for political reasons!

Links;

JF17A overhaul;

Block 3's radar;

JF17B;

PL15 being tested on JF17A Block 1/2; pause the video @ 4:38


Thats that ECM pod which jammed the hell out of M2K's RDY series radar, wonder how PAF manage to do that if they have never tested these radars in detail? You it seems didnt watch those Shahid Latif interviews with Abid Andleeb, where he had clearly mentioned how he got hold of Rafale's radar.......

ACE of PAF

First clear photo of Thunder with KG600/700 series ECM pod, responsible for blinding Indian Air Defense radars on 27th FEB 2019.

www.youtube.com

Hi,

Do I get it---? Youngman---I have been teaching you kids that same thing for the last 16 years on these forums.

The issue here and as always is not the current ability or the future ability---it was always the ability in a timely manner that would have made the difference---.

That is where the Paf had and has failed pakistan---.

If they would have bought a 100 F16's after joining the US on WOT and froced the US to sell it to them---we would have had peace with india a longtime ago---and we would have been on a totally different path of welfbeing---.

My old posts from over a decade and 1/2 ago are filled up with the information about how Paf used the gripen and Rafakle information to build their own machine---.

The statement made about Gripen tech being too much was a LIE---just an excuse not to embarrass the swedes after the Paf had stolen their layout and working environment / design.

The Paf was so engrossed in their minds about building their own weapon---they failed totally in comprehending the larger picture---.

A 100 F16's in 2003-04-05 would have made india signed peace deal that they were ready to sign.

Today---we are sitting on the edge for a total destruction---.

 

[Thorough Pro]

When? Timing is important.

YES! IA

 

[Armchair]

Hmm... could it be that the original F-16 purchase clearance did have 18 optional F-16s... are these being exercised? Would not need another approval from Congress. Trump would be happy as US workers gets to build something, and they can throw in a few EDAs with it.

 

[Zarvan]

@Khafee yera are you sure that F16s r coming any longer? Read this, specially the last paragraph.

Ignore them they are not that big on right information about Air Force. Not just F 16 wait the moment the claim of J 15 and J 10 P being procured by Pakistan becomes a reality soon you will hear USA not only will sell you F 16 BLOCK 72 but they would almost start trying to force you to buy F 15 EX from them also.

@Khafee

 

[Khafee]

Ignore them they are not that big on right information about Air Force. Not just F 16 wait the moment the claim of J 15 and J 10 P being procured by Pakistan becomes a reality soon you will hear USA not only will sell you F 16 BLOCK 72 but they would almost start trying to force you to buy F 15 EX from them also.

@Khafee

CIA + NSA+ DIA etc = Thier budget is greater than the GDP of Pakistan. And all of them are effin clueless about Chinese Procurements. You feeling alright?

Blk70/72 are coming IA, and deliveries will start, hopefully in the next 4 weeks.

 

[Zarvan]

CIA + NSA+ DIA etc = Thier budget is greater than the GDP of Pakistan. And all of them are effin clueless about Chinese Procurements. You felling alright?

Blk70/72 are coming IA, and deliveries will start, hopefully in the next 4 weeks.

Great point and when we signed the deal for Block 72 ???? I am pretty sure USA can't hide the deal the way China can due to being a democracy