Pakistan Gets F16 -Blk70/72

[Signalian]

It is already present in the Blk62

Its the ASQ-32 IFTS that gathers my interest. Lacking provisions for Black shaheen SOW, the AGM-84 ER can be used, although its basically an Anti-Ship missile.

 

[Khafee]

Its the ASQ-32 IFTS that gathers my interest. Lacking provisions for Black shaheen SOW, the AGM-84 ER can be used, although its basically an Anti-Ship missile.

You do know that MICA can be used on the Blk 60/62's ?

 

[Signalian]

And what could that be?

You showed a pic of J-XX, @HRK mentioned its J-15....now my post was speculating PAF's interest in an aircraft having carrier borne fighter DNA.

 

[TomCat]

The SU-33 has 2 extra pylons for weapons, however it is 4000kg(maybe pounds?) heavier. It has a significantly lower Thrust to Weight ratio of .84 compared to 1.06 for the SU-27.
The SU-27 and SU-33 share the same fuel capacity, however the SU-33 has forward Canards that will increase it's drag and reducing it's range somewhat. The SU-33 is equipped with a refueling probe, where the SU-27 is not equipped.
The SU-33 has similarly shaped wings, however the increase in flap and control surface size increased the total wing area by up to 12%.
The SU-33 is a great low speed turn fighter due to it's increased control surface size and forward canards, but is going to bleed energy much more quickly at high speeds compared to a SU-27.

 

[Signalian]

You do know that MICA can be used on the Blk 60/62's ?

Yes i do - Aim-9x, Mica, Aim120. Catchy loadout on F-16's wings

 

[Khafee]

You showed a pic of J-XX, @HRK mentioned its J-15....now my post was speculating PAF's interest in an aircraft having carrier borne fighter DNA.

Sounds about right

 

[Khafee]

Yes i do - Aim-9x, Mica, Aim120. Catchy loadout on F-16's wings

Aim-120 C7 for now

 

[AliYusuf]

Sounds about right

So why is PAF going for a carrier borne fighter when it is going to use it from land? Also with J-16 present why then go at all for a land based version of a carrier borne fighter?

 

[Khafee]

So why is PAF going for a carrier borne fighter when it is going to use it from land? Also with J-16 present why then go at all for a land based version of a carrier borne fighter?

You are a smart guy, you tell me.

 

[TomCat]

You are a smart guy, you tell me.

It intends to use Chinese Carriers in future for carrier-borne ops? As Gwadar needs high naval attention i guess?

 

[AliYusuf]

You are a smart guy, you tell me.

Are we getting an aircraft carrier too?

On Serious note, I think anti ship capabilities are being considered to protect Gwadar and Pakistani shipping lines.

 

[TomCat]

Are we getting an aircraft carrier too?

China will retire its carrier by 2028

 

[Signalian]

The SU-33 has 2 extra pylons for weapons, however it is 4000kg(maybe pounds?) heavier. It has a significantly lower Thrust to Weight ratio of .84 compared to 1.06 for the SU-27.
The SU-27 and SU-33 share the same fuel capacity, however the SU-33 has forward Canards that will increase it's drag and reducing it's range somewhat. The SU-33 is equipped with a refueling probe, where the SU-27 is not equipped.
The SU-33 has similarly shaped wings, however the increase in flap and control surface size increased the total wing area by up to 12%.
The SU-33 is a great low speed turn fighter due to it's increased control surface size and forward canards, but is going to bleed energy much more quickly at high speeds compared to a SU-27.

To see how would J-15 differentiate from SU-33.
Reportedly J-15 uses a higher proportion of composite materials than the Su-33 to save weight. J-15 is considered multirole while SU-33 was envisioned as air superiority aircraft. SU-33 has MAWS ? J-15 has MAWS. Buddy refueling is enabled in J-15. These Surface strike missiles; the Supersonic (Mach 3) YJ-91 and the subsonic with longer range YJ-83K (range 125 miles), could bring in new innovations for PAF and PN.

In EW domain, If J-15D comes close to EA-18G, that holds a major advantage for SEAD/DEAD/Jamming platform for PAF.

 

[TomCat]

Are we getting an aircraft carrier too?

On Serious note, I think anti ship capabilities are being considered to protect Gwadar and Pakistani shipping lines.

That has got nothing to do with that bhai. If that was the case, nothing would've been better than J-16

 

[TomCat]

Are we getting an aircraft carrier too?

On Serious note, I think anti ship capabilities are being considered to protect Gwadar and Pakistani shipping lines.

To see how would J-15 differentiate from SU-33.
Reportedly J-15 uses a higher proportion of composite materials than the Su-33 to save weight. J-15 is considered multirole while SU-33 was envisioned as air superiority aircraft. SU-33 has MAWS ? J-15 has MAWS. Buddy refueling is enables in J-15. These Surface strike missiles; the Supersonic (Mach 3) YJ-91 and the subsonic with longer range YJ-83K (range 125 miles), could bring in new innovations for PAF and PN.

In EW domain, If J-15D comes close to EA-18G, that hold a major advantage for SEAD/DEAD/Jamming platform for PAF.

This means that, in order to compensate for lack of naval wing and naval strength compared to huge enemy at the very moment, J-15 would serve a very important role for naval offensives against the adversary ships.